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NAME Carol Bechtel

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 Surprise reading of this blog...keep it up. I am a major follower of court cases, especially Peterson East, Rabbi fred Nulander, Dirk, (Casual Guy 2000). and the hated Mr Westerfield...add to this our hometown story, Casey Anthoney. Rave On
DATE Saturday, January 28th 2012 - 03:53:45 PM

NAME KC

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 Wot a load of one sided trash. Michael Peterson is innocent and will get his justice and i will stand by and watch and laugh at all those who cant see read and accept the evidence and the truth for what it really is.
DATE Saturday, December 31st 2011 - 02:16:18 AM

NAME Vance

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 Different trial -- same murder.
DATE Sunday, December 18th 2011 - 09:48:27 PM

NAME RhythmBrown

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 Well...Michael Peterson has been released from prison. What are your thoughts?
DATE Thursday, December 15th 2011 - 05:11:46 PM

NAME vance@vanceholmes.com

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 Steven Finch:

I am horrified by your story. Please email privately if there is anything I can do.
DATE Thursday, August 25th 2011 - 06:35:16 PM

NAME incognito

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 I would like to say that this is a good site and I like your in depth approach to matters.Although the Duke LaCrosse case is in the past. what Crystal Mangum went through will never be over. After reading your timelime, I'm more than convinced that she was violated and by several of those Duke players. The sad part is that she continues to be violated by people who would rather make those guys innocent than for us to know her side of the story. Eventually, the truth will come out and money can't buy God.
DATE Saturday, August 13th 2011 - 07:12:57 PM

NAME steven finch

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 ive kept up with alot of different cases and didnt think to much about it ever happeningh to me but one day about 25 years ago my older brother david was shot and stabbed then thrown on the railroad tracks in seattle the police wont tell me if they ever found the guys that killed him or not even the govenor of wash.wont say anything as far as they care he was just another dumb indian and thats where the state of wash. left it at
DATE Tuesday, August 9th 2011 - 02:07:05 AM

NAME Vance Holmes

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 Garrett Odom:

I'm sorry you were forced to experience that kind of abuse. I hope you have been able to move on.

I'll never forget the case, Garrett.

Good Luck to you.
DATE Saturday, July 16th 2011 - 06:48:20 PM

NAME Javier

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 GREAT SITE the only case you're missing is CASEY ANTHONY
DATE Tuesday, July 5th 2011 - 10:21:24 PM

NAME Garrett Odom

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 And when I say her and my dad abused us, I'm saying Sandra and my Dad
DATE Thursday, June 16th 2011 - 09:48:03 PM

NAME Garrett Odom

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 Hi I am Garrett Odom.
Sandra Odom is guilty. She could not even get the facts straight. The events she said did not even happen in that order. She used to abuse Jarrett and I, She made both of us stay on that red hot porch all day. She decide to get in the pool and she told us to get in the pool. We got in the pool and as we did the water was two deep for us, we tried holding on the the side of the pool,she threw us under water. I remember that and waking up in the hospital. I wanted to know where Jarrett was. My mom told me that Jarrett passed. Her and my dad abused us. They would make us eat Grits with to much Hot Sauce and they would beat us if we did not eat it. And we had to share a little cup of water a day. And she did not just give us a cold bath, she stood on top of us when she did.
DATE Thursday, June 16th 2011 - 09:45:50 PM

NAME Cookie6446

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 Very interesting web site. Have bookmarked it as a "favorite".
DATE Friday, May 27th 2011 - 02:15:43 AM

NAME Lori H.

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 I just discovered your site and I've been reading thru the part about the Michael Peterson trial. Not only do I appreciate all the detail you have provided, but also your insightful ability to see thru the schemes of defense lawyers attempting to win acquittals for their sociopathic clients at any cost. I also love your wit and humor, and your frequent use of alliteration throughout. You take the boring out of documentaries. Sadly, it sounds like as a "parent", Michael Peterson has had a terrible influence on the character, ethics and morals of his kids. But I don't suppose a sociopath could do a very good job of raising DECENT kids. Anyway, keep up the good work. You are quite the "wordsmith". :)
DATE Monday, May 23rd 2011 - 11:30:58 PM

NAME Vance

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 Margerry Bakley:

Thank you so much. I sincerely wish you and yours all the best.
DATE Tuesday, May 3rd 2011 - 11:16:50 AM

NAME Vance

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 As for Maryann Boczkowski . . .

