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| Name: | rob |
| E-mail address: | throw |
| Comments: | hi jane. thanks for your comments, questions and interest in throw.
The comments on the Throw bio are made to differentiate Throw music from Jeremy's later projects. It's probably doesn't make a lot of difference to the NZ Idol generation who think that the guy in front of the microphone is a one man band but it does to Steve and myself who had spent a long time developing a sound over the previous 7 years of working together and continued that in Throw with Jeremy's own contributions to that sound. Jeremy later incorporated some of those elements into Cinematic, or perhaps it was just that steve later joined the band and had an effect. You may remember that steve wasn't the original drummer for cinematic and didn't join until later. You'll have to ask Steve directly what his exact reasons for working with Jeremy again were. I'll hazard a guess that he enjoys playing and contributing to well crafted pop music although I note his contributions to Cinematic are uncredited in songwriting and thus apra royalties form use of the works, a point that is not lost on steve. One of his original reasons for dropping out of Throw (steve quite the band as permanent drummer opting to do only home town shows) was because jeremy wanted to cut him out of the song writing pie. This was later remedied with a three way split, but jeremy still resents this and is I assume his main reason for animosity toward me as I insisted on the deal. In throw the sonic rock stuff is mine and steves, the wistful stuff is more Jeremy. I note that Jeremy doesn't credit Steve or any of his other band mates with any contribution to the songwriting of the Cinematic material, thus Steve and the boys earns no apra royalties from their input as well as making it look like a one man show. Maybe the real question is if Jeremy is, as you imply such a one man show why did he need steve? You use the term enfant terrible and that probably describes Jeremy at the time. He was young (19 -20?) and Throw was his first taste of popularity. If we'd existed in london and he had be a mop top waif then the antsy star thing might have worked better. Steve and Myself had already been popular in Dolphin so it wasn't a big thing for us but in a sense at the time it went to Jeremy's head and made the whole situation unpleasant. I really liked the music we made in throw, and cinematic do some pretty sweet numbers too, although my favourites are the ones with steve playing a lead role. He's a fucking great drummer you know, but on top of that he's an important contribution to the music and a bouncing board for ideas and taste which definitely helps shape the sounds and songs of the bands he plays in. My Throw bio gives credit to that for him and myself, and I hope gives people an insight into the way we made music. Fans and friends of Jeremy may read it differently, but if you see a difference in the music of Throw and post stuff then this is why. if not, then ... that's cool too. There is no denying Jeremy's abilities, he was an important factor in the Throw sound, as was Steve and myself. He has a sweet voice, and a great melodic sense, good taste in music mostly, a juke box memory for every song ever written and the gift of the gab. I'm not trying to detract from that, but try an imagine the Cinematic tracks "aqua baby", or "already gone" without steve's contribution or whatever the other boys put into the tracks. Its worth noting the song "nowhere near" was an adaptation of a dolphin song "turn around" from the "out of hand" album, which Jeremy later plagiarized with the song "care" for the first cinematic album. Jeremy credited himself solely as the songwriter on this track as he wanted to do on the Throw material. All I'm saying is it's not quite that simplistic. I hope that helps explain and I hope this doesn't detract you from your enjoyment of the music. bands are stupid bitchy things but then some of the best music comes from these relationships. cheers Rob |
| Name: | Jane |
| E-mail address: | jane@balmoralhomes.co.nz |
| Comments: | I read with interest what you have to say about Throw Rob. It seems interesting to me that if Jeremy Taylor was such an enfant terrible and left to puruse his 'solo' career by starting the band Cinematic (who appear to have done remarkably well without your influence...), why did Steve Birss, the other member of your 3-man band, go with him? |