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| Name: | rerun |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | How the Shirley Temple spanking from "Wee Willie Winkie" was originally reported
(The spanking scene does not exist in the versions we see today. It is unknown if the footage still exists, only a photograph has been found. This story ran in several newspapers.)
Uniontown, PA News Standard Friday March 26, 1937 Page Nineteen "Give Little Girl A Big Hand," Says Director; And Shirley Temple, The Starlet, Is Spanked! Strong Men Wince As She Cries Out In Pain--"Ouch, Ouch!" By Paul Harrison NEA Service Staff Correspondent HOLLYWOOD, March 26—-Strong men stood tense, hands clenched, mouths grim. Women twisted their handkerchiefs, nervously patted at their lips, watched in awed fascination. Actress June Lang, her face a mask of almost desperate, resolution, raised an arm, brought it down smartly, palm first. Whack! "Ouch!" yelped Shirley Temple. The Wonder Tot was being spanked. It was an epochal moment in the history of the cinema. A block away, in his slick sanctum, Darryl Zanuck may have been pacing in a torment of apprehension. But no telephone tinkled on Stage 12. There was no reprieve. Smack! It was a sound such as will be heard around the world. Probably it will shake the very foundations of celluloid idoltary. Thwack! What will the millions of mothers say? Whack! What will the millions of children think? Twelve times the hand of Miss Lang rose, hesitated in a split-instant of reluctance, then descended on the sturdy little derriere of the Movies' Marvel Moppet. "Cut!" commanded Director John Ford. The camera stopped. The onlookers breathed again. Miss Temple wriggled off the elder actress' lap and giggled. * * * A Crisis for June "June, dear," admonished Mr. Ford, in sarcastically patient tones, "what were you doing—-dusting her off? Your wrist was as limp as though you were waving goodbye to someone. Now let's try it again—-and spank as though you meant it." It was a terrible experience for Miss Lang. Why, Astrid Allwyn, in "Dimples," had jeopardized her career merely by calling the Charm Child a brat and threatening to box her ears. And Sara Baden, in "Captain January," resigned himself to the loss of most of her fans before she dared to give the Magnificent Mite a shaking. So you can imagine how Miss Lang felt, haying to spank, and spank hard, the No. 1 Box-Office Star of the World. It was, indeed, a rather difficult decision for everybody. When Big Boss Zanuck saw the rushes of "Wee Willie Winkle," he pondered over a which an intractable Miss Temple, having fallen in a mud-puddle and trampled a petunia bed, was merely reprimanded by her screen mother, Miss Long. "Doesn't ring true. Do something about it," said Zanuck. "Do something about it," echoed a Zanuck assistant. "Do something about it," ordered Producer Gene Markey. "Gotta do something about it," mourned Director Ford. "I know what I'd do about it," volunteered Shirley Temple's mother. "I'd turn the child over my knee and give her a good spanking." * * * Spank Her! So they put it up to Zanuck. He said, "Okay, spank her." "Spank her." echoed his assistant. "Spank her," said Markey to Ford. "Spank her," said Ford to June Lang. So June spanked her. It was agreed that there should be 12 smacks, with the Super Mite counting them aloud, thus: "...six, seven-—ouch!—-nine—-ouch!-—ten, eleven, twelve." Of course there were no rehearsals. It was assumed that Miss Lang knew how to administer a spanking, and certainly Miss Temple knew how to receive one. She has had her share of them. Mrs. Temple makes no secret of the fact that Shirley, "just an ordinary little girl after all," has required some physical discipline now and then. After Miss Lang's unenthusiastic performance on the first take, Mama Temple, who had been watching without a twinge of misgivings, said to the elder actress: "Go ahead and smack her. She's strong and healthy." * * * "Or Scarcely" Just before the camera was ready to grind again. Director Ford stepped into the scene where Shirley already was sprawled across the lap of Miss Lang. Over them hovered a microphone. He gave Shirley a single, brisk spank. "Okay sound?" he asked the technician at the control board. "Okay," said the sound man. "Roll 'em." ordered Ford. "And June, dear, remember that you're trying to punish the child." The camera rolled and Miss Lang began to spank. She was a little more used to it now, and fortified by the reassurances of Main a Temple. The Lang wrist was not limp this time. She really laid it on. As she counted the blows, Miss Temple added a couple of heartfelt ouches. "Cut!" said Ford. "That's swell." The Super Starlet giggled again. Then she went to Miss Lang, who was limp. "Don't feel bad." pleaded Shirley. "It didn't hurt at all. Or scarcely." Surely that can't be Shirley, in that undignified position across Actress June Lang's knee. But it is--and filmland's Marvel Moppet is BEING SPANKED! Imagine, applying the disciplinary palm to the No. 1 Box-Office Star of the World. But don't be alarmed; it's only a scene from Shirley's latest picture, in which she gets her come-uppanance for falling into a mud-puddle, and trampling a petunia bed. |
| Name: | Qlql |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | TEN YEARS!!! Congratulations, Handprince! Keep going! |
| Name: | vb |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | 10 years! Wow... World has changed a lot all those years. Good luck for next 10! |
| Name: | hardhand12000 |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Thank for all the work HP. Congrats on 10 years!
PS- Lee Warner is the best! |
| Name: | Carlos Marino |
| E-mail address: | sucarlos91@hotmail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Congrats by 10 years. I,ve been viseted this wonderful site since 1999. Good luck at next 10 years. |
| Name: | LOU Nesko |
| E-mail address: | Tazgirls69 |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Love it |
| Name: | LOU Nesko |
| E-mail address: | Tazgirls69 |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Love 2 hear from spanking fans especially Doms |
| Name: | Mr. T |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | 10 Years?? Congratulations Handprince! After a few years of me just tripping up on a few pictures or pieces of news, I found my way to this fantastic page, with hundreds of pics, stories and videos! You can imagine how I felt and how less sleep I got in those days. Therefore: Thank you for all your work, thank you for feeding our fetish and thank you for my sleepless nights on your page. I look forward to the next 10 years. |
| Name: | D |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | thanks for the link to paul Summers website.
I came across a book called "spite Fences". Good story so far and it has some spanking references/descriptions in it. One of the more intersting lines (from the main Character maggie): Momma gave complements like she gave spankigns, with the back of ehr hand. Maggie's Mom isn't the nicest person in the world howwever. Maggie relates one instance when she was spanked for drinking form the wrong water fountain (this was during segregation). A more burtal incident occured when maggie's little sister ahd ehr doll destroyed by a mean neighbour. Maggie's Mom beat her with a rose bush branch on teh hands/face and upper arms. D |
| Name: | Robbie |
| E-mail address: | robbie6447@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | ,I truly love this sight ever since I came upon it awhile back looking for spanking material and return to it from time to time comforted that my proclivities are not that unique. I've been excited about spanking for as long as I can recall (heard that before?) and although I feared the realization of a spanking and never courted one I was always stimulated by the meer mention of one and never missed an oppertunity to witness any (which were numerous in my life until I left home as a young adult). We lost our birth mother when my twin and I were five and my older sister was eight/nine and dad remarried within the year. Our lives experienced a culture shock from the first time we met Victoria. We were reared up to that time in a fairly permissive atmosphere dad being a mush and mom frail and weak and loving, we did pretty much what we wanted with minor constraints. The first inkling that life was about to change was when she and dad were dating for awhile and planned a night out She brought her daughter Beth(7) and had her younger sister (Aunt Patricia) stay over and sit for us. Dad gave his usual and benign admonishment "To be good and don't give Patricia any trouble". It was then Victoria established herslf in our lives and set the tone for the rest of our lives by establishing the ground rules. With a hand on a hip pose she said for our benefit, "You let me know who gives you any trouble and I'll see to it she or he will be a very, very sorry little girl or boy". "Bedtime is eight o'clock". Lainsy,my older sister protested to dad who said, "OK 9:00 but no later". Our future mother just glared at dad and Lorraine and said' "Fine, but you'll be in your pajamas by eight"! "No discussion, Let's go". Lainsey went on a tirade, saying outloud what we three felt. She wasn't our mother and how is she gonna make us sorry and... Patricia calmed Lainsy down by telling us how much Victoria cares for us and talks about us from the first time she met us and hopes we will be close in the future,like she knew something we didn't. She also said that that she and all her sisters were raised very strictly and as Beth can tell you that's how Victoria is very old fashioned and if she tells you to do something you better do it. She joked with us a little but said something that set me off even at that age. "After supper I want everybody in there PJs". "But it's not 8:00" I sort of whined. Do you want me to get the paddle and put you across my knee AND report to Victoria you didn't listen to me"? "You won't sit comfortably for a week, she said sort of jokingly. I gulped and had a feeling I couldn't explain. "No" I weakly said. "Good we're all on the same page", I remember her saying. Patricia actually let Lorraine stay up and keep her company but the younger one were sent up at eight with no argument. I tip toed into Linda's (my twin) room where Beth was and started asking questions if she was spanked and if it hurt alot. She said her mother was strict and she had lots of rules to follow but she wasn't mean and only got punished when she was bad and didnt't listen. I asked her how she was spanked and she told us she usually gets it on her panties but if she was very bad or did the same thing again she got it "panties down". I wanted to ask a whloe lot more but aunt Patty came up and asked what I was doing in the girl's room when Beth said I just wanted to know about mommy's spanking. Our future aunt said,"If your're not asleep in ten minutes I wouldn't need anybody to tell me about spanking we would all be gettinng a big one". She took my hand and placed me back in bed with a final warning not to get out again. In the morning we got up to Patricia making breakfast and telling us to be very quiet as Victoria and dad came in very late. It was Saturday and there was morning TV. Lorraine said she wanted to visit her friend but Patricia said wait for dad to get up she thinks he might have something to tell us. Lainsey sulked as usual and we the younger ones were told to keep it down a few times. It was after 11:00 when dad and Victoria came out of the master bedroom. Dad gathered us together and said , "I have something terrific to tell you, I asked Vickie to marry me and she said yes,but only if I can be a real mother to Lorraine, Robert and Linda and I'll be a real father to Beth". We'll be a family again,a bigger and better one. Victoria then spoke and expressed her love for Stanley and all of us as her wedding gift.We were stunned and non plus but it was bound to happen anyway and we were kids. Victoria moved in that week a few things at a time in advance of the wedding. She stated setting up the kitchen and hung up a message board on a entry wall. While we were there (the children), she took out of a box of supplies a paddle with hole drilled in a pattern and was about to hang it from the board when she patted her palm with it and said, "Make no mistake from this time forth,I'm the one in charge if I have to repeat myself I'll give you something to think about the next time you have a problem listening Beth knows already what I expect". "Lets hope it just hangs there as a reminder". My knees buckled I was hooked. Frieghtened and facinated at the same time. Lainsey was the first of us to find out first hand what mother was all about. She failed to come home after school,didn't call and missed supper in the bargain. To compound her crimes when our mother to be was questioning and berrating her she was giving her attitude. The next words out of our future moms mouth was,"This is long overdue"! She grabbed lainsey by an arm turned her around and smacked the paddle hard several times,the dragged her to the master bed room slammed the door and all hell broke loose. It sounded like gun shots and my big sister was screaming from the begining. Making promises of best behavior and begging fo it to stop. When she was led out of the room she was a sobbing snot dripping wreck. She was without her school skirt just in white panties and a blouse. She was mad to face the wall in the den where from the back her panties appeared pink and her upper legs were a bright red. She was told to sand at attention stop rubbing her bottom and think about what just happened. When dad came home he was told what she did Lainsey cried to him that she had no right doing this but dad said victoria was in charge. I stayed free from mother's ire until after the wedding when Linda and I during a an imposition form of grounding she called in sight where she has to have an eye on you at all times. So if she has to go shopping so do you. If your told to stay put you had best do just that. I had wandered away and didn't respond to her calls. When she finally got a hold of me she pronounce sentence. I was going to learn to listen or else. When we got home I was told to face the wall while she decided what she was going to do with me. After a short time she pulled out a chair made me stand in front of her she unbuckled my pants pulled down my underpants put me across her lap and spanked me until I was an incoherent sobbing sorry little boy and that was just with her hand. I'd never want to experience the paddle. I was made to face the wall again with my bare red bottom on display sincerely promising never to disobey her again. We were subject to mother's punishments until we were on our own. They were humiliating planned to be embarrassing and as we got older and not neccessarily wiser it was adjusted accordingly. Lorraine was last spanked by mom for a freespeech protest and sit-in. Mother's creative response was she was made to sit on a blistered bottom in cotton panties and a tee shirt with a bar of soap in her mouth. I think the panties had Bengay on the seat. She was a sophomore in college. She was even punished in he senior year when she argued with mom about spring break but wasn't spanked. She was just made to be in bed by 8:00 for the entire vacation. I was last spanked by her for sneaking off to a party after being specifically told I was not to leave the house. She caught me sneakin back in. I was told to get ready for bed that she would talk to me in the morning. She changed her mind and dragged me by the hair to the pool house. I go the belt paddle and was even made to go acrooss her lap for a question and answer period I was 16 at the time and had to cut gym class for two weeks the marks were so sore. I never disobeyed her again all it took was a reminder that we would have another 'talk'.