I have no information on the children. The last I heard, all the children had been adjusting remarkably well -- but that was years ago. I really hope they have been able to move on.
DATE Thursday, April 7th 2011 - 05:57:34 AM

NAME Margerry Bakley

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 Thank-you for seeing the forest even though the trees were in the way. Only wish you had been in LA in 2001, I could have really used an advocate.Keep up the good work and raw honesty, I rarely see in the written word these days.
DATE Wednesday, March 30th 2011 - 04:39:12 AM

NAME Linda

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 another young man found drowned after going out drinking ~ in Madrid.
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/08/body-of-us-student-missing-in-spain-found-in-river/
DATE Monday, March 14th 2011 - 03:29:27 PM

NAME Teresa Kuebbing Brush

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 Thinking about a former family friend. Maryann Boczkowski.. Went to church with her. My father sang in the choir with her at Nativity. Was wondering if you knew what happened to their children?
Jtbrush@gmail.com
DATE Saturday, March 5th 2011 - 10:12:14 PM

NAME john boy

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 i was in juvinile with alex king an he was a good sweet smart well mannered boy. i liked him as a person i belive that what he done was wrong but he is still human an i hope hes doing well
DATE Wednesday, December 1st 2010 - 04:24:19 PM

NAME Vance Holmes

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 Katie! It's wonderful to hear from you! I think of you often and it lifts my spirits. Hope all is well in your world.
DATE Sunday, November 28th 2010 - 10:48:01 AM

NAME katiecoolady

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 Hi Vance! Just flyin by and was doing a little "lookin in to" any updates on the Dirk Greineder case and landed here again! Always nice to read you...and I sincerely hope all is going fantastic in your world. I miss runnin in to you online. <3 :) <3
Katie
DATE Saturday, November 27th 2010 - 12:55:33 AM

NAME susief

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 nice
DATE Sunday, October 10th 2010 - 04:35:50 PM

NAME Erin

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 My heart and prayers go out to all the victims and their families.
DATE Sunday, June 6th 2010 - 03:57:05 AM

NAME Vance Holmes

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 Thank you, Dan. Thank you for caring and for posting updates. We're keeping an eye out.
DATE Thursday, March 18th 2010 - 01:50:19 AM

NAME Dan

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 Keep up the good work, just want to remind everyone that Sly McCurry - Superior WI, Eric Peterson - Lakeville MN, and Jon Lacina - Ames Iowa, are still missing!
DATE Wednesday, March 10th 2010 - 12:09:06 PM

NAME Gen

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 Hey, just FYI: the "don't know nothing about birthing no babies" line from Gone With the Wind was said by Butterfly McQueen (Prissy), not Hattie McDaniel (Mammy).

You have a great website! Fascinating.
DATE Saturday, March 6th 2010 - 10:43:24 AM

NAME Kris

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 The message sent by Paul Manson was mean, hateful, and a complete disregard for those out there trying to help the victims and their families. We are to believe that there is no such thing as a serial killer, oh dare not say the word and it might just go away. I seem to recall three names produced out of the ever so popular and safe Wisconsin state. Jeffery Dahmer is one and the approach of no problem really proved itself there with all those missing young men, found dead, at the hands and tools of Jeffery Dahmer, and it certainly was not for le finding him, it was an escapee of his that contacted authorities.Glad they didn't laugh this one off too. Two le officials sent a young boy, age 14 or 15 back to Jeffery Dahmer even though he was dazed, confused, bleeding, naked, and trying to run away, they brought him back to only be killed by Jeffery after believing him that it was a lover's quarrel. A young boy that they could have saved his life only to think of it as funny and sent him back to his death. Those two in le are to never be forgiven for their stupidity. Justice was not served as this too was swept under the rug along with all the missing young men at Jeffery's hands, remember they were not looking, the public was not informed, why was this? They were not female, they were not high and almighty officials sons? That's right no signs of foul play they were just missing. Gosh forbide if a young male, naked, bleeding, dazed, 14/15 age happen to be right in front of your sorry excuse for a life face, if they had been following any of the missing male cases this would have triggered a red flag with the other obvious red flag signs. They are disgusting, I can say that because fact from the case file, and I will never forget this story and what they did. Where was all our le while these missing young men was going on? Would not besides all of the obvious signs from a young boy bleeding, naked, dazed, running away, along with I would have hoped info. released on missing men from that area? Not done. Proven facts from this case alone that they do what they want to do without informing the public or a care and concern for others if they do not meet a specific look or type. I would have to believe that it would it been different if it had been a white female, age 15, naked, bleeding,dazed, and wandering away, that they would have found their serial killer that night. Again, le did not find Jeffery, they weren't looking in the first place, Jeffery had a male escape and he reported him, then only was it looked into. Like le was the star case crackers, WRONG. I have been following this site for many years, thank you for your effort and hard work put into it. I also follow Footprints At The River's Edge. Keep up the great work that you do on here, you have many supporters. I know that the Jenkins family appreciated all the help from non-le, shameful the way they were treated by Minneapolis le. 4 years it took them to find Chris's hair in his clentched fist and did not even have it analyzed the day he was found. They,le apologize 4 years later for their mistakes, and we are to have confidence in our justice system knowing murderer's are still out there roaming about freely, happy they got away with murder, nobody talks about that, le isn't the least bit concerned with murderer's moving about their precious Minneapolis waiting to strike again. They said it was murder yet nobody has been arrested, could it be said that all valuable evidence they should have been collecting during the time Chris's body was found would have been crutial to the case. They listed the mud/hair found in clenched fist as matter. Just a quote written by the killer in Duluth, you can't see what your not looking for. Paul Munson should know as a Criminal Justice person that the reason there isn't any evidence is because they are not looking for it, it is there through clues left by the killer, the body or lack of one, and hidden evidence, the crime scene that alone raises obvious red flags. LE needs to go outside the box and look beyond the ideal FBI profile of what a serial killer is, does, and looks like, guess what they don't want to be caught, obvious as we surpass the 10 year mark, so they will figure out a way to get by the system. Water washes away evidence, along with certain drugs that don't show up in the body after a time period, they are not even testing for a date rape drug that to me would apply to some of the cases due to EVIDENCE from talking to witnesses that some of the men had not drank alot and some not at all. It must cost too much to run tests or let's just rule drowning from the start and chalk it up to alcohol because why after 100 or more similar related deaths be the act of a serial killer.I wonder how many more of the no signs of foul play/ Chris Jenkins investigation or lack there of is going on in all these other cases. How many more had clenched fists with"matter" in them? What about the phone call from Josh Snell running and hiding from someone and that he was being followed and he was scared for his life. Josh was found drown in the water, Josh Snell was in Eau Claire Wisconsin. I highly doubt Mr. Munson that this individual had too much to drink running away and clearly stating his message of being followed on the phone and all the while hanging on to the phone while he feared for his life. Does that sound like no signs of foul play or just a junk pattern of alcohol induced play and act like you were frightened for your life game???? This is just one of many that have unaswered and not looked into questions. They can be ahead of the game because they have a beginning advantage with alcohol, places of estblishment that serve alcohol, l bars,taverns, frat parties,or parties that do not have alcohol but a gathering of sorts with friends and others and the intent to get the one they want away from their group of friends and use their means necessary for accomplishing another victom. I wonder if Mr. Munson has ever thought of a deviant holding a gun or using a form of mental torture to make a person drink more alcohol or forced to do things in order to save your life, like writing a suicide note , making phone calls but not letting you speak, wouldn't you think it odd when so many of these indiviuals make phone calls and they hang up without leaving a message? To drunk to talk?!? I wonder how then they were able to dial? You would do anything to save your life even if fooled into the choice they gave you. The public is of upmost help with any and all cases as reflected in the Jeffery Dahmer serial killer Wisconsin case because it sure wansn't le that solved that one, it was from the public/victim that got away from him. I am very thankful for these websites that keep the public informed and by spreading the word we can be kept aware of the dangers of going anywhere by yourself and night. You need to use care, concern, and above all logic when going out to drink. Friends need to be leaving together in groups. Report anything suspicious.
DATE Thursday, March 4th 2010 - 08:05:16 PM

NAME Katiecoolady

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 Hello my Darling Vance...how have you been doing? I just recently saw a retread of the Mike Peterson case on one of the crime shows. Wonder how his life is fairing and what scam he's working now. Are you writing about any trials anymore? I've not been following any for some time. I miss you!
DATE Thursday, February 18th 2010 - 11:44:41 AM