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| Name: | Robbie |
| E-mail address: | robbie6447@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Collegeboy's work really hits home for me. His scenarios and situations he depicts are both memory initiating and comforting not to mention somewhat erotically stimulating. Why(?),I don't Know,I'm wired that way. We were (my sisters and me)raised in a matersupremic enviorment where the 'If'word was used a lot and mother's rules were not to be questioned. His depiction of older 'children' still subject to 'oldfashioned' remedies was not a foreign concept or practice in our home. "As long as you live under my roof" was a mantra. The embarrassment and humiliation she caused us whether out of a sense of justice or an outgrowth of her obcession with control was just another suitcase of baggage all of us carry, and I use as another tool of stimulation. Some of Cb's illustrations are analogous to experiences in my life. For example he shows in one of his drawings an older boy being led up the stairs by his mother to be punished. This is close to an episode in my life that left me scarified in more than one way. His depiction of young adults that are still spanked may be a rarity as it was the ultimate weapon in mother's arsenal of punishments she employed it was not out of the realm of my experience. My Aunt Patricia, Mother's younger sister was still subject to her parents control that included spankings and groundings as punishment for breaches in behavior even though she was in her twenties and a working girl in a law office, unfortunately she still lived at home. There was a time when our stepmother and father went on a business trip together and left us in her parents watch for four days. On the second night of our stay Patricia came in about 2:30 in the A.M. There was alot of loud talking going on downstairs that ended with Patricia angrily, almost yelling, "Fine, I get I'm grounded"!! And she stomped up the stairs and slammed her door. Everybody was up and out now wanting to know what was happening. Our stepgrandparents were at the bottom of the stairs and Dan was calling for his daughter "To get back down here this instant"! Grandmother tried to shoo us back to bed but Grandpa said the howling Patty is going to do will "wake the dead". Patty was fetched by her mother as she didn't respond to her father's command. She was led by the arm by grandmother and brought in front of her father who was seated in a dining room chair brought into the living room.When Patricia saw the paddle in her father's hand she started crying and appologizing. Beth started pulling everyone watching from the steps and acting the roll of big sister made us go to our rooms. I remember hearing Patty pleading as she sounded just like one of us and begging for it not to be on the bare. From the sounds coming from the room Patricia's request was denied. And as predicted by Dan Patty's screams and howls kept everyone up. It ended after about 10 or 12 minutes and I couldn't help but think our mother was subject to this gave me solice and a little insight. She was brought back upstairs and back into her bedroom by her mother who said,"You and I will discuss the rest of your punishment tommorrow, good-night". Everything was quite in the house again save for the sounds of sobbing that came from Patty's room. In a little while I had an urgency to pee so I got up to go to the bathroom. I walked in to lighted room. Aunt Patricia was standing by the sink in front of the full length dressing mirror holding a soaked towel to her purple colored backside. She was dressed or rather undressed in a bra and girdle and stockings. Her girdle and panties were around her knees. When she saw me she turned her back me and hobbled further away and in a hoarse loud whisper asked rhetorically, "What the hell are you doing here,Get Out"! "I have to pee" "I didn't know you were in here". "Wow"!"You got it good". "You think so",I was going to show everyone at work and get a concensus" she said sarcastically feeling a little more at ease at my presence as I went over to the bowl past her. "Could you turn away",I said. "like you got something I haven't seen". "Well it wasn't mine". "Grow-up", she said back. The urge grew too much for me so I did my best to sheild any view. Something else grew too and it was making it difficult to pee. She said something about how much time I was taking and said as I remember, "Enjoy yourself" and went back to ministering to her wounds. I left and got into bed but couldn't sleep. I couldn't get Patricia off of my mind. I wished our mother got it this bad so she would know what it feels like. This thought haunted my dreams forever. |
| Name: | Pigtails Spanked |
| E-mail address: | young_spanked@yahoo.co.uk |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Hi, I was wondering if anyone does commission drawings? I like those similar to Lee Warner's drawings in colour and would love to hear from anyone who can draw like that for me for a price obviously! Please email me :)
Thanks! |
| Name: | andy |
| E-mail address: | andyfa@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | hi |
| Name: | andy |
| E-mail address: | andyfa@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | hi friends
i can't access "King's Dungeon" community,what is the problem? |
| Name: | Screemer |
| E-mail address: | --------------------- |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Hi everyone!!!!!
It's good to see that Handprints is still up and running! Time flyes by fast. I like this site a lot! About the russian page... I saw some one wanting info on it, well it's down, and I hope that it will stay that way!!!! Best wishes to all!! |
| Name: | Dr. Spoon |
| Homepage URL: | http://voy.com/221405/ |
| Comments: | New Corporal Punishment support form
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| Name: | Pigtails Spanked |
| E-mail address: | young_spanked@yahoo.co.uk |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Hi everyone! Does anyone know any other good spanking drawing forums or places which have similiar art to Lee Warner's? Schoolgirl scenes are of particular interest but any ideas and/or emails would be welcome. Thanks :) |
| Name: | anon |
| Homepage URL: | http://www.sophieblackall.com/spanking.html |
| Comments: | http://www.sophieblackall.com/images/sb%20children/blackall.spanking.jpg |
| Name: | KKen |
| E-mail address: | drgonzo899@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | A fine and divine compilation of all the best artists of our niche and time. Thank you for all your hard work and steadfastness! |
| Name: | Rob |
| E-mail address: | bnabtrob@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://www.theweek.com/article/index/100940/Spanking_and_IQ_loss |
| Comments: | Hey all not to be a wet blanket "BUT" it was in the news this week that spanking (REAL)can lower a child's IQ,and their test scores are lower than that of no-spanked kids.
Have a cheery day............Rob |
| Name: | anon |
| Homepage URL: | http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/ |
| Comments: | correlation does not prove causation, and in all his studies Dr. Straus admits the correlations is extremely weak - they are practically meaningless - but he continues to produce this drivel because it is propaganda the media reports as fact |
| Name: | Rob |
| E-mail address: | bnabtrob@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Nice update's thanx......Rob |
| Name: | Karl Goldbeck |
| E-mail address: | karlgold5@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | What Handprints may not realize is their situation is much worse than youtube. Youtube will edit their spanking video clips, especially if it is on the bare bottom. But youtube to date DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR CITE DENIED.
Because Handprints shows drawings and comics of girls being spanked on the bare bottom, your cite is considered to be a pornographic one and has its access denied. Where I live out of the three public places where I can get access to the internet, none of them block access to youtube, but two out of three of them deny it to Handprints. It means only one out of three cites can I gain access to your cite. If Handprints wants to blame someone for having access denied to their cite, blame the unscrupulous lawyers who defend the sickies who will sexually molest children. These sickies will claim it is your drawings and your cartoons of girls being spanked on the bare bottom that turned them on, and it is your fault they sexually molested children. What makes matters worse is these lawyers do have a following, and their solution to these sickies who sexually molest children is to deny access to your cite because they erroneoulsy believe by denying access to your cite these sickies will not molest children. I personally think that is crap, and anyone who sexually molests a child more than twice should be locked up in a mental hospital for the rest of their life. I myself have worked with young children and have NO SYMPATHY FOR ANYONE WHO SEXUALLY MOLESTS CHILDREN. But your cite SHOULD NOT BE PUNISHED BECAUSE OF SHOWING DRAWINGS AND CARTOONS OF GIRLS BEING SPANKED ON THE BARE BOTTOM. To claim looking at drawings such as yours is the first step sickies who molest children follow is what these lawyers have done. It means ANYONE WHO LOOKS AT YOUR DRAWINGS OR YOUR CARTOONS OF GIRLS BEING SPANKED ON THE BARE BOTTOM IS ACCORDING TO THESE LAWYERS ON THE WAY TO SEXUALLY MOLESTING CHILDREN. So blame them and good luck. AND IF YOU DO GET SHUT DOWN YOU KNOW WHY!!!!!! |
| Name: | Don Quixote |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Thank you, Karl, for that frantic, screaming rant about your local public internet providers' inconsistencies in allowing access to YouTube and Handprints. I'm glad to hear you've attempted to access Handprints in no less than three public places. Did you compose your message from the only one that didn't block access? I ask because the thought of you hunched over a computer at the local library and angrily pounding out your diatribe into the HP Dreambook, with the reddened bottom of the imaginary girl in the background visible to anyone who might wander by, warms my heart. Really.
Anyway, I don't recall Handprince ever mentioning access to his site being blocked by anyone; from the tone of your message one expects to scroll up to see several messages from Handprince reading something like "I HATE THE SAVANNAH PUBLIC LIBRARY DISTRICT," but one does not. So the issue appears to be yours. The most obvious solution to your problem would be to obtain private, at-home access to the internet, if you haven't already. It's safer, and you won't get weird looks - deservedly or undeservedly - from strangers passing by. As for the reason these places are blocking Handprints, there is a more likely explanation than the one you gave: the collection of keywords connected to the site gets it blocked automatically. Handprints is surely one of the few sites on the internet advertising "bare bottom spanking" content that isn't pornographic in nature. (Sites with gay content are similarly plagued by false positives from webfilters: for example, a site providing resources for gay teens is blocked because it's confused for a gay porn site.) The problem is dumb webfiltering programs and their implementers; unscrupulous lawyers promoting bogus child molestation defenses involving spanking cartoons have nothing to do with it. Lawyers have better things to do than write webfiltering programs in any case. Lastly, sites like YouTube, Google and Wikipedia aren't blocked by filters because their content is too vast and varied even if some of it is objectionable. The content on Handprints on the other hand is very specific, and that's what we love about it, but it also makes it more vulnerable to being blocked. So...get home internet access or start a letter-writing campaign. Or both. |
| Name: | HandPrince (rerun) |
| E-mail address: | handprince@excite.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Before I ever started the Handprints site, I went to New York City for a personal consultation with a first amendment lawyer who specialized in defending people accused of violating the child pornography statutes. I wanted to make sure the website I envisioned would be entirely within the law. What he told me was "child pornography is any photographic material which a prosecutor can successfully convince a jury is child pornography." Paintings and drawings, on the other hand, are legal unless a prosecutor can prove they are "obscene," which is far more difficult and is impossible in cases where the image has redeeming artistic value of any sort.
Photos of children in bathing suits playing on the beach DO qualify as child porn if the prosecutor can convince a jury that you find them erotic, especially if the images focus on the children's clothed bottoms or pubic area. That means that if you download a family photo of a child in a bathing suit jumping over a wave at the beach, and then crop it so that her buttocks outlined under her bathing suit fill the picture, that makes it potentially prosecutable as child porn. In the United States versus Knox (1994) the US Supreme Court upheld a standard of "child pornography" which includes images in which minors not only are not engaged in sexually explicit activity, but aren't even nude. Mr. Knox ordered a video through the mail featuring 10-17 year old girls in underwear, bathing suits and leotards dancing, with the camera zooming in on the area of their clothing which covered their genital areas. Knox got several years in prison for this non-nude, non-sexual video. He thought the video was legal. A prosecutor convinced a jury otherwise and Knox went to prison as a result. "Child Pornography," under US law, means "photographic depictions of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct." Title 18 U.S.C. § 2256 defines "minor" as anyone under 18 years of age, and defines "sexually explicit conduct" to include, "actual OR SIMULATED... sadistic or masochistic abuse." So a posed photo of an adult with a bare bottomed minor across their lap with their hand in the air as if preparing to administer the first spank WOULD qualify as child porn if the prosecutor can convince a jury that you find fantasies involving spanked minors erotic. Having a hard drive full of legal Handprints type drawings will be more than sufficient for a prosecutor establish that kind of interest on your part, even though the Handprints images themselves are completely legal. Home movies of actual spankings of nonconsenting children totally qualify as child porn if you possess them and if you can be shown to have a fetish for that sort of thing. And "possession" can mean simply having a recoverable version of the picture or video in your browser's cache or temp folder even if you never actually took the step of saving a copy. Deleting such a file after you save it still leaves a copy on your computer for which you may potentially be prosecuted. Even if you overwrite the file with other data, forensic data recovery specialists can use statistical methods to go through your hard drive bit domain by bit domain and reconstruct the file and thus prove you once possessed it unless you overwrite it multiple times with random data using a file shredding program. (See http://www.jetico.com/index.htm#/bcwipe.htm ) Back in the 70's there was a digest sized magazine which had only one issue that I know of. It was called "Child Discipline" and included stories, some 19th and 20th century juvenile spanking art, and a couple of photos of adults and children posing with the child over the adult's knee bottom bared as if for a spanking. Finding this was a revelation for me because it was the first proof I had that I wasn't the only person in the world who was "this way." But I threw away my copy many years ago to comply with a new possession law at my State level. Anyone who frequents the Handprints site who possesses material like that, either in hard copy form or on your hard drive is strongly advised to do likewise. Keep in mind that if you live in the USA, your State also has its own child porn statutes and in some cases they are even stricter than the Federal statutes. If you have a spanking fetish and you so much as look at an online photo or video of even a posed pretend spanking of a real minor or even of someone who appears to be a real minor, you are putting yourself at risk not merely of imprisonment, but of imprisonment as a sadistic kiddie beating pervert whom the other prison inmates will want to jump in the shower and ram a shiv between your ribs the first chance they get. To survive your years behind bars, you may need to be in protective custody, which means "the hole," a prison within a prison, in which you can expect your food to be urinated in and laced with broken glass daily because everyone on staff will know which tray of food is going to that scumsucking dirtbag sadistic child porn lover in isolation cell #2. Do you think you could handle that for 5-10 years straight? Anyone who tells you that a photo or video of a real or simulated spanking of a real minor is legal for fetishists to collect in the USA is either ignorant or lying and possibly a cop hoping to entrap you. If you value your freedom, stay way from such stuff. And if anyone contacts you to offer or ask about such material, assume them to be a cop and shun them. If you get anything like this in the mail, immediately hand it in to your local post office and fill out their form asking not to be sent such material in the future; it was almost certainly agents from the Postal Inspection Service who mailed it to you in the first place, not your fellow spankos, and if you hand it in and fill out the complaint form the Inspectors will cross you off their list and focus on entrapping some other poor sucker rather than you. Stick to drawings and cartoons and fiction. Your fetish isn't worth dying in prison for. And I would appreciate it if everyone would please not post links in the Handprints Guestbook leading to sites with home movies or homemade photos of child spankings. Aside from the legal jeopardy of viewing such material, there is also the moral and ethical issue of supporting the exploitation of a child for the delectation of adult fetishists on the internet. Drawings, cartoons and fiction are free of this problem as well. When I was a child, I felt awful when I knew my cute little sister was about to get a spanking. I wished it wasn't going to happen to her. But at the same time, I always felt an overwhelming driven urgent need to watch, or at least, to overhear. Afterwards, I felt like dirt. When I see links to sites with videos or photos of actual child spankings, I feel a twinge of that same urge today. But there is no way I am going to jail for this fetish of mine. And besides, I know that if I did succumb to temptation out of weakness and did view such a site, I would once again feel like dirt afterwards, at least if the photographic material was of real spankings. And even faked child spanking photos like the ones in "Child Discipline" leave a bad taste in my mouth aside from their illegality; I worry about the child, if she was forced into the photo session, if she will be telling therapists about it in 20 years, etc. Who needs that on your conscience? HP |
| Name: | Anonymous (rerun) |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | There is a difference between child spanking art and adult spanking art that is much deeper than just the age of the person being spanked. When people see a depiction of a child being spanked, they normally presume three things in the absence of evidence to the contrary. (1) They presume that the spanking is nonconsensual. (2) They presume that the person giving the spanking has some kind of authority to do so. (3) They presume that the purpose of the spanking is to correct the child's behavior, not to satisfy a sadistic impulse. This combination is important because it provides a framework in which people with an interest in nonconsensual spankings can view such spankings as morally justified.
Trying to develop adult spanking scenarios that combine the same three properties in a way that feels realistic, rather than contrived and artificial, is difficult. And trying to create a significant body of adult spanking drawings that convey all three of those elements in a believable, easily recognizable, unambiguous way would be virtually impossible. Many adults with an interest in spanking are interested in age play to varying degrees because the idea of an adult spanking a "child" feels more realistic than adult roleplay scenarios would. That being the case, it should not be surprising that there is also an audience for stories and artwork depicting children being spanked. |
| Name: | Jean (rerun) |
| E-mail address: | Jeandelimbourg@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | In the debate about what is legal and what is not, you have several aspects.
- First, you have public disgust of sexual minorities. A gay teacher and youth volleyball trainer got accused by parents of child abuse. My own volleyball club collected hundredfiftytwo signatures of people who as a kid had been trained by him, testifying he had never done them wrong. He got cleared of all charges by the court. He lost his job, as a teacher has to be free of all suspicion and reasons can always be found or manufactured. He had to move out of the village to the anonymity of the city. Moral: you don't have to do something illegal to be found disgusting. I don't know where you work, but be sure that if some drawings from this site are circulated, people will change their mind about you. (That is actually happening with the SFR spanking site. Some postings may have been of bad taste, but I saw never anything wrong, not according to US or EU law. Public sites are governed by what the "moral majority" feels is appropriate.) - Second, in all EU countries and likely Russia, private vids of children that are really spanked are illegal. There are three elements: giving a spanking, taping it and putting it on the internet. If you possess these, and are sexually excited by it, you are guilty of supporting violence against children. Don't fool yourself. The argument "i possess but one" is similar to the argument "i robbed but a single bank". It IS bad, and the spanking any judge of USA or EU will give you is truly deserved. - And third, there is the large grey area in between... The law has always to be interpreted, but that interpretation is unlikely to be supportive, because of problem 1: people find you disgusting. Grey areas are some youtube vids of play spankings, spankings taped by children for fun, etc. They have to lack sexual intent and be clearly innocent, but they can be used for sexual stimulation. If you have a website with dozens of these, I wish you good luck, but pray to have that good luck. Grey areas are also virtual pornography, and for example Lee Warner drawings of the HP site may be considered illegal, after malevolent interpretation and in some EU countries. Lawyers and even some very decent journals protest against the concept of "virtual pornography", as it can be stretched to include the catalog of medieveal paintings of the genitals of the child Jesus. Always remember, interpretation will not be benevolent. You may put up a fight like HP, for freedom of thought and freedom of phantasies that are harmless to true children (who by the way are far more harmed by negligent education, McDonalds, too many screens and too little scratches, bumps and bruises from playing outside in their child life). But every society likes his witches to hunt. |
| Name: | Alain |
| E-mail address: | alainx_1666@yahoo.com.mx |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | ;-)
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| Name: | Tim |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | A true spanking is given by and adult forcably to a child. Now I know we like to dance around that fact and we settle for variations on that theme, but that is what most of us prefer to see or participate in deep down. Admit it :} |
| Name: | spankandro |
| E-mail address: | xxx'xxx.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | hey why you have deleted my post I just asking where is possible to find spanking videos on nazdak forum. god!
[HandPrince replies: Yes, I deleted your post for precisely that reason. I don't want links in this Guestbook to sites with home videos or photos of actual minors being spanked. Take it somewhere else please.] |
| Name: | Rob |
| E-mail address: | bnabtrob@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Hey Khan nice new art work THANK'S |
| Name: | Rob |
| E-mail address: | bnabtrob@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Hey spankandro maybe it was something like your email?????
what do you think!!!!!!!!!! P.S. who can we trust ?????? |
| Name: | Sledge2071 |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Hey! Suni got #2 correct in CK pic 180 "Red Marks!"
91 x 2 = 182 An appeal! I demand an Appeal! And a corndog, I want a corn dog too. |
| Name: | Cannibal Khan |
| E-mail address: | cannibalkhan2@hotmail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Good eye, Sledge...I was wondering who was gonna catch that!
There's a second hidden gag in that one...more of a verbal trick. You corndog is in the mail. |
| Name: | Tim |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Hey Cannibal Khan, thanks for the pics. They are really good. When you first started posting I didn't like the style of drawing (though that is just a personal preference) but I'm beginning to see how good the pics are. Your humor adds a lot. Keep it up! |
| Name: | LBK |
| E-mail address: | littlebigchild@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Tim,
I'm not sure if you are saying that we would all really like to see that sort of material, but can't get it. Or that such material would be what we liked, if it didn't repulse us more than it turned us on. I will admit that in the distant past I download such material. I watched it once, then wanted throw up. That anyone would do that kind of thing to a child for his own or another's enjoyment literally sickens me. It is not what "I really want to see." It is, in fact, what I really want to see wiped off the face of the planet. What I want to see is as realistic reproduction of such a scene as possible that I can still stand to look at. Some of what I can stand to look at may even technically be illegal. (Mainstream actors, although I often find adult actors are better at portraying children during a spanking.) But the "real" thing. No thank you. |
| Name: | JB |
| E-mail address: | burford55@gmail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Excellent site, keep up the good work. I would like to commission some custom spanking art. One of my favourite artists is Jay Em whose e-mail addresses are not working. Any suggestions or reccomendations most welcome.
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| Name: | Screemer |
| E-mail address: | --------------- |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Hi Every one!
I must say that I really enyoy the Handprintz site. I must compliment you Hand, on your hard resolve not to permit links to "BAD" sites! Recently how ewer, I got a little disturbed, one person on the forum asked about the Nahzdak site, and their video clips... I emidietlly searched Google for Nahzdak, becouse I wanted to se if it was reactivated, as they said they would... BUT found NOTHING that was that forum. I was against that forum ewer since I saw it when it was active, but it seems that it's not. Now my question is... Is this page back upp?? And if so.. Damn.. Best wishes to all! |
| Name: | Anon |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Screemer, Are you a moron or just a troll? Stop talking about that site. No one cares! You obviously are looking for it or you wouldn't bother posting. You are so obvious and annoying. Go away. |
| Name: | patsy scapegoat |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | From the small bits I gleamed from argyll's posts, I would say that nashdek is now working much more on the down low. The only way to get in is to ask someone on the inside, an act I would advise all my American brethren against.
I would strongly recommend a more mainstream source of gratification: http://www.realspankings.com/ or http://www.spankingtube.com/ |
| Name: | Screemer |
| E-mail address: | ---------------- |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Hi all!
Sorry for my missunderstod intentions! I most certainly do not want to be annoying or anything, but I guess that was what some f you thought. Dear Anon, I do not search for that site, and I mearly wanted to se if sites like that are being shut down and thay can not be tolerated. Thats why I praise Hand, for erasing any BAD linking to simmilar sites... And so it is! Best wishes to all!!! |
| Name: | Rennie |
| E-mail address: | reynardransack@ymail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I love seeing the hand or hairbrush applied right across the middle of the upturned bare bottom. After all, that's where bottoms are their naughtiest, and naughtiness goes with spanking the way pants go with being taken down.
Also love that Funbun drawing at the start of "What's New?" I'm a fan of F/f imagery anyway, and Funbun has a knack for making the spank-reddened backside the delightful focus of attention. Much obliged. :) |
| Name: | Anon11 |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Hi just wanted to say I LOVE the pic by Kilo!!! I must say I like all of the spanking art here, but I most enjoy the art of baby/toddlers being spanked over a very motherly lap. Can't say why, but when I think of spanking art it is the very young yet still naughty children getting it from their mommy that comes to mind. Anyway, keep up the great work! |
| Name: | Rob |
| E-mail address: | bnabtrob@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | GEEEEE!!!!! why is it that we rather see little girl bare bottoms getting whacked than little boy bare bottom's ????
anyone have a thought on this (and be honest) |
| Name: | Screamer |
| E-mail address: | -------------- |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Hi All!
To be honest, I think that we prefer drawings and such with little girls in them, because we automatically consider that as a CUTE scene, seeing a loving mother or father smacking a girl's behind. Besides I think that girls are expected to behave, and as such they must get discipline when they fail to be good. So that is my thought on why we prefer drawings with little girls being spanked rather than boys. Best wishes to all! |
| Name: | Rob |
| E-mail address: | bnabtrob@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | AHHHHHHH one honest person and i agree 100% |
| Name: | Anon11 |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | On the subject of girls vs. boys, I think its completely up to the individual. No right or wrong, I myself like both. However I would like to see more of the little boy spanking art...I have seen some adorable little toddler boys and slightly older. And they are probably expected to be roudy as opposed to girls being good, so that justifies them needing their discipline as well lol! But either way, its just preferences. Love the site :) |
| Name: | Rob |
| E-mail address: | bnabtrob@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Do you think its fair to spank all girl's bare butt OR should they be allowed to wear pantty's (my self i like the bare factor) |
| Name: | Anon11 |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I myself love the bare bottom spanking vs the clothed. And since this is all art, why not go bare bottom? Again, since its only fictitous artwork why not draw or look at what we like? I myself prefer the younger children even toddlers boy and girl as in my imaginary spanking world, this is when they really begin to be naughty and need to be punished. Some people have criticized me for this, but again its all imaginary so what do someones preferences hurt(excluding sexual content of course)? But the idea of a young one being naughty and having their loving but stern mommy bare their bottoms and put over her lap to smack just excites me much more than swatting a clothed bottom or having the much older child get swatted by father etc...to me personally it just doesn't have the same closeness and excitement of that I described myself liking most. I'm sure you can understand? What are your preferences on spanking art? |
| Name: | Red Tailed Hawk |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Like Anon 11, I prefer the "less than 9" group because this is the more likely group to actually get a spanking. I do have a preference of girls over boys but it is pretty much a coin toss when it comes to good artwork and if you have the skills toward drawing then, in the world of imagination, it might as well be drawn bare bottom and a nice shade of red.
RTH |
| Name: | Al |
| E-mail address: | a1118p@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I was wondering what the website that you posted is a couple of years ago that took some of your drawings and made them a little more extreme of the spanking of the characters. Some of them were from Lee Warner drawings, if you could post it again I would appreciate it. Since I think your sight is the best out there when it comes to spanking drawings. |
| Name: | victor |
| E-mail address: | ssdfs@hsfsf.uk |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Spank vids, foto, pics
http://[DELETED!] [HandPrince replies: I don't allow links in this Guestbook to sites which feature photographic/video depictions of actual minors being nonconsensually spanked. This goes double for the notorious russian site you posted a link to above. This is your only warning. If you do this again I will ban your IP address from posting here.] |
| Name: | Annemarie |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I have to be able to sympathise with both the spankee and the parents. The spankee should be a good child, who did something very stupid and earned a strict punishment. The parents should be warm, loving people. Therefore I prefer the historical setting, the 1950s and 1960s, when this was a normal (although relatively rare) punishment. Girls are more beautiful, but boys got a lot more spankings, so I don’t care too much about the gender… If the kid is too small, the spanking won’t be remembered (and young children got rarely more than one smack). If the kid is too big, either the kid is too bad, or the parents are abusive.
That makes age 8 - 10 the optimal age. I was then old enough to explore the world, young enough to do stupid things, old enough to know right from wrong, young enough to earn a well deserved spanking, old enough “to get it good”, and young enough to adore my dad as the living God. |
| Name: | Anon11 |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Annemarie: I very much respect your opinion, but its not quite the way you describe. There have been many personal accounts as well as written info actually proclaiming the younger ages to be those mostly spanked. In fact, the otk position was so because older babies/toddlers/very young children could easily be held in this position. Also, at such young ages these children often can't/couldn't communicate in depth w adults, so simple commands + spanking is what taught them their lessons. And good bare bottom spankings were certainly remembered by those who recieved them. The whole idea of spanking was it should be nearing an end once the child reaches older ages. And the bare factor, younger children show no modesty(usually) and it wasn't as big a deal to bare them as say compared to an older child who may even be starting puberty. Also consider diapers, they are thick so explains why they could be pulled down. I can offer plenty more info on the subject if you want. Again not disrespecting you at all, but can guarantee you it was more common the younger the child. :)
Also wanted to clarify I'm NOT advocating spanking real children... |
| Name: | CWL |
| E-mail address: | chastisewithlove@chastisewithlove.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://chastisewithlove.com |
| Comments: | The Geocities website, Spank with Love has been reposted at www.chastisewithlove.com
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| Name: | Jean |
| E-mail address: | Jeandelimbourg@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Please, do note that the gentle Victor leading you to a Russian blogpost with illegal content may be a policeman of an internet crime unit. Obviously, the self conscious pedofile will hide his IP number but the self deluded citizen who feels that he is doing nothing wrong may have to defend that thesis to a very unsympathetic judge. A conviction for violent child abuse does not look very good on your cv.
Be warned. Spanking is wonderful, but only between consenting adults. |
| Name: | Annemarie |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I was answering what "spanking art" I preferred...
This is not the place to discuss spanking of real children (how boring and predictable are these places). That is nine times out of ten the smack for the bottom or the tap on the wrist. Oh yes, you can do it without, as you can learn to run the marathon with your hands tied to your back. I was talking phantasy (drawings). |
| Name: | Anon11 |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | No need to be snappy, I completely respect someones preferences just as I stated mine as being neither right nor wrong, just what I liked. And nobody is try to discuss/debate the spanking of real children on here. I was simply pointing out some history regarding ages, as past spanking history and experiences generally tend to influence spanking art. So whatever you like is fine, I'm not criticizing your preferences nor am I slapping your wrists or whatever you were saying. |
| Name: | Anonymous |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Fantasy tends to work best when it bears a close enough relationship to reality to seem plausible, either in the real world or making reasonable allowances for how a sci-fi or fantasy universe is different from ours. (Child spanking art and stories can generally be presumed to take place in a fantasy world where spanking is less controversial, and has less reason to be controversial, than in the real world.) To me, if a child in a spanking story or picture is too young, it becomes relatively difficult to buy into the idea that the child has a good enough understanding of the difference between right and wrong to deserve to be spanked particularly hard. As a result, the discrepancy between the severity of the punishment and what seems plausibly fair intrudes on the fantasy more than it would with an older child.