NAME Vance

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 Thomas Junta has never taken responsibility for his murder. The brutal killing of Michael Costin -- in front of his children -- and the on-going troubles of all of those involved with Junta, has been tragic.
DATE Tuesday, November 10th 2009 - 08:51:48 PM

NAME Cathy S

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 I really am intrigued by your website. I just watched an episode of Dateline ID, about Thomas Junta, hockey dad from hell. I googled his name to see if he had been parolled yet and I found your website. I pray that Thomas Junta spends every second of the ten years in prison! What a jerk, and what a waste of space on this planet!!
DATE Tuesday, November 10th 2009 - 07:47:50 PM

NAME Vance Holmes

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 Ms. Callender:

I honestly think you should have your head examined. As I told you in the response to your letter complaining about my opinions:

Victor Brancaccio is a cold-blooded killer.

My opinion is not going to change and your threats of a law suit are laughable.

Brancaccio battered an 81-year-old woman and beat her to death. He later covered her body in red spray-paint and -- for whatever reasons -- attempted to burn the senior citizen's pelvic area.

Ms. Callender, your client's murder is one of the worst -- if not THE worst -- I've ever covered.

You'll get no pity from the courts or the public, and you'll certainly get none from me. At this point, the best thing you could do for your friend Victor is have the good sense to stay quiet, stay out of the news and STAY OFF MY WEBSITE.
DATE Tuesday, October 20th 2009 - 02:13:50 PM

NAME Carrie S Callender, LL.B., LL.M

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 I honestly think if you don't know the accused/convicted or the victims, keep your opinions to yourself and off the internet. I'm a criminal prosecutor and you're doing much, much more harm than good with your website as you've cited a case extremely close to me.
DATE Saturday, October 17th 2009 - 05:59:41 PM

NAME Vance Holmes

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 I thank you all for the interesting and supportive comments.
DATE Thursday, September 24th 2009 - 04:04:35 PM

NAME Michelle

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 Great site Vance. Thanks for all you hard work. I'm also very curious to understand the minds of the types of people that could do these awful things. Thanks for providing extensive info to sift through to try and profile my own neck of the woods. As to your Einstein quote, I'm one of the helping people.

DATE Monday, September 14th 2009 - 12:10:38 PM

NAME Mr C

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 The evidence presented by the prosecution is flawed. No forensics in the duffel bag, none in the boat. No evidence the concrete anchors were used to weigh the body down. No crime scene, no cause of death and no weapon. This would be a joke if it were not for the fact, a man's life is in the balance.
Scott Peterson may be a jerk but no one has proved he is a murderer.
DATE Saturday, August 22nd 2009 - 12:51:39 PM

NAME Cindi Burkey

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 I like your notes about the Peterson case. My answer to your question about what is making our fellow countrymen so sick is simple: the nonstop, continuous practice of relating to other human beings through a phosphor-lit screen which transmits one way, into the brain, and does not allow for interaction: television.

DATE Saturday, August 8th 2009 - 05:20:53 PM

NAME David Melton

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 Hi Vance. always good to catch-up with you!
DATE Wednesday, July 8th 2009 - 02:53:43 PM

NAME alika

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 Hello Vance! Can't believe it's still happening in these parts. Milwaukee is about 3hr's from La Crosse.

Just thought I'd pass along this article:
Body Of UWM Senior Pulled From Milwaukee River
Bryan Barker Went Missing After Drunken Night
http://www.wisn.com/news/19985833/detail.html

God bless his family.
DATE Wednesday, July 8th 2009 - 08:51:54 AM

NAME Vance Holmes

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 Survivor:

Thank you for writing. I certainly hope you're able to get some help going forward.
DATE Saturday, June 20th 2009 - 12:57:46 AM

NAME victim of a violent crime who survived

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 hi vance great job i was attacked left for dead on a college campus my world has changed and been shattered true evil walks among college students and campuses all over hide crime stats and knowledge of the truth look within and you will solve a lot of unanswered questions
DATE Wednesday, June 17th 2009 - 05:03:53 AM

NAME John

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 Thanks for your poetic commentary on the Greineder case. Very interesting reading.
John - http://crimebuzz.blogspot.com

You may enjoy using resources linked to at this blog. Happy to link to your site, too.
DATE Saturday, April 25th 2009 - 04:14:41 PM

NAME Jess

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 Another missing male college student has been reported in St. Paul, Minnesota as of this week, April 5, 2009
DATE Monday, April 6th 2009 - 02:11:54 PM