On the other hand, as children get older, the feeling that they ought to be mature enough that they don't need spanked anymore starts to intrude, as does the fact that spanking on the bare bottom is more likely to take on sexual connotations. There is less of the childish innocence that makes it relatively easy (at least from my perspective) to accept what I see or read without questioning it. To me, the "sweet spot" is from about age seven or eight to about age ten or eleven. That's old enough to have an understanding of right and wrong that goes significantly beyond just, "Mommy said not to," but young enough to be susceptible to childish misbehavior and young enough to avoid raising too many questions about whether the child feels something akin to being sexually violated being spanked on the bare bottom. |
| Name: | Rob |
| E-mail address: | bnabtrob@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Thank you for all of the update's they are great,i can rember way back when i was around ten year's oldish and seeing a comicbook of little lulu and some how (in a dream or something like that)she was in a shack and lost all of her clothes excipt her panty's and i was turned on by that.
Strange how a cartoon image of a little girl in her panty's can triger a flash-back like that and how back then the artist got away with it and it wasnt frowned apon. |
| Name: | Anon11 |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | One thing that I have noticed is it seems people are very sensitive to the age of a child being spanked in artwork. While one may have personal preferences which is completely ok and neither wrong nor right whatever they may be, it seems that the spanking of younger children or toddlers really turns people off. Now if we were talking about real life, then yes it would be different and children of all ages for that matter because spanking art sites are not about condoning the spanking of real children, rather the fantasy of spanking them.
Now with that being said, what does fantasy hurt? No one, fantasy is fantasy. No child whatever the age is harmed whether young or old. I agree with the above poster who said spanking art is generally based on what can/does/has happend in real life. I agree 100%, which is why I do not understand the turn off/problem with younger spankees. They have been spanked in the past for certain(references available), some continue to spank today and certainly they will probably be spanked in the future. My point isn't to condone spanking them in real life at all, just making the point that younger children just as older can be drawn with a realistic idea that they would really be spanked around that age. So that nullifies that argument. Next people act as if it is abusive and or inappropriate. Again, it is fantasy and not real life. And it is no more inappropriate to condone FANTASY spanking of a 9,10,11,12 year old child than that of a young one even around toddler age. If fantasy spankinf can be furry, older child, cartoon, etc...why is it so bad to enjoy young spankees? Its not, its really no different at all. My whole point is that spanking art sites DO NOT and SHOULD NOT condone he real life spanking of children of ANY age. Period. And they don't. So with that being said, many agree that they like to imagine in their fantasy's that the child being spanked has some realism to it. And by that I mean it is believable that they could in fact really be spanked. Not that they should, but rather could be as for many it just supports the fantasy for many different reasons. Therefore a child of ANY age should be believable in art, but should be noted it was not and is not uncommon for a toddler or preschool child to be spanked meaning that age should certainly be believable. So where does everyone go wrong with it outside of personal preference? If you don't like it because your just not into it, that is completely ok and an individual preference. But to criticize on reasons like it being inappropriate or unrealistic...that really doesn't make much sense. Again its all fantasy and for fun. No one is getting hurt. The material absolutely does NOT encourage real life punishment and how it should be given. It would be different if a lady was beating a baby with whips and chains(in a drawing), yes that would be disturbing to most whether a small crowd liked it or not. But to have normal spanking art just like the rest only involving a younger spankee, whats the big deal? It is all fictional. That being said, some draw and prefer spanking art of preteens, some teenagers...we should embrace and appreciate the creativity of all artist and spanking art of children whether quite young or a bit older and extend the same courtesy to the young as we do all of the rest. That does not mean those who just don't have the interest have to like it, just not hate it...and have all others criticizing based on reasons that go beyond fantasy and what fictional spanking art is all about. Sorry for such a long post, I am just so tired of everyone having a fit or criticizing spanking art of this type. Also I am not writing this in response to some of the visitors personal preferences, and again personal preferences are completely ok. I wrote the above post for other reasons, some recent some a bit older. So no one take offence if you think I was criticizing your preferences on age ranges in spanking art. I assure you I am not. Just wanted to say how I felt on the age range to those who argue that young/toddler is wrong. |
| Name: | Rob |
| E-mail address: | bnabtrob@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | What are spankophiles ????? someone refered to me as one,are they anything like pedophiles ??? hope the fuck not
:( :( :( |
| Name: | Anonymous |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | The suffix "phile" comes from Greek and means "lover," with the type of love not carrying intrinsic sexual connotations. (The Greek language has a different word - "eros" - for erotic love; guess where our word "erotic" comes from.) The city of Philadelphia derives its name from the same Greek word as the suffix "phile" and its name means, "city of brotherly love."
Interpreting the word literally based on its component parts, a pedophile is nothing more than a person who loves children. The only reason why being a "pedophile" is viewed as a bad thing is that we use the word almost exclusively to refer to people who have (or are presumed to have) one particular kind of "love" for children - a kind of love that often isn't really love at all, but merely sexual desire. A spankophile is merely a person with a "love" of spanking. From what I've seen, the term is widely accepted within the community of people with an interest in spanking (often shortened to just "spanko"), and is not viewed within that community as carrying negative connotations. And the word has nothing to do with whether or not the interest in spanking extends to children. |
| Name: | Ellie |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I have been fascinated by spankings since I was a kid. I only ever got spanked twice, maybe three times when I was very young, and I don't really remember much about those spankings, but for some reason when I was about 8 I realized that spankings excited me. My experiences are so similar to so many other accounts I've read. I used to look up "spank" in the dictionary and roll the words around in my head. I've put piles of pillows on the bed and bent over them, taken down my jeans and panties and spanked myself. I've trolled the internet for clips from old movies. I know, you've heard this all before.
The reality is I don't actually want to be spanked, I just want to fantasize about it. Which is why I love this site so much. I love to look at the pictures, and write a little story surrounding it. Some of my favorite pictures to write stories about are the Cannibal Khan pictures, because I think he creates terrific scenarios. Some of my favorites are "Front Row Seat". I imagine the little brunette girl in the front row dreading getting such a spanking, but at the same time curious. In "Around the Corner", I imagine the girl in the green jumper dreading her spanking which is imminent, yet, she is quite excited listening to her sister being spanked. I think it's the conflicting emotions that grabs me so much.
If any one is interested, I could post some of these little stories ... [HandPrince replies: Please do, Ellie!] |
| Name: | John Doe |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | There was this really great photo of the Animaniacs getting spanked................but I forgot what gallery it was in. HELP!!!!!!! |
| Name: | Red Tailed Hawk |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Where did the new Comics 7 (Asstd100) come from and what was in the caption ?
Thanks. RTH [HandPrince replies: Sorry, I have no other information.] |
| Name: | Cannibal Khan |
| E-mail address: | cannibalkhan2@hotmail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I'm glad you're enjoying my stuff Ellie. I've been in a kind of a slump lately, unable to get motivated to create new work, but encouragement like yours goes a long way.
Thanks a lot.....C. Khan |
| Name: | Ellie |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Hiya CK! So chuffed you answered me :) I love the HP site, my favorites being 1) You, 2) Lee (of course :), 3) Droo, and 4) Gaius. There are elements in common with all of these great artists.
1) The situations are believable, well, not for the 21st Century, but perhaps 50 or 60 years ago. Real Moms and Dads spanking little girls, or naughty little girls being spanked in school. 2) There's no abusive spanking. Well, actually, that's not true, since I consider spanking of real children abusive, but let’s face it, it used to happen, at home and at school. And I guess it's a platitude, but those kids from the first half of the 20th century grew up OK. In fact Tom Brokaw characterizes the WWII generation as the finest generation of Americans, many of whom were certainly spanked in school and at home. 3) The anticipation factor figures highly in all of these artists. I particularly LOVE CK’s drawings for this reason. For example, Waiting for the Cane—What is going through her head? 4) The voyeur factor also figures, certainly in Droo and CK’s work. One of my favorites is Made an Example. Middle sister is about to feel the belt on her bare bottom, while younger sister is seeing this for the first time. Brother is trying his hardest to hide his excitement, while at the same time feeling sorry for his sister. And big sister is wishing she still got spanked, rather than grounded. 5) Combination of anticipation and voyeur. CK has this one down perfectly! The Sin of Gambling is wonderful example. The cute blonde girl has just witnessed the brunette’s spanking, is watching the redhead’s spanking in progress realizing it’s her turn next. I would love to get into her head to figure out what she’s thinking. I guess that’s why I write the stories. I could go on and on about how exciting I find these pictures, But I’ve already said enough. |
| Name: | John Doe |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I am SUCH a fan of your drawings, Cannibal Kahn. The way how you expertly craft your drawings is simply amazing. You make the expressions on your characters feel real to us. As a kid, I accidently stumbled on Handprints. I've always had a weird fixation with spankings, but I was horrified at some of the pictures I saw- Mr K.D. Several years later, I visted the site again. I began to see some of the pictures, and I was disapointed at all the anime pictures. Then, I clicked on your third gallery. The amount of realism simply stunned me. Thank you very much (Handprince and C.Kahn) |
| Name: | Anonymous |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I have mixed feelings about CK's art. On the plus side, I view CK as the preeminent master around here at building stories around pictures, sometimes letting the pictures do such a good job of telling the stories that no words are required and sometimes coming up with clever text to go with them. The variety of scenarios is especially impressive.
But I've never been all that impressed with the artwork itself, and I finally figured out why. I think the amount of red in most of the girls' faces (and occasionally adults' faces as well) is both unrealistic and ugly, and detracts from pictures that would be significantly better otherwise. I have no idea whether that's just a personal bias or whether other people might tend to feel the same way. I hate to criticize, especially since drawing is definitely not one of my talents. But if criticism isn't expressed (preferably in a polite and respectful way), artists don't have a chance to think about whether they might be able to make their work better if they did something different. |
| Name: | Anon |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I like the picture by JLB showing the little girl over her dad's knee while her brother looks on. I think it nicely shows the girl struggling as her bare bottom is spanked. On thing I do not understand is artists showing girls properly stripped naked from the waist down with their shoes still on. I would think that these would need to come off before the rest of the clothing. |
| Name: | Tony |
| E-mail address: | tonybanks112@btopenworld.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Hi, just wondered if anyone liked adult spanking, I have found a few clipe of real spanking of over 18, completely legal. usually these clips found on the Internet are of big fat tattooed bottoms but the ones I have found are of gorgeous bottoms getting real spanking. Please feel free to contact me and I will send you some clips. These are not kids they are adults. |
| Name: | Kevin |
| E-mail address: | woodenspoon4u@hotmail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | This is a great webiste, and the art is fantastic. As a disciplinarian I firmly believe in the benefits a good old fashioned spanking can produce and these illustrations reflect them. Keep up the great work! |
| Name: | Tony |
| E-mail address: | tonybanks112@btopenworld.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Some of you may like this (Adult spanking)
http://www.spankingtube.com/watch/23f7517125db46ed1293/OTK%20Hand%20Spanking%20and%20Strapping |
| Name: | No1 |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | No one wants to see your porn so stop trying to get views on your video. That is not what this site is for. So pathetic. |
| Name: | Tony |
| E-mail address: | tonybanks112@btopenworld.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I do not intend to leave any more links of adult spanking but like I said I thought some people would like it and I know I'm right from the response I have had. People have contacted me for one of my clips and have told me how they have enjoyed it. I do not intend to post any more links but people are still invited to contact me. As for you, how dare you preach to me, I have chosen to turn my attention away from children to adult spanking and wanted to share it with others, I am not criticising anyone on this site and would not dream of verbally attacking anyone who views this site for what they look at or what they imagine but you have chosen to attack me. You mate are pathetic! |
| Name: | Question |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Does anyone know the address of the old "smackedandsuch page? |
| Name: | les647 |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | The old smackedandsuch site, otherwise known as Kings Dungeons was an exceptionally 'correct' site, and was 100% legal, like Handprints. But it has, sad to say, finally been destroyed. What a pity. |
| Name: | flrscnts |
| Homepage URL: | http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2009/11/letters-shaming-undermines-justice-.html |
| Comments: | "Some judges have faced charges over their meting out personal justice but have received little punishment. Gustavo "Gus" Garza, a justice of the peace in Texas, was given only an admonishment last year when he forced parents to spank their children in front of him in court to avoid heavy fines. In another spanking case, former Alabama judge Herman Thomas actually used shaming punishments as a criminal defense. Thomas was recently acquitted of sodomy and assault after he allegedly took inmates from their cells for spankings and sex in his chambers. Despite testimony alleging spanking and sodomy, Thomas' lawyer insisted that the judge was merely "mentoring them" and trying to turn them into "productive citizens" in dealing with them in chambers."
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| Name: | LBK |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Tony,
"No1" does not speak for everyone here. Nor, do I think he has any right to speak for HP himself. I, for one, do not object to links that show actors playing the part of a little girl being spanked. I am always amazed at how intolerant the users of this site can be, considering that having any interest in this site at all automatically puts them out of the "vanilla normal" category. I, for one, thank you for sharing (legal) links that you think may be of interest to our group. The only thing you might want to do in the future, is put a little more description of the links into your post. This way people who aren't interested in that type of content will never go there accidentally. If HP wants to limit what kinds of links go onto this guestbook, it is fully his right. Until then, don't take anyone else's abuse at face value. Nobody here can speak for anyone else's interests. As soon as you see "Nobody wants to..." or "nobody is interested in..." you know that someone is speaking for people he has no right to speak for. |
| Name: | Tony |
| E-mail address: | tonybanks112@btopenworld.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Well said LBK, why not contact me I like to chat. Mr No1 don't bother. |
| Name: | Anonymous |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I agree that No1's tone was far less polite than it should have been, but links to adult spanking videos are off topic. One such link doesn't cause any real harm, but there is a risk of setting a precedent that could clutter the guestbook. If someone finds a legitimate free site with a number of adult spanking videos, it could be reasonable to post a link because the scope is significantly beyond just a single video. And links to realistic roleplay scenarios where the spankee is playing a little girl (not an almost-adult teenager) would fit much more closely with the topic of this board than links to other kinds of adult spanking videos do. But otherwise, I think it's better to avoid cluttering up the guestbook with links to adult spanking videos. (Note that the dialogue in the video that started this discussion doesn't fit the adult-spanks-child genre at all.)