NAME Melody

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 I saw something on Good Morning America about the Smiley Face Murders. About 80 cases of young men have been uncovered and are believed to be linked. Please investigate this.
DATE Monday, March 23rd 2009 - 08:31:13 AM

NAME Katiecoolady

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 Hi Vance! Long time no see..just popped over to see what you've got goin on here...gonna browse around a bit. Miss runnin in to ya online! xox katie
DATE Wednesday, March 11th 2009 - 10:01:50 PM

NAME Poetic*Justice

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 Happy Holidays, Katie -- and Season's Greetings to all.
DATE Friday, December 26th 2008 - 07:35:48 PM

NAME Katiecoolady

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 Hi Vance! Long time no paths crossing! Just got to thinking about you and hoping your life is going better than well and all good things are coming your way! Happy Holidays Friend!

With love,

Katie
DATE Sunday, December 14th 2008 - 09:05:54 PM

NAME Michael Anthony

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 Having watched and read the case as much as I need to or can I find myself very uncomfortable with American law process.
I would hope that in England this would never have concluded in a life sentence. I live in France now were the operation of the law differs once more and one has to prove ones innocence. Given the circumstantial nature of so named evidence in this case I would hope that would prove an easy innocence, due to the lack of real evidence and the inconsistency were something did seem to have been recorded.
For me, a entirely remote and complete stranger to this otherwise, it vibrates with a hidden agenda from the authorities. Also, i should add that to the jury members that there is only a maximum of eight pints of blood and it always comes out of the body when a wound is large enough and the person is still alive. So if there were a lot of blood the person was alive to bleed it for a reasonable amount of time. I fail to see how this is a reason for a guilty verdict conclusion as we all bleed!

M.Anthony
DATE Wednesday, December 10th 2008 - 02:05:33 AM

NAME Poetic*Justice

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 Elaine:

You and I agree on this much: The story of how Terry King was beaten to death with a baseball bat by his own children is more than most people can stomach.

Alex King (13) and his brother Derek King (14) told police and other legal authorities an amazing number of lies -- some while under oath -- but to be clear, they did in fact murder their father. They also burned down his house in an attempt to hide the evidence of their evil.

After they exhausted their litany of lies about WHO killed their father, the teenagers started lying about WHY they killed him. Alex and Derek falsely claimed their father had abused them. Like all of their bizarre claims, upon investigation the abuse allegations proved to be false.

The facts behind the patricide and arson truly are almost unbearable to recite, but please know that Terry King loved his boys and did everything he could to protect them from harm and harmful people. Terry King expressly forbid his boys from hanging out with Rick Chavis.

Immediately after the teens murdered their Dad, they ran away to Chavis' house to hide. Chavis turned them in, and of course months later the teens tried to pin their murder on him.

At the time of the trial, many observers focused on the young age of the murder defendants. It was rarely noted that when the victim was bludgeoned to death in his own home, by his own sons, he was only 40-years-old.
DATE Tuesday, September 30th 2008 - 09:07:48 PM

NAME elaineisland

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 I have read as much of this story as I can possibly stomach. I am more curious now than ever. After looking at evidence presented, I have some big questions:
How did Terry King and Rick Chavis become friends, what kind of relationship, and how did he allow his sons to be left in private with a convicted child molester? I would view that as quite neglectful.
It appears that Terry King did psychologically abuse his sons, the extent may never be known. Why was this dismissed as "just staring?"
Why did Terry King's wife leave in the first place? Did he run her off, or did he just not know how to maintain the relationship, or was she abused?
These children were abandoned (or told they were abandoned), neglected, molested,brainwashed, coersed, used, and abused. Why were they again raped by the court and the criminal justice system?
It seemed the judge was adamant that the youth plead guilty. Why was the rush on for judgement? Perhaps this judge needs to learn about the minds of human beings. With what was going on in these children's lives and homes, it is no wonder it took so long for them to committ murder, if indeed they did.
DATE Sunday, September 14th 2008 - 10:34:02 AM

NAME Susan in MI

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 Todd Geib from Ravenna, MI(22)last seen alive June 12, 2005. - Same date as Joshua Snell - Body found three weeks later in Obenhall Lake. http://www.msnbc.com/id/26232137/
DATE Sunday, August 17th 2008 - 05:48:00 AM

NAME Vance Holmes

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 Julian B. Kycia:

I'm so sorry. I know I speak for so many people when I say my heart and my deepest sympathies are with you. I guess you just have to trust your basic instincts. And pray. Peace to you and your family.
DATE Wednesday, July 16th 2008 - 11:29:50 PM

NAME returnedhomefromabroad

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 I was following your coverage of the Duke lacrosse case, though it seemed to abruptly end at one point. Has there been any conclusion to that case yet?
DATE Tuesday, July 1st 2008 - 03:16:34 AM

NAME susan scharf

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 I'm glad to see that justice has been served.I saw the documentary of The Staircase and from the first picture on I was sure he was guilty. The rest of the story was a shock and very sad. I can't believe his own children can't see it.Especially the Ratliff children.They must be blind. I'm gald he got what he deserved and didn't get the death penalty because that would be too good for him. I'm glad he has to suffer in jail for what he did and it's sure worth my taxes.
DATE Friday, June 13th 2008 - 12:44:17 PM

NAME Julian B. Kycia

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 You know Vance....I really don't know what to think, because when it really comes down to it the pain will never cease or subside. My son Patick is dead now for 2 1/2 years and I've trained myself to think it was all a foolish college accident. People do things like that as a defense in order to function on a daily basis, or even sleep. Now all these new theories come to light, and there is a real conflict and turmoil within me. Deep down I new my son would never just walk into the Red River, but was told "Julian...you can't put your logic into somthing that isn't logical".
DATE Saturday, May 3rd 2008 - 07:46:20 PM

NAME randy

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 I have (many) reasons to not believe that an "owl" killed Peterson's wife. One of the 3rd grade kids my wife teaches could dream up something more believable than that, but I must admit the theory of WHOO Done IT? (the "owl") is hilarious.
DATE Friday, May 2nd 2008 - 11:26:02 AM

NAME Jon Snell Joshua Snell's Brother

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 I first found your page about 2 1/2 years ago I am so glad that I did because that is the reason that I have pushed so hard in my brothers case and I will not stop till the people that hurt my brother are in prison..... Thank you Vance
DATE Friday, May 2nd 2008 - 12:00:18 AM

NAME April

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 I thnkg that your web site is very good and informative. Ive been trying to follow the story on the "smiley face gang" in the news paper and on the news but I always felt like I was not getting the full story about the victims or their situations until I read your page on the midwest drowning victims...MURDER VICTIMS. Thank you and keep up the good work.
DATE Wednesday, April 30th 2008 - 10:04:34 AM

NAME Boxer

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 Blake found liable in appeal
DATE Tuesday, April 29th 2008 - 10:26:42 PM

NAME Becky Tournear

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 Didnt know about the drownings until I saw GMA. Being the murderers/punishment reader that I am, I was glad to hear the other side of the stories, which is from the family and friends side of view. Which of course some websites do not have, only the facts about the case. So thanks for the insight.
DATE Monday, April 28th 2008 - 03:27:57 PM

NAME Monica Maroon

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 Vance, been perusing your site for years. My family lives in LaCrosse, so this really hits close to home. Not sure if you've seen this yet, but it may be helpful:http://kstp.com/article/stories/s421846.shtml?v=1
DATE Saturday, April 26th 2008 - 10:55:41 AM

NAME ann borden

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 dear vance, i saw this morning about the apparent connecting of the midwest drownings and immediately remembered having read about it on your site long before. i first found you the night before the peterson verdict, when "experts", including his revolting lawyers clearly, all expected acquittal. this distressed me so much, i was forced online (for the 1st time in my life) to find fellowship, and immediately found you, a source of great comfort in that particular distress! pontius pilate asked, "what is truth?", and lately i've been thinking he meant, in part, "what does truth MATTER, because few people care about the truth." you, vance holmes, help provide an answer to that question. to wit: " truth matters to ME, and i will devote great effort and FORMIDABLE talent in service of the truth." with love and admiration, a fan
DATE Saturday, April 26th 2008 - 09:55:16 AM

NAME Poetic*Justice

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 Sandra Odom told so many lies she couldn't keep them straight. The horror of those two precious boy's deaths will stay with me forever. Regardless of what happened in court, Odom will always be a vicious child-murderer in my book.


DATE Friday, January 18th 2008 - 10:55:50 PM

NAME Diamond for Twins

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 We never did examine the life of this mean and viscous adulteress woman. One who had an affair with this married man, who probably hated his beautiful wife and mother of his two beautiful twin sons, may she never even today be able to find any peace. Sandra Odom should have been found guilty in a court of law, but again justice failed us. She will answer on day, oh what a day that will be.
DATE Friday, January 18th 2008 - 10:00:11 AM

NAME Poetic*Justice

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 3/28/06 statement from captains of Duke University Men's Lacrosse Team:

"The captains of the team met this morning with President Brodhead, and expressed sincere regret over the lapse in judgment in having the party on March 13 which has caused so much anguish for the Duke community and shame to our families and ourselves."
DATE Friday, December 7th 2007 - 12:54:40 PM

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 It's really pathetic that after what Mike Nifong did to those kids at Duke that people still are bashing the Duke guys! Do they think what goes on within the Duke campus with booze, women and parties doesn't go on college campuses across the nation??? The issue here is that the Duke players were FALSELY ACCUSED, and it was proven. It does not have anything to do with any other issue in this particular matter. Most likely the continued bashers are either UNC students, fans or just plain Duke haters. I Bet they would look at it differently if it had happened to THEIR players on their campus. But I'm sure NOTHING like that ever goes on, on THEIR campus...no parties with booze, or women, or anything like that. Give me a BREAK!!! These Self righteous people need to GROW UP and look at this case for WHAT it was and not WHO it was.
DATE Friday, December 7th 2007 - 12:11:12 AM

NAME poetic justice at its finest

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 NC State of Appeals upheld the conviction of the sick, arrogant, sociopath, Michael Peterson. WHY would ANYone doubt his guilt??? It has nothing to do with his sexual orientation...he is a cold blooded murderer and he is right where he belongs....hopefully to never see the light of day, as Kathleen will never again see.
DATE Thursday, December 6th 2007 - 11:56:32 PM

NAME Kim

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 GREAT stuff on the Michael Peterson case. That jerk got just what he deserved. To ROT in that NC prison....he is getting off much better than poor Kathleen with her head bashed in beyond recognition. He is a sick arrogant sociopath who most definitely found out that just because he got by with murder once in Germany, he didn't in Durham, NC! Poetic Justice!!
DATE Thursday, December 6th 2007 - 11:47:02 PM

NAME Alikacatch

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 Hi Poet, thanks for keeping your posts updated re the missing men. Just wondering if you had heard about the disappearance of 18yr old Lee Cutler.

BARABOO, Wis. -- Sauk County sheriff's deputies continue to patrol the banks of the Baraboo River for clues in the disappearance of an Illinois teen who vanished.
Lee Cutler, 18, of Buffalo Grove, Ill., was last seen on Oct. 20. His car was found two days later at a wayside along Highway 33 near a bridge that crosses the river.

Here's a more indepth link:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/US
/story?id=3765472&page=1
DATE Thursday, November 29th 2007 - 07:27:20 AM

NAME Question from Charlotte, NC

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 Have you seen these two cases in Charlotte, NC and Atlanta, GA? www.helpfindkyle.com and www.justingaines.com
DATE Thursday, November 22nd 2007 - 10:54:50 PM

NAME Poetic*Justice

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 I live in Minneapolis and attended the University of MN. Years ago, when U of M student, Chris Jenkins suddenly went missing, the story caught my attention. After looking into the situation, it became clear to me that Chris Jenkins' disappearance was not a unique occurrence. Research revealed several similar disappearances and drownings in the area. I started the "Drowning in Coincidence" web page in an attempt to keep track of all the missing students and to call attention to the phenomenon.

DATE Wednesday, November 21st 2007 - 02:27:58 PM

NAME Question from Charlotte, NC

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 Why are you so interested in the missing/murdered young men in the Midwest and South? It seems you are a actor/dancer...tell how you came to be interested in this topic.
DATE Tuesday, November 20th 2007 - 10:36:10 PM

NAME Gina

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 I really like this page...It's a good one.
DATE Thursday, October 25th 2007 - 02:09:52 AM

NAME kandice pitman
DATE Monday, October 8th 2007 - 07:18:39 PM

NAME Poetic*Justice

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 Daniel:

The disgraceful "race-baiting and lies" in the Duke University case begin and end with the racist liars on the lacrosse team and the championship morons who support them.

From their vile racist remarks and violent behavior to the pathetic series of lies they told police, Duke's very LAX team of bigots, bashers and booze hounds have proven themselves to be nothing but a spoiled bunch of hooligans.