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| Name: | Anony2 |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I think Anonymous said it best. This is not a site to start linking to adult spanking porn. I agree that those who come here are not looking for that kind of stuff or they would go elsewhere. Once one person posts a link, then another, then someone else starts- it strays from the heart of what makes this site so unique. I did not watch the link, but knowing spankingtube is a site for adult spanking porn, I don't need to click on it to know it's not what I want or like.
This is primarily an art site anyway. There are 4 things strictly unwelcome here: 1) Real images of real children being spanked, 2) Boy/male spankees, 3) Adult spankees, 4) Anything overtly sexual The link to spankingtube falls under 3 and 4. I believe HP is away now, but I am sure he will clarify upon his return and you will see that I am right. |
| Name: | LBK |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Handprince, can you verify that No1, Anonymous and Anony2 are posting from different IP addresses?
[HandPrince replies: yes, they are different IP addresses.] Regardless of how many people I'm arguing against, I want to point out that saying jumping on Tony was appropriate, due to not wanting this board to be filled with links, is an extreme example of the slippery slope logical fallacy. Failure to jump on one link will not magically turn this board into an index of links. If there begins to be a problem, HP can set rules against posting of links. Others may disagree, but I do not like people asserting their own opinion as a universal statement. I'd be fine if someone were to say "I don't want to see that" but to say "nobody wants to see that" is to assume unearned and ungranted prerogatives to speak for other people. (Although, I might add, if it isn't your thing, why did you even click on a link clearly marked as adult spanking?) [HandPrince replies: Posting links to adult spanking videos isn't encouraged here, but I haven't deleted the post in question. If the Guestbook starts becoming overwhelmed with thinly disguised ads for adult spanking porn sites I will crack down though.] |
| Name: | Rob |
| E-mail address: | bnabtrob@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Here,here LBK,you tell it like it is and i do respect that. |
| Name: | Annemarie |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | This is written from memories, a long time ago. It is dedicated as a gift to Cannibal Khan’s narratives and fantasies. It is seen through the eyes of a young girl in the memory of a middle aged women with a strange interest in spanking since her birth. Nearly dead at birth, the gynaecologist must have given me life by smacking my neonate bottom a little too hard. It is close to the truth as I remember it, but seconds looked like minutes, dozens like thousands and eager fantasies filled the holes. My parents were very strict, but actually not great in punishment. They just had a way to make us behave. What I remember most of my entire youth, was being a loved child in a warm nest.
------ I was 8, when the coldest winter of the twentieth century hit Europe. It is now close to 47 years ago. The first cold left a crust of ice over the waters, which had an irresistible attraction to me. I adored ice. Being a scrawny lightweight tomboy, I was tempted to try the ice, but living water is tricky. Suddenly, without warning, the ice cracked open and I fell in the water. It was frighteningly cold. The broken ice did not support me. Happily my father nearly drowned as a boy. He did not rest before his own children were able swimmers. Being the youngest, and having to face the competition of my older kin, I was already a very good swimmer with a strong leg stroke that brought me up the ice, but which did not support me. I swam up the ice, but as soon as I put weight on it, it broke. I had to cover the meters that separated me from the bank like an icebreaker. Outside the water, it was terribly cold. In a state of self hypnosis I ran home in one long desperate run. Reaching the door, I nearly fainted from the cold, waiting till it opened. My mother grabbed me in her arms, dripping all over her. She took me upstairs to the bathroom, where she struggled me out of my wet clothes, putting me under the warm shower and rubbing me hard with towels to get the blood streaming. I vividly remember seeing myself in the mirror, a strange blueish white girl with shattering teeth. After a while I started to thaw. I wished I could stay forever, but at the end mama rubbed me dry and warm. She asked thousand times how I felt, if everything was alright, if I was warm again. At the end, I had to admit: I felt glorious, all warm and tingling as after a sauna. “So, then. Now my time has come. Come here, you naughty girl.” She sat on the laundry box, and beckoned me over. While I was thawing in the shower, she had changed in dry clothes, brought along my pyjamas but also the wooden ruler she used when making clothes. I guessed, it was not to make clothes. I don’t remember if she mentioned the spanking word, maybe not wanting to hear that. My mother had never spanked me before (discounting the single swat for the bottom), nor would she ever after. She goaded me between her legs, grabbed me by the middle and pulled me over her left knee. I was acutely aware that I was well dressed for a spanking. For a moment, I felt cosy, warm and safe under the arm of my mam. It would be the first and last spanking by my mother, remembered for the rest of my life. She let the ruler dance over my seat with sharp flicks. At the ripe age of eight, I understood well why I was spanked. My mother lost a baby, a little girl, to that most horrible of fiends, cot death. You put a smiling, gurgling baby in bed, you find a little stiff corpse. It was nobody’s fault, but any mother will always blame it on herself. I was the replacement kid… With considerable self restraint, she had not overprotected me, but now she was very upset. The old proverb goes, who loves well, spanks well. She loved me too much. It went as “You naughty (!) naughty (!) naughty (!) girl (!). How (!) on earth (!) could you do (!) such a stupid (!) stupid (!) stupid (!) thing (!). You make (!) me mad (!) of fear (!). You could (!) have been killed (!) (!) (!). If (!) you (!) ever (!) ever (!) ever (!) even (!) think (!) about (!) repeating (!) such a stunt (!) you will not (!) sit down (!) for weeks (!). That was the beginning. I didn't want to cry, kick or protest. I wanted to face the music. I took the first smacks stoically and in total silence, which likely only inspired mother to hit harder. However, the ruler was but a light little wooden slat, undoubtedly handled with motherly care, but “on the bare bottom”, it soon caused a surprisingly evil sting. My bottom got sorer at each stroke, and each stroke hurt more. Imagine your bottom aching from a bad sunburn in a too skimpy bikini bottom, and then getting that red, sunburned skin friendly but firmly slapped with a wooden ruler. Every second. I had to make clear that I was a well spanked little girl and that I had learned my lesson, and please, mama, will you stop? But therefore, I had to open my mouth, while I desperately needed all my energy to keep control. Truly, I was tough, but with the increasing sting, the panic increased. My head seemed to grow bigger and bigger, redder and redder, till it exploded. I had to surrender. By giving in, the stinging moved in a moment from painful into unbearable. The wood whipping now fiercely smarting buttocks, turned in a moment in a red hot iron pushing under my naked skin. My eyes had been filling with tears, but now the snot was filling my nose and my mouth opened for desperate howls, interspersed with sobbing pleas and promises to be good for ever and ever and ever and ever. I can not remember that that soon brought out a lot of compassion. At the contrary. Mama only grabbed me more firmly to keep my struggling bottom in the line of fire, and hit me even more vigorously, to teach me for once and for all how bad could be a good spanking. Another popular proverb goes: spank once, do it good, you won’t need to spank twice. I do not suppose that the spanking took longer than a minute, even maybe not half a minute, but it seemed an eternity of raining painful strokes. However, there was something liberating in crying hot tears. Is that strange? The ruler hurt, but half the pain was caused by deep guilt. I howled, but at least as much of sorrow. Being in the icy water, and running for my life had not make me shed a single tear. The cries released the stress and the tears washed away the deep fear. Be sure, I would have hated any other who would have done this to me with a burning, lifelong hate, but not mam or dad. Who loves hard, is allowed to spank hard. When she released me, I grabbed my pyjamas, not bothering to lose time to put them on fearing she might change her mind and give me some more. I still remember her eyes, not sad, not angry, certainly not regretful or even sympathetic, but with a little twinkle of pride?? Sometimes, a naughty kid had to feel it. There was nothing wrong or dangerous to that: it was just a fact of life. Being a tomboy and a very avid reader, heavily enjoying popular books of Indians and cavemen, my prided nickname was “little warrior girl”. I admit ‘captured little warrior girl’ would have been a better description. From my tender youth, my preferred role was being caught, tied up, slightly manhandled and rescued by a young hero. The poor sod had to kiss me (a prudish peck, off course). I ran to my room, hoping not meeting one of my beloved brothers in my state of undress and with two tomato red buttocks. ---- There was a part two to this story. When releasing me, she shouted after my naked back running away: ‘Wait till your father comes home, you naughty girl.” In my wound up fantasy, that could only mean another spanking. As in most traditional families, dad was usually delivering corporal punishment. I had been spanked once by him, more than a year ago, when I had lied. He had asked me to do an errand, I had forgotten it, and instead of admitting that I had forgotten the errand, I just went on lying and lying till he lost his temper. He put his foot on the chair, dragged me over his knee, flipped my skirt up and gave me five or six of the very best ever given on my underpants. My dad was a big man, with arms like legs and hands like meaty shovels, and he had been very angry. It was so sudden, that even the worst pain came after I was already back on my feet again, but then I was really hopping around the room, my hands on my seat which felt as if I was skinned alive. I howled that I had been lying, and that I would never ever do it again. After hours in the corner (minutes, but patience was not my middle name), my dad, ashamed of his sudden outburst, hugged me in his big bear hug, stroking my hurt bottom now tenderly with his enormous paw and uttering something of an apology. I never forgot his words: a warrior girl is true, and admits when she has done wrong. I never lied again when he locked his grey blue eyes in mine and asked for the truth. But then, at the ripe age of 8, I was having powerful spanking fantasies. They were not entirely unpleasant. I was dizzy of fear and high on adrenaline. On my belly in my bed, I had pushed my pyjamas down from my bottom, wriggling in my bed, fantasizing being spanked, on the bare bottom off course, pleading no daddy, no daddy. It can’t have been anything sexual. I was nearly 15 when, till my great relieve, my body started to behave as that of grown up women. When dad came home, fear prevailed. My bottom was still chafing unpleasantly, feeling all ridged and striped by the ruler. I could not stomach another spanking. But off course, my dad didn’t spank me. He took me in his lap, let me explain how I fell in the ice, crawled out of it and ran home, his eyes full of pride in his little warrior girl. At the end, he asked, “Your mother gave you hell on your buttocks, didn’t she?” I nodded. “Does it still hurt?” I nodded again, with conviction. It truly did. “Didn’t you deserve it, did you?” I nodded, and I never forgot these last words. “A stupid act ruins your life, but also the lives of those who love you.” And I sincerely hoped for that daddy’s spanking, not too big and not too hard, just painful enough to shed again those few hot tears of sorrow. [HandPrince replies: Thank you Annemarie, for posting your story! I find it intriguing that you were spanked so rarely, yet your mother was so severe with you on this occasion for something which, after all, was an accident. I think she was too hard on you and that the natural consequences of your actions were all the punishment you should have had.] |
| Name: | Anonymous |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I didn't say, or even imply, that no one here wants to see links to adult spanking videos. If someone finds an exceptionally good place to look for adult spanking videos or boy spanking art, I consider it reasonable to post a link because many people here are likely to be interested in those kinds of things too, and because as long as links are to sites rather than to individual drawings or videos, and people are selective in what sites they post links to, the risk of clutter is limited.
The problem comes when people start posting links to individual adult spanking videos or individual boy spanking drawings that there is not a clear, solid reason to believe people here will view as significantly more interesting than others in the same genre. If such links aren't discouraged, we face a risk that people will start using this site as a place to share such links instead of taking such discussions to other places where they are more appropriate. I don't see any reason to view the video Tony linked to as more relevant than countless others, and if people posted links to even a significant fraction of the videos on SpankingTube that are comparably relevant, it would be difficult to find the discussion of girl spanking art and stories amidst all that clutter. I think it's better to discourage such links - preferably in a polite way - when they first show up than to wait until they become a problem. [HandPrince replies: Perhaps you are right that I ought to nip such links in the bud now rather than waiting to see if they become too prevalent. But I prefer to manage this Guestbook with a light hand and not delete people's posts unless I really feel it is necessary. That being said, I regret not taking a harder line in months past with the links to that Russian site which apparently had home movies of actual spankings of minors. I won't make that mistake again. Also, any posts which purport to be about spanking real children written from the spanker's point of view get deleted on sight. Regarding boy spankings, I don't object if men post memories of themselves being spanked as boys.] |
| Name: | Anony2 |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I am the one who posted the other Anony2 comment and I have not posted under any other name. Also, for the record, I did not click on the link, as I said in my original comment. I agree with the last two posters on this subject (sorry, can't remember the names.) And btw, I am a girl. |
| Name: | D |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I really enjoyed teh latest update. Lots of variety. |
| Name: | Tony |
| E-mail address: | tonybanks112@btopenworld.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | To Hand Prince
I agree totally with banning links to real child spanking. But what on earth was wrong with the link I left! There should be some rules posted at the start of this page because the introduction when you arrive here form a search doesn't suggest that that people on this site don't like spanking! [HandPrince replies: Well, I didn't delete your link so I am not the one calling it "wrong." That being said, I didn't find the video all that special in terms of being of interest to Handprints fans. Yes the spankee was minimally pretending to be a little girl, but there were also overt references by the spanker to making a movie, so this was an audition of some sort. There is lots of stuff like this out on the web and it isn't difficult to find. The Guestbook is for a more narrowly focused interest and there are relatively few places like it on the web. So links from the Guestbook should be relevant to juvenile spanking while also being legal.] |
| Name: | Ian shan Brett |
| E-mail address: | ianshanbrett@gmail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Many thanks to Drooyagh for 'The Witnesses' I'm glad to see little Jessi featured again in a story and I'm happy to know Cynthia is not being spoiled . Personally this is my favourite kind of story , F/f Otk with appreciative onlookers. Reminds me of the work of the great Juanoneone. It's also nice to know Mrs Kim has got her swing back again , for awhile she had been relying too much on her spouse and other males to perform what I believe to be a Mother's duty . Droo, this latest work comes up to the standard of 'The Late Show', my all time favorite . Cheers! ISB . |
| Name: | Jean |
| E-mail address: | Jeandelimbourg@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | There are a few zillion sites with adult spanking. If you like the one more than the other, there are other fora. Regardless of the virtues of this or that punishment, how would you feel if your dad put you up on the internet while being punished? We still have pillories on close to all marketplaces, but the last public whippings date from the 18th century. The internet is a very large marketplace.
I liked the post of Annemaria (she seems very continental European) - I have a similar experience... In my experience too, what we call a good spanking was rare, but hard: do it once, do it good. It was something like a rite of passage for boys, and a very feared punishment. While the rare but 'good' spanking was considered good parenting, frequent spankings were not. The parent who spanked often was either too soft or an insensitive brute. |
| Name: | CM |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I'd like to give an opinion about Drooaygah's drawings; why is not Cynthia's sister spanked!! It's like it's always Cynthia the one who misbehaves, but her sister is not much better than her!!
Just my opinion. [HandPrince replies: It may simply be poor Cynthia's fate to always be the one getting spanked while her obnoxious little sister, Jessi, always gets to look on gleefully and gloat while never ever ever getting the same treatment herself. Only Droo knows for sure.] ![]() |
| Name: | nathalia |
| E-mail address: | nhar@hotmail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | does anyone have drawings with girls getting a rectal thermometer well post them i want too see it. |
| Name: | LBK |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | CM, I'm right there with you, wanting to see the younger sister spanked (wouldn't minding seeing her friend as a spankee at some point too, but that's a different point.)
That being said, I don't expect to see it. Drooaygah has had ample oppertunity to deliver justice to his younger creation, and has quite pointedly not done so. I believe the unfairness of it is a major element in Drooaygah's theme, and as much a part of Cynthia's humiliation as the spankings themselves. To Drooaygah, I'm sure spanking the little sister would serve in a way to undercut the existing themes and situation he has created. In short, it is against his interest. I fully support Drooaygah's right to maintain his artistic integrity and make the images HE wants, not what we may want to see of him. (Not intending to imply that anyone else does not.) However, if the little brat gets her comeuppance I will be celebrating from the rooftops. -LBK |
| Name: | N |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I was looking through your galleries and I was astonished by the quality of some of the exhibits until I saw one entry which recognised as a photograph. I don't have any photographs now, I don't even have the same computer so I am totally clean. The exhibit I recognised as a photograph was of a young girl (sorry I didn't note the gallery number) who was getting the hair brush, the engraving on the back of the hair brush is imprinted on the girls left buttock, her face full of terror has been turned towards the camera. This is a photograph of an actual spanking!!! It could have been traced or copied but it is identical in such detail that I think it is a photograph altered by software to look like a drawing. There are a lot more of the same quality and I suspect that they are also digitally altered photographs. Before anyone jumps on me I am not proud of once owning these pictures, in fact I became so sick of myself I destroyed the pictures and the computer.
[HandPrince replies: There are literally thousands of images on Handprints. If there is a problem with an image, please give me the image's filename and which gallery it is in.] |
| Name: | anony |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | N:
You are probably referring to the work of Lee Warner. As explained elsewhere in the Guestbook (if you read way back), yes, these are based on photographic material. But the material is photo-composites. That means, assembled from different pictures. The hairbrush, child's body, child's face, spanker's body, and all that, all come from different sources. In many of these there was not even a photo of any child, but an adult body morphed to childish proportions. The joints were covered over in the drawing process to make it look quite realistic. But if you inspect carefully you will see that it is artificial. No real child was hurt in any way in the production of this material. Like everything else on Handprints, it is an artistic realization of a fantasy (that is, unreal) situation. |
| Name: | someone |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Then the picture you saw was either of an adult (made to look like a child) or from a movie or stock image. Lee Warner has never used pictures of real children getting real spankings for his drawings. If you're even talking about that drawing. If you don't even know which gallery or picture it is from, there is no point in even discussing it further. Plus, you're not exactly doing yourself a favor by posting the fact that you had real pictures on here. That's borderline reason to have your post removed.
[HandPrince replies: I won't kick someone off of the Guestbook simply for admitting that they used to own actual child spanking photos in the past. If someone asks others to send them such photos, or claims to have such photos to share, though, they are out of here. No second chances. This is a 100% legal art/fiction fantasy site only.] |
| Name: | Annemarie |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | One of the reasons I wrote my small story, was to stop negative discussions. It spoils this board. If you feel uncomfortable by the realism of Lee Warner's manipulations and composites (I do, too), nobody forces you to open his files. Please refrain from negative comments.
For handprince: we were strictly educated, but at ages 6 or more spanking was the punishment of punishments and rarely but severely applied, certainly to girls. I tried to explain why mother spanked me. It was no fair punishment: it was a "sweet revenge" for what I had done to her, for the fear I caused her, for the terror of losing another child. She was a sweet soul who rarely punished, but once she started, she found it difficult to stop. For reasons unknown, I was not angry, not at all (which I usually was when punished: punishment seemed always unfair...). I remember just this overwhelming feeling of great "sorriness". [HandPrince replies: Thank you Annemarie for your reply. Well, I still think your mother was too hard on you. Even if I believed in spanking real life children, I don't think I would agree with doing it out of "sweet revenge" as opposed to discipline for the child. You said once your mother started spanking she found it hard to stop. Was she disciplined differently as a child than you were? I wonder if once she started giving you a rare spanking something kicked in in her psyche and she reenacted what was once done to her(?) Is there an image on Handprints which reminds you of this incident? If so, please email me the filename and I will add the image to your story.] |
| Name: | Lee Warner |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | N:
The drawing you seem to refer to, with the image of a hairbrush imprinted on a rump, was indeed drawn from a photo-composite. Apparently you have seen the photo-composite itself. You might have to look fairly closely to see the joints. My photo-composites should not be passed around, since there may be civil-law problems of privacy and copyright with the images that were taken off the internet and reworked. FWIW, the imprint looks realistic because I smacked my own thigh with the hairbrush, photographed it, and Photoshopped the imprint onto the rump, a very time-consuming process since I had to match the skin tone all around the periphery. [HandPrince replies: Thanks Lee, for clearing this up. Everyone: in the future if you see a problem - any kind of problem - with an image on this site, please report it either here or in an email to me. But I will at least need the filename of the image, and the gallery number if possible.] |
| Name: | Elly (rerun) |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Spanking (la fessée) in France
(an investigation of the UNION of the FAMILIES in EUROPE carried out into 2006/2007 among 685 grandparents, 856 parents and 776 children in France. (In French, results to be found on their website uniondesfamilles.org). A cartoon illustrates the survey with two parents and two children in our beloved interaction. The boy says: do you think they have got them? The girl answers: Surely not enough. (Note that dad is doing the boy and mother doing the girl) http://www.ouest-france.fr/La-fessee-est-toujours-pratiquee-et-admise/re/actuDet/actu_3639-476389-----_actu.html ![]() The three generations all received spankings: 95% of the grandparents, 95% of the parents and 96% of the children. The spankings came mainly from their parents. 52% of the grandparents (58% boys, 46% girls), 39% of the parents (50% boys, 27% girls) and 34% of the children (37% boys, 30% girls) have been spanked by a third party, at school, or other family members. 62% (grandparents), 64% (parents) and 55% (children) found that they were (largely) deserved (this increased to over 60% among older children). 7% of grandparents, 9% of parents and 9% children considered that they have been punished not enough, 34%, 25% et 22% too much. For more than 78% from the grandparents and 62% of the parents, the spankings they gave were (largely) deserved. A good spanking was adapted to the age of the child, had to hurt without being cruel, had to stop the mounting tension between child and adult and had to be an effective deterrent, in the sense that the need for more punishment declined after a spanking. All agreed that “a good spanking” had to be rare. 65% of the children consider that by spanking them, their parents seek to raise them. 35% think that parents also want to vent their anger in the punishment. 77% of the parents consider spanking educative, 28% admit also venting their anger. 64% of the children will raise their own children as they were, 22% less severe, 14% more severe (but 18% of older children would raise their children more severely). 26% of the children want more spankings in education (for the other, poorly educated children off course). Children that would be less severe in their education, would not ban all spanking, but would give less spankings on the bare bottom (many notes), not use the brush or martinet or limit the number of strokes. 27%, 34% and 37% of the grandparents, parents and children want to forbid spanking by law. But even these often want to make a difference between corporal punishment and “a spanking” (understood: by hand), which is not considered a corporal punishment. |
| Name: | Cold Stone (rerun) |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | The Washington Post, Feb 6, 1935
New York, Feb. 5 (AP) Sound spankings, preferably administered in a burst of anger still constitute the best form of child-training in the studied opinion of Mrs. John S. Reilly, socially prominent author and lecturer. Herself the mother of seven, Mrs Reilly asserted she had examined the data of modern psychologists and child experts - and found them wanting. In addition to insisting on spankings, she added, the old-fashioned hair brush should remian a vital part of parents's equipment in rearing their children. Without it being applied liberally, Mrs. Reilly said, children grow into "brats." "There is no age limit," she asserted. "Spanking is a good idea because it keeps children in touch with reality. Modern upbringing, in which children are allowed to do whatever they want, is very unfair to them." Disagreeing with many child specialists, Mrs. Reilly advocates spankings administered "with a good, honest rage about them." "I agree with Shaw," she observed, "that you should never spank except when in anger. Of couse, I don't believe in brutal beatings, but spanking in the place the Lord meant for it, with a touch of zest, harms no child and does lots of good to most youngsters. Normal mothers can be trusted to spank without injuring their children. "If you spank early enough, you establish your discipline and it continues of itself. there will be some outbreaks to be corrected later, but not as often." By "early" Mrs. Reilly said she meant any time after a year and a half. "It's the only language every child understands," she added. The wife of a former Yale University baseball player, Mrs. Reilly is the mother of three boys and four girls ranging in age from 5 to 15 years. She rears them all upon the hairbrush. "They're a happy, hearty, gay lot of children, too, and not a bit subdued," she said. "There is a tendency today to spoil children, but I find lots of mothers who feel the same way I do about spanking. There is a large and fervent demand to get back to the old common sense." |
| Name: | HandPrince (rerun) |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | In the pilot episode (1996) of the television series, "Poltergeist: The Legacy," among the major characters introduced are Dr. Rachel Corrigan, played by Helen Shaver:
![]() ...and her seven year old daughter, Kat, played by Alexandra Purvis: ![]() For whatever reason, the writers lost very little time in letting viewers know that Dr. Corrigan, despite being a mental health professional, nevertheless believes in spankings as discipline for her daughter. Early in the first episode, mother and daughter are in a graveyard in Ireland visiting the graves of Father and Son who both died in a car accident. While Mom Rachel is preoccupied, Daughter Kat believes she hears her brother's voice calling to her. (Actually it's an evil demonic spirit imprisoned in a box by Druids centuries ago, telepathically calling Kat from its box which is in a curio shop a block away from graveyard). Urgently heeding what she thinks is her dead brother's call, little Kat runs off without her mother's permission and heads straight into the curio shop. When Rachel realizes Kat has vanished she frantically runs down the street calling Kat's name and discovers her daughter kneeling on the floor in front of the ancient locked box which has so fascinated and called to her. Rachel, nearly hysterical with worry, scolds Kat, and sounds just "this far" from promising her a spanking. ![]() But Kat keeps talking in a sweet sad voice about her dead brother and about how the box reminds her of him, and one observes the critical moment pass as Rachel's urge to spank dissipates. Rachel gives Kat a huge hug and holds her there while they exhange a couple more of lines. Rachel squeezes Kat harder and says, "I should put you right over my knee right now!" and although it is below camera view, one can hear a sharp little swat on Kat's bottom for emphasis. [O:24] In an nice bit of acting by actress Alexandra Purvis, Kat draws away from her mother's bosom just far enough to look askance at Rachel's facial expression as if to check and see if Mom really might do it, ('Mom's... just... SAYING that... right?'), ![]() then returns to the full embrace after verifying that Mom wasn't really going to spank her right there in the store, and very likely not at all. So although there is no onscreen spanking, and although the "threat" is a very mild one, viewers are clearly supposed to get the idea that actual spankings of Kat by Rachel do occur. One gets the feeling that if Kat's character had been sassy instead of sweet and had said, "Oh yeah?? You wouldn't DARE!" Rachel's character might well have dared. (In my fantasy outtake, Rachel marches Kat straight back to their hotel room and...) (Would any artists like to give this one a try?) When I first saw this show on television, I was startled by a spanking reference on a program of such current vintage. I expected that the fact that viewers were being told that Dr. Rachel Corrigan believes in spanking her little daughter would turn out to have some later plot significance. The pilot episode concludes, like far too many other episodes of this rather mediocre series, with wind blowing stuff around and characters shouting their lines at each other. In this instance, little Kat has the key to the box with the last of five demonic spirits who will plunge the world into everlasting Evil if it can be unlocked. Rachel is under the power of a demonic spirt who has made her think he is her dead husband, Kat's father. Rachel is screaming at Kat to hand over the key and when I first saw the program I thought to myself, "Ah! So here is where she threatens to spank Kat if her daughter doesn't do as she's told and hand over that key and plunge the world into everlasting Evil like a good girl." But to my puzzlement and disappointment, the threat was never made. The writers unfortunately let an opportunity pass. Kat's reaction to such a threat - whether she submitted and handed over the key to her mother, or defiantly refused - would have "built character," telling viewers more about mother and daughter and their relationship. And for pervs like me, Kat's facial expression when she sees Mommy threatening her with a spanking and actually meaning it this time would provide information about how hard Rachel spanks. ;-) ![]() As if to emphasize Rachel's traditional views on childrearing, throughout the series, Kat is shown dressed in distinctly conservative looking, often preppy-ish outfits, suggesting a privileged but at least semi-strict, old-fashioned upbringing. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() And in case viewers have forgotten that Rachel is a spanking Mom, Episode 9 of the first season serves as a reminder. In this episode, it is Kat's first day at her new boarding school for girls. ![]() Kat approaches a group of girls and asks if she may join them at play. The most dominant girl of the group replies that Kat first must be "initiated." When Kat asks what this involves, the girl picks up a flexible switch just right for tanning a seven year old bottom and in a threatening tone, while waving the switch suggestively, says Kat will find out in ten seconds so she had better run. ![]() Kat flees with the group of girls in pursuit. She finds herself in a grove of low trees when she meets a mysterious eight year old (played by Coleen Renison) who is definitely out of uniform: dressed in Egyptian robes with an ancient Egyptian style haircut and Nefertiti makeup. ![]() "Who are you?" asks the bewildered Kat. "I'm your new best friend," replies the Ka spirit of a long dead Egyptian princess unable to find her way to Osiris's fields, "Leave everything to me!" To make a short story shorter, the princess, whom only Kat can see, calls up some Pharoanic magic which tosses the switch wielding girl to the ground so violently that the elbow on her switching arm is dislocated. ![]() Kat gets blamed, of course, and explains that her invisible, magic new friend did it, not her. But of course the school authorities don't believe her. And since it appears that this school does not have a corporal punishment policy, (or perhaps because Rachel didn't sign a liability waiver allowing Kat to be paddled at school?), they suspend Kat for a week, and none other than Spanking Mom Rachel herself gets called in. Kat is in big trouble, and after speaking to the principal, Rachel and Kat have some alone time... ![]() Rachel scolds Kat, but not too severely due to Rachel's concern that she hasn't spent enough quality time with Kat lately and that Kat's "imaginary friend" and behavioral troubles at school might therefore be Rachel's own fault. So Kat won't get put over Rachel's knee... this time. However, Kat doesn't get off the hook entirely. Rachel orders Kat to write apology notes, both to the girl with the injured switching arm elbow, and to the principal of the school. Kat reluctantly agrees, and Rachel says, "Better attitude... let's go" and sends Kat off with an onscreen and audible smack on the seat of Kat's school uniform. [0:11] ![]() From the standpoint of the plot, it was a little too sharp to be a "love pat," but not enough to actually hurt. I would call it an "I mean it young lady! Write those letters or there can be more and realer ones where THIS one came from!" kind of swat. But from the standpoint of the actual making of the episode, I would call it a "swat soft enough so that an indignant little Alexandra Purvis doesn't refuse to do a Take 2 of the scene if necessary" kind of swat. However, I am perhaps reading too much in to this. At the very end of the episode, after the little Egyptian ghost has been sent off to Osiris's spirit world rather than taking over Kat's body, Rachel and Kat are horsing around and Rachel gives Kat a playful swat nearly as robust as the first one. [0:42] (In the alternative version available only in my imagination, the Egyptian princess ghost never appears, the gang of mean schoolgirls catches Kat and bends her face down over a big fallen tree trunk. Then they "initiate" her in the way viewers were pretty much led to imagine they would. Oh yes, and of course, Kat later stamps her foot and yells at Rachel "NO! I WON'T WRITE ANY STUPID APOLOGY LETTERS!" And Rachel says, "You certainly WILL write them, young lady! But FIRST I'm going to do what I SHOULD have done in that curio shop back in the Pilot Episode and put YOU right over my knee right now!" and then follows through). The first season of this series is out on DVD, which enabled me to rent it and rewatch my two favorite episodes. Unfortunately, the show itself wasn't all that great. Yet back in '96 I sat through every episode of the first season hoping for more spanking stuff. Kat and Rachel are in other episodes, but no more swats or "put you over my knee right now" threats. (Oh yes, there was one scene with Rachel, Kat, and a hairbrush. But it was only used to brush hair. Oh well. Rachel's hairbrush is quite spankworthy though - just the right size and shape for spanking a fictional little girl like Kat. So in the outtakes from this series available only in my imagination, this brush does double duty!) ![]() |
| Name: | John Doe |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Hello Handprince!!! First, I wanna congratulate you for ten years if handprints. Secondly, my favorite drawing on the site was of the Animaniacs being spanked. Sadly, I cannot find it anymore. Do you know under what category this picture is in?
[HandPrince replies: I must confess I wouldn't recognize the "animaniacs" if I saw them. Presumably the image would have been in a "various artists" drawings gallery. However, I don't believe I have taken down any such image, so perhaps you are just missing it.] |
| Name: | Ben |
| E-mail address: | bendover@spanking-report.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Love the art work, but damn this site layout sucks... I am guessing it has not been updated in 3 years. really need to work on the navigation and make it so you can read the text. Would take like one day. love the are but I am not coming back until you put sometime in fixing it up. Get help if you need it.
[HandPrince replies: If you are having trouble reading the text, click on "View" on your browser window and you will be able to adjust the text size to make it larger for you. As for the layout of the site, although the site is large, the layout is pretty simple. Perhaps if you explained under what circumstances you find yourself having difficulty getting where you want to go, that might help.] |
| Name: | LBK |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Ben,
We're holding you to that. Please do not come back until there is significant site change. Hopefully that won't be anytime soon if it keeps whiners like yourself out. -LBK |
| Name: | jim |
| E-mail address: | agotkl1@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | If the guy is having trouble with the navigation he must be coming from one of the old links i find them every once in a while and yes they are the ones where it zones out after a few minutes and i even think the last gallery was # 105 so i can see how it would look like it has not been updated in several years. That being said i would like to thank handprince for maintaining the site and all the effort he does put into it and i do think the navigation is great as well as the selectionso thanks again HP and keep up the great work!
Jim [HandPrince replies: the "old" site was on geocities, and all geocities sites have now been taken down by yahoo. I am very interested in knowing if there are any "ghost" pages of Handprints still out on the web. Have you run across such a page recently, like in the past month? Everyone, if you want to be sure you are looking at the current version of Handprints, go to the bottom of this page and click on "Back to the Handprints Spanking Art & Stories Page."] |
| Name: | Henrik Unné |
| E-mail address: | henrik.unne@comhem.se |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I am a 55-year old Swedish male. I discovered that I was a spanko on my 6th birthday. My Kindergarten teacher asked me playfully - "Henrik, since it is your birthday, do you want a birthday kiss or a birthday spanking?" When I heard the words "birthday *spanking*" I got a peculiar feeling between my legs. I did not understand what the feeling was, but it was wonderful. I understand now that it was sexual arousal that I felt, for the first time that I can remember in my life. And it was just because I heard the word "spanking"! I am still, 49 years later, fascinated by the subject of spanking.
I am now happily married to Thi, a wonderful woman who is an immigrant to Sweden from Vietnam. I love Thi, despite the fact that she is a vanilla, and she is even a bit scared by my interest in corporal punishment. She thinks that it just hurts, and is not pleasant at all. My favorite images on The Handprints are the ones by George Churchward. They seem so realistic and yummy! |
| Name: | spanklover |
| E-mail address: | sweetlilpanties10@yahoo.co.uk |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Hi message for Lee Warner would you consider doing some private commission work? Happy to pay whatever (with reason!!) as I adore your work and would love to get more. Hope to hear from you
Thanks :) [HandPrince replies: Lee Warner has totally retired from spanking art. Until such time as he announces that he is coming out of retirement, please don't make these kinds of requests. Thanks.] |
| Name: | George Metzger |
| E-mail address: | themetz300ca@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I was glad to find your page on the internet after yahoo closed that site down. Never thought to enterthe name into the internet. Wish I could learn to draw like that |
| Name: | sledge2071 |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I shudder to think of the nightmarish nursing home Droo's Cynthia is going to dump her parents when she gets power of attorney. |
| Name: | Rob |
| E-mail address: | bnabtrob@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Geeeeee !!!! Drooaygah your last pice of art work look's a lot like a target add on tv :) Maybe yes LOL. |
| Name: | Screamer |
| E-mail address: | -------------- |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Happy new year!!
Hi, I,m surprised that the trafic at this Dreambook is so low now. I guess since that infamous Russian site dissapeared, hopfully permanently, the topics have dulld off, or run out. hehehe.. No actually I loved the Christmas confession picture, and can only say it like that... She had it comming. Well I for one am happy that Handprints is still up and running fine. Keep upp the good work in 2010!!! Best wishes to all! |
| Name: | LBK |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Screamer,
I think the current lull is not just because of that other site finally getting shut down again. There was traffic here before that site was a topic of conversation. Also, not much of the traffic ever has been about that other site, just a few blips. I'm guessing it is seasonal, family is visiting, and everyone is afraid of getting caught on this site :) Also, HP has stated he won't be on for a while, so nobody is going to check the what's new page, and staying for the guestbook. Well I just did, but the season is winding down. We'll have more action here soon. I'm just willing to bet. -LBK |
| Name: | Rogue-kun |
| E-mail address: | boyzbeingboyz.webmaster@gmail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://boyzbeingboyz.com |
| Comments: | The Brief outage of Handprints and Boyz Being Boyz was not doe AnimeOTK's server transition (we are on a separate server) but the hosting server has a brief 'Storage Error' but we are back up now 8)
So no need to Drag Handprince back from his holiday 8) |
| Name: | Grunt |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | What ever happened to Ann Madison?? I haven't seen any new artwork of hers in ages. Does anybody know? |
| Name: | Drooaygah |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Ann Madison vanished without a trace several years ago. According to some who knew her online, she was making some major life changes and it is believed (by some anyway) that she chose to retire from spanking art and is living happily ever after.
She's definitely one of the classic original spanking artists. I'm sorry I never got to exchange e-mails with her |
| Name: | D |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I was reviewing the Sapnking Bibliography website and came across this interesting entry -- the one form page 256 would be embarrassing:
Windsor, Linda, TEXAS LOVESTORM, Zebra Heartfire, 1991 pp. 180: Laura gets a painful slap on her upraised buttocks by Major Wade McCulloch. pp. 228: After she whips his rump with a rope, he comes very close to really giving her a spanking, proper. He chickens out, like a wimpy hero should. pp. 245: Laura talking to her brother mentions that Wade's punishments are wonderful, then tries to cover her slip of tongue. What is meant by "punishments" is left open.... maybe Wade spanks her in private, outside of view of readers. NAW! |
| Name: | LR |
| E-mail address: | LR@anon.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Posted for the first time anywhere:
A spanking scene from a rarely seen Hollywood movie- Patti Hale - Always In My Heart (1942) 001 http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/comedy/watch/v19688346QejmSqzR# Same movie (just a love tap)- Patti Hale - Always In My Heart (1942) 002 http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/comedy/watch/v19688443t4MC8s8w |
| Name: | Leo |
| E-mail address: | liguista2002@terra.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Hi, I'm from Ecuador (South America), and I love watching the images of girls being spanked they deserve this and more, The best images for me, are the "pictures" of Lee Warner |
| Name: | Rob |
| E-mail address: | bnabtrob@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Hey leo i agree 100% i think that his stuff is great one of my fav's is gallery # 124 ( eve )view it and tell me if you feel the sameway.Rob |
| Name: | Martin |
| E-mail address: | Dmartinburns@aol.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I could not agree more with Bob. Lee's gallery 124 is superb. Nothing better than seeing a young girl getting hard spankings from her parents or guardians! |
| Name: | Rob |
| E-mail address: | bnabtrob@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | And with onlooker's to boot like a brouther neighborhood boy or girl,the embarrassment of it all striped naked with no place to hide or cover up. |
| Name: | LBK |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | HP, are you or Ai familiar with bittorrent? I notice there are problems with bandwidth, and I wonder if a "download this whole site via bittorrent" and "download last update" link on this site or a "download galleries" "download last 15 days" and "download clips" on animeotk and diaperedanime. This would allow the users of the site to use their own bandwidth to distribute content with only minimal .torrent files hosted localy. I know many local users would not switch over to the bt protocol, but everyone who does would be able to download a tiny .torrent file instead of massive amounts of media. |
| Name: | LBK |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | The other sites Ai hosts I don't know about their layout to know where the bt links should go. |
| Name: | Anonymous |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I like the torrent idea and I would be perfectly willing to seed the contents of this site. |
| Name: | Rogue the Bronze Firelizard |
| E-mail address: | boyzbeingboyz.webmaster@gmail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://boyzbeingboyz.com/ |
| Comments: | Bittorrent would use a lot more site bandwidth. but the hosts would have continually seed it, else various different torrents would die off. and each torrent would need to transfure the full thing, instead the limited area the view loaded via the web. Which means even more bandwith per user.
This ignoring the entire lack of easy of use. Would you honest download LARGE files with very little clue what's in them? Torrents are great for software, and patch updates like Warcraft, But horrible for image galleries. |
| Name: | anotanon |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I agree that trying to do everything with torrents would be impractical. The number of torrents would become a mess over time if each update would result in a new torrent, and the duplication would create another mess if the updates are merged together into larger packages.
On the other hand, I think making torrents of the galleries that have already been completed available would be useful if there are people willing to seed them reliably. Torrents require waiting longer to look at what's been downloaded, but the waiting can occur in the background while the user is doing other stuff. Once torrents finish downloading, looking through them with an image viewer program is significantly quicker and easier than looking through the same images using a Web interface - especially for Internet connections that aren't especially fast (such as economy-priced DSL connections). And for people who would like to have their own copies of more than just a few files, downloading a torrent would be much easier than right-clicking "Save Image As" on picture after picture. All it takes is either moving/copying the pictures a person wants to keep to a different folder or deleting the ones a person doesn't want to keep. The best approach might be to set up torrents of about half a dozen galleries each. For older galleries, where applicable, the sets could consist of galleries by the same artist or artists whose work is similar enough to seem likely to interest the same people. For galleries that are currently in progress, a torrent could be created whenever half a dozen or so galleries are deemed complete. That wouldn't save bandwidth from people looking at the latest updates, but it could save bandwidth from newcomers who want to look at a bunch of pictures and from old hands who want to look back at a bunch of pictures. Another option might be to make the same packages that are in the torrents also available on one or more of the file sharing services (Rapidshare, DepositFiles, and so forth). That would make the packages available to people who don't use torrents and aren't especially interested in learning. And some people would rather use a file sharing service than torrents if given a choice. |
| Name: | LBK |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Rogue the Bronze Firelizard, I would, and do, download bittorrents much larger than the size of a gallary without knowing what all I will be getting. I download fansub animes in the gigabytes without knowing if I will like the show. I download software to try it out.
⁂ I am having trouble understanding your assertion "Bittorrent would use a lot more site bandwidth" Even assuming we have a local tracker, the majority of data transfer in a bittorrent swarm goes directly host to host. Minimal data goes through the tracker. Compare to traditional http downloads, which we are currently using, and 100% of the data is transferred from the server. If users regularly seed torrents, which is not an improbable situation the server would need only send insignificant amounts of traffic for the bt download. I do not pretend that we will be able to transfer over completely to bt. I do not even expect that the majority of the traffic will become bittorrent. But if even 10 percent of current downloads become bittorrent traffic, there will be less bandwidth strain. I do not know if we can get an open tracker to host our content or not. If we can, we wouldn't have to worry about the increased cpu load of running a tracker. |
| Name: | Rogue the Bronze Firelizard |
| E-mail address: | boyzbeingboyz.webmaster@gmail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Downloading an anime fansubs that you know nothing about is bogus, because there are LOTS of site out there that give information about what either the series as a whole is about or what each episode is about. and most people have gon there LONG before they the go looking for a BT to download.
As to WHY it take MORE bandwidth is because UNLESS you have a very good seed:user ratio most the transfuse IS NOT going on host to host. but it does cut down from the striage server download model, FORE LARGE file like software and video. BUT in a Gallery model the server is not severing up the inter collection to each visitor on each visit. But with the torrents of collection you have to serve up the WHOLE collection each visitor per visitor, the saving you get form peer to to is more than lost but in increase amount their visitor need to download. IF you split the torrent up to smaller coullections to counter this, you loss seeds, so for a tiny tiny saveing in bandwith you lose useibleit, which meas you LOSE visters , which means you lose more seeds, and the sight dies |
| Name: | LBK |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I am having difficulty keeping proper friendly debate tones here, and if I fail, I apologize in advance. However, I find it frankly astonishing that you seem to think you know how I handle my downloads. I want to therefore make this very clear. There is nothing bogus about what I have claimed. I did not lie, misrepresent my position and am in full command of my facilities. Your calling my statement that I download fansubs with little knowledge of what is in them "bogus" seems to imply otherwise. I realize we are getting somewhat sidetracked here, so I will attempt to be brief, if it is not already way to late for that. I am very likely to download "most downloaded" series on several sites, most notably animesuki. Although I see a brief description of the series (often less than a paragraph) I generally download new things because they are new. I do not visit all the sites that tell me about them, because of how poorly most sites avoid spoilers. Now that I have finished explaining why I am not the liar you claimed I am, let's get back to relevant business.
I will agree that for very small files, bt will not give significant bandwidth gains. Your most significant gains will be for collections or major updates. I disagree with your assessment of the need for a high seed:user ratio. So long as you have at least two simultaneous peers in the swarm the bt seed will upload different packets to each one, then allow them to share the packets requiring the original seed to send less than two full copies out for a result of two full copies on downloaders' computers. Yes, efficiency scales up greatly beyond two users, but bt is efficient even for very small numbers of peers and very small numbers of seeds. I am afraid I do not understand your logic on the site's death. Considering the current problems are because of excessive use of the site, your doomsday prediction of the site's death due to underuse seems fairly unlikely. It is possible, I did not make myself clear on the onset. I am not proposing bt become the only way that these files be made available, simply having an alternate bt link for people wanting the entire archive. If users do not avail themselves of this feature, nothing has changed, all site usage is still through http protocol. If, however, a significant percentage of users switch and use bt instead, the server loads can be shifted from being dependent on the centralized server, and can be spread among the swarm of users. |
| Name: | Rogue the Bronze Firelizard |
| E-mail address: | boyzbeingboyz.webmaster@gmail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://boyzbeingboyz.com/ |
| Comments: | LBK, I did not call you a lair, I said your point was bogus. And a said why, and you proved it. You said you liked at the blurb, to get some idea, basically i read that as make sure it not a topic you have zero interest in. Yes your looking for something news, BUT you admired you chose basic on the BT equivalent of the nelson ratings, the most downloaded list.
The fact you said you keep to the must downloaded list means your are experience biased to consent turn of seeding, where the struggle to get people to at least keep the share ration at 1.0 is working. People avoid torrents with low seed count unless the KNOW what in the file is something they want, if it boarder line they will stay away from it. People only returns to site they see value in return to, or for some people, site they see have potential to grow. But Gallery sights like AnimeOTK, Handprints and BBB, live or die on people /seeing/ the site has thing the want. Bit-torrent hides from people the information they use to. With out the blurbs or the the most downloaded lists. And it not Bandwidth that was the issue behind AnimeOTK's need to update, it was Server usage, A CPU with more cores, and even more RAM to handel the number of requests was the big concern, Growing pains. |
| Name: | LBK |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | You told me people downloading not knowing what was in a file is bogus. I said I did it frequently. Somehow you twisted that into an affirmation of your point. I even see your logic. However, for sites such as the ones run by Ai, you will already have a MUCH more narrowly focused genre of media than I ever download. I would have a MUCH better idea of what I am getting downloading a HP torrent than I ever do when downloading a series or episode.
However, this part of the argument boils down to an attempt to predict the habits of other people. I will not pretend to know how everyone operates, just how I do. I still maintain that my own habits lend one counterexample to your original point, but cannot say that my usage is representative of the HP population at large. Although I still think I am right, I am withdrawing from this part of the argument as I believe it is detracting from the more relevant part of the argument. I am sorry I took offense on calling my point bogus, I had thought you were calling my story of my own habits bogus, not the point I was making with it. Let me be a little more clear with my arguments. I 1. There are public bittorrent trackers that would likely host any legal content. 2. If there was a bittorrent link at the bottom of galleries (after thumbnails, before full downloads) or a download entire site snapshot bitorrent link, either: a. People would use the bittorrent in place of repeated regular hits to the server (next page over and over if nothing else) or b. People would not use the bittorrent in place of repeated regular hits to the server. 3. If people do not use the bittorrent links, no change has occurred in the server's load or bandwidth load. 4. If people do use the bittorrent links instead of the regular links, the entire work of getting images to the site users computers would require very little cpu usage on the server site and less bandwidth than a direct download, assuming even a single seeder. 5. Therefore there is a potential gain to the use of bittorrent use as expressed in cpu usage and bandwidth to Ai's servers and next to no risk to CPU or bandwidth usage. (There is the risk that the implementation will take excess time and not solve any problems.) II 1. Current problems are either bandwidth or CPU related. 2. The above solution may have gains in the terms bandwidth and cpu utilization. ∴ The use of bittorrent is a potential minimal risk solution to the issues caused by over utilization of the sites hosted on Ai's network. I believe the above argument is sound, may I ask specifically which points you have objection to, or is there an error in my logic connecting them? |
| Name: | LBK |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | PS I have used many low-seed torrents before. I did not get fast speeds (only around 100k/sec), but downloaded in the background so did not have an issue. Bittorrent scales down very well. The only issue with small swarms is that the limitations of individual peers in the swarm are more noticeable and people who throttle their own upload will be more likely to change the speed of the swarm as a whole. |
| Name: | Egranbyguy |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | After reading these last few posts, I have to ask: What is happening to this site? |
| Name: | anotanon |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | What I'm writing below is based on my actual experience downloading collections of pictures, not just abstract theory.
When a person first discovers Handprints, he is faced with more than a hundred galleries. Each gallery has thumbnails, but the thumbnials are small enough to make it difficult to reach a definitive conclusion about how good the pictures are. So if the person wants to be reasonably certain of not missing anything interesting, he has to download a significant majority of the site one picture at a time. That, in turn, requires an awful lot of clicking on thumbnails and clicking "back." And especially on an economy-priced DSL connection, there is a noticeable delay loading each picture. If torrents were available, new users who use bittorrent, or long-time users who want to revisit galleries they haven't looked at in awhile, would have the option of checking a couple pictures from each gallery to confirm that the gallery might be interesting and then initiating a download of the torrents the interesting pictures are a part of. That would cause a non-trivial reduction in bandwidth required from the server that hosts Handprints. Once the torrent is downloaded, the user could open the first picture in a gallery with the picture viewer that comes with newer versions of Windows, or with any of a number of third-party programs, and use the right-arrow key to go from one picture to the next however quickly or slowly he wants to. The time wasted on pictures he decides at a glance that he doesn't like would be a fraction of a second - probably faster than trying to look at a thumbnail to see if it's worth opening. And the delay waiting for images to load is essentially zero. Further, with the size of modern hard drives, some of the users who currently look back at the older galleries most often would - if they download the torrents in the first place - keep their downloaded torrents on their hard drives where they can look back at the pictures any time they want to without using up any of Handprints' bandwidth at all. It would be more convenient for them and save bandwidth at the same time. As I said, this is based on my actual experience, not just theory. The kind of HTML interface Handprince uses is good for looking at small numbers of pictures such as are included in typical updates. But if I'm looking through dozens or hundreds of pictures, I've found it much easier to download image collections through torrents or through Rapidshare/DepositFiles type services than to navigate HTML interfaces. |
| Name: | no1 |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I don't understand all the logistics of bitorrents. I mean, I only download torrents of movies and software and I've only done so a handful of times. There is no way I would download an entire gallery- esp if I did not even know what was in it and if there was anything I liked at all. I also don't like the idea of downloading large files or multiple files from sites like HP because of the potential privacy issues and that becomes more of a concern when using a PTP network/client/whatever it's called. (I don't know the exact technical terms, but I understand some of the basics of how it works.)
So anyway, I'm not sure I even understand what you are trying to talk about as far as bitorrents and the HP site. It might help if you explain (in basic terms) what the exact problem is as far as the HP site goes and how/why does it have anything to do with the other site (animeotk? I think. I don't know- I don't go there)? If it's just an HP problem or both or how are they connected? Are they both on the same server and if so, would changing one site to another server work? Now I'm confusing myself. |
| Name: | Rogue the Bronze Firelizard |
| E-mail address: | boyzbeingboyz.webmaster@gmail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://boyzbeingboyz.com |
| Comments: | No1, Ai hosts a number of website, most notably (as far as HP visitors are conserved) AnimeOTK and the Spanking Art Wiki on his primary server.
But Ai also proves the hosting for HP and Boyz Being Boyz on the backup-server for free. |
| Name: | radar38172 |
| E-mail address: | radar38172randy |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Ilike your website. |
| Name: | Ron Wilson |
| E-mail address: | ronwilsonrw@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I have known Handprints since 1996 or 7..... I do not remember exactly. He encourage me to start revising and even coloring my pitifully poor drawings. His critical and positive feedback helped me a lot. I have corresponded with him on and off over those years. Several thousand drawings later and I am still loyal to Handprints. I believe I know his heart. He provides a fantastic site. I defended him on several occasions and even had him deactivate my old galleries (I should have hung tough, as he did.....my loyalty outweighed my old marine's stand and fight instinct...Semper Fi.....) because he was under fire due to me (well over a decade ago). I provide my drawings free of charge and to lots of folks. I feel like I can weigh in on this issue.
I have found that folks who seek mass downloads, do so for purpose that are not conducive to community or even worse. They rarely thank you and once they complete their desired purpose, you rarely hear from them again. This site is an archive and a place where like-minded folks can come and look at individual pics.....over a period of years...... There is a difference between grazing and strip mining. A little respect for a man who has taken a lot of heat for this genre (for over a decade) is in order, in my humble opinion! Ron Wilson |
| Name: | katze |
| E-mail address: | katzenpaul1@aol.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | dear ron
very nice to here from you. i discovered the handprint site first time late 90th and since that time i join ones a week. from my point of view you are by far the best artist beside lee warner. your pics are simple great! i would love to see some new stuff from you. cheers from a fan ... |
| Name: | Emily W. |
| Homepage URL: | http://www.hoosickhistory.com/backyard/Biographies2001.htm |
| Comments: | The Life of Nana Mirski
By Emily Wilwol (4th grade) Harriet Shaw Bromirski was born on February 15, 1936 at her Fourth St. home in the small town of Hoosick Falls, NY. She was the daughter of Kenneth G. and Augusta E. Palmer Shaw. Kenneth worked as a truck driver for the Undergarment Corporation, which later became Barclay Home Products Company. Augusta was a homemaker who took care of Harriet and Harriet’s younger sister, Roberta. Harriet grew up quickly and enjoyed helping her mother with her younger sister and things around the house. When she was about 5 years old, it was time for Harriet to start school. She attended the Second Ward Elementary School in Hoosick Falls. Harriet loved school and loved to learn about new and exciting things. She loved to sew. She and her sister had chores to do around the house. They needed to do them before their father came home. Sometimes if they misbehaved or didn’t do their chores they were spanked with a twig from a lilac bush. Harriet, being the oldest, hated to see her younger sister get spanked, so sometimes Harriet took the spanking for her. They each had to get their own switch from the lilac bush and they better not comeback with a small one or they would be punished even harder. |
| Name: | no1 |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Hope everything's OK w/ HP. Looking forward to the next update.
[HandPrince responds: I, too, am looking forward to the next update, which obviously is long overdue. After getting back from the holidays, my computer died. A friend and I have put together a 64 bit Windows 7 system from parts, which took some time. Then I discovered that both the image processor and html editor programs I have always used for Handprints won't install in Windows 7. After trying a couple of other free html editor programs and finding them unsuitable, I downloaded an XP emulator program within which both my old image processor and html editor programs would work. Yesterday I was working on an update but discovered that any html page saved from within the XP emulator environment would have nonworking links. (Those who attempted to visit Gallery 156 for a brief period yesterday noticed that none of the thumbnails were visible and if you clicked on them, nothing happened.) Fortunately, I still had the old version backed up and put it back on the site again. So at this point I am looking for a simple, no frills html editor, preferably free, which will work with Windows 7 64-bit. Eventually I will get all this sorted out. Don't worry, Handprints isn't going away.] |
| Name: | D.Mackenzie |
| E-mail address: | d.mackenzie945@btinternet.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Brilliant Drawings |
| Name: | jblow2 |
| E-mail address: | smalk1@optonline.net |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | When are you guys going to get some new material? You`ve had the same stuff on you "What`s new?" page for 2 months already!! |
| Name: | no1 |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | What was the old html editor you were using on XP?
[HandPrince replies: Believe it or not, I was using Netscape Composer from Netscape 4.8. I've used it since Handprints first started in the 90's.] |
| Name: | Rogue the Bronze Firelizard |
| E-mail address: | boyzbeingboyz.webmaster@gmail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://boyzbeingboyz.com |
| Comments: | there are two Free HTML editors i would recommended
The first is PSpad for it superior UTF-8 and other encoding support. my Second suggestion is HTML-Kit due to it extensive short cut for HTML code support. |
| Name: | LBK |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | I usually just edit any code in notepad++ (a notepad like application with line counting, tab support, and syntax highlighting). However other people I know and/or work with use and like: Amaya, HTML-Kit, and Seamonkey Composer.
[Handprints replies: Thanks for recommending SeaMonkey. If you hadn't, the February 9th update wouldn't have happened.] |
| Name: | Rogue the Bronze Firelizard |
| E-mail address: | boyzbeingboyz.webmaster@gmail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://boyzbeingboyz.com |
| Comments: | I would point out that Netscape Composer was based on the Coder for Mozilla Composer, of which Seamonkey is the modern decedent there of. |
| Name: | no1 |
| Homepage URL: | http://thehandprints.com/ |
| Comments: | Also Amaya, KompoZer but I agree that it seems like Seamonkey Composer is your best bet. I don't know which ones you tried or if you know what ones would work. If you do know what software you would like ideally (even if it's not free) someone may be able to provide you a copy... |