What's "unfortunate and depressing" is that over a year after their infamous 2006 spring breakdown, admirers of these Devils are still out trolling the internet in a ridiculous attempt to turn a team of underage-aged drunks and bullies into national heroes.

Here's the truth, written down in an email -- not from corrupt cops and political prosecutors -- but an email from a Duke lacrosse player CC'd to the entire innocent team.


"To whom it may concern

tommrow night, after tonights show, ive decided to have some strippers over to edens 2c. all are welcome.. however there will be no nudity. i plan on killing the bitches as soon as the walk in and proceding to cut their skin off while cumming in my duke issue spandex.. all in besides arch and tack please respond

41"








DATE Saturday, October 6th 2007 - 09:07:56 PM

NAME Daniel

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 Daniel,

I just wanted to let you know that you're race-baiting and lies regarding the Duke Hoax is a disgrace. There was never any evidence for these false charges to be brought other than a corrupt prosecutor looking for reelection. You are clearly indifferent to the truth, meaning you could care less about true poetic justice. You're slander and lies regarding the innocent members of the Duke lacrosse team is unfortunate and depressing.
DATE Friday, October 5th 2007 - 11:12:25 PM

NAME Poetic*Justice

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 Hello Soupy! Always good to hear from you.

I crossed the I-35 bridge two or three times a day. I could very well have been on it when it collapsed, but I wasn't any where near downtown when tragedy fell.

Not everyone was so lucky of course -- but as of yet, authorities will not release the actual number of fatalities (perhaps 12 - 20).

This city is eerily quiet. Minneapolis has been humbled both by the strange disaster and the stange miracle that more people weren't seriously injured or killed.

I think the next big sound you'll hear out of the Twin Cities will be the roar of angry citizens demanding we pay less attention to re-building roads and bridges in Iraq and spend time and money re-building infrastructure right here at home.
DATE Saturday, August 4th 2007 - 03:49:59 PM

NAME Soupy

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 Poe, I have respected your privacy- but I lost touch with you...With this recent Bridge tragedy. I am very anxious to hear from you. I think of you often and I send God's Blessing to You and Yours...Now and Always.
Your dear Friend.
DATE Wednesday, August 1st 2007 - 09:56:35 PM

NAME Poetic*Justice

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 jimb390

Sorry Jim -- but I have no information about any coed killings in Wisconsin.
DATE Friday, July 27th 2007 - 09:41:44 PM

NAME jimb390@hotmail.com

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 vance: do you believe there is any connection between the madison, wi coed and green bay, wi coed who died in june and july 07? are they too victims of the serial killer?
DATE Tuesday, June 19th 2007 - 07:58:46 PM

NAME jackie and megan

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 if you can please send us information about the dealth of Matthew Schiess and Jared Dion we would really apperciate it, thanks.

megans e-mail. um2cute4u246@yahoo.com
DATE Saturday, June 9th 2007 - 10:59:50 PM

NAME One who cares

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 They can CLEARLY see my take on THAT particular murder. I, unlike you obviously, don't base my "take" on murder on hate and mockery.

Again I say, you should do a bit of research on both SSRIs and your statements of what Chris did and/or said.
I feel no need to point out to you your mistakes on what you would like to consider or have your other readers belive as "facts". That would be a waste of time.

Perhaps the day will come when you are the one who has to defend someone and there is someone just like YOU out there spewing there hate and misinformation.

I firmly believe in karma and as I said before...

Remember...judge not lest ye be judged. If we judge with an evil heart or dark intent, His judgment of us will reflect it.

DATE Thursday, May 31st 2007 - 03:38:32 PM

NAME Poetic*Justice

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 WHO CARES?

Thank you for signing the book so everyone can clearly read and understand your take on murder.

As for Chris Pittman's double homicide --

What really irks me isn't the fact that he lied and tried to blame a fictional Black man for his hideous crimes. (Although that says a great deal about him.) Nor is it the outrageous lies the teenager later told about his dead grandparents being child abusers.

What irks me isn't even that Pittman burned down his grandparent's new home after the killings -- which put so many neighbors and firefighters at risk of death or injury.

What disturbs me is that, while they both lay peacefully sleeping in their bed, Pittman shot his grandmother in the head at point blank range and then shoved a rifle in his grandfather's mouth and blew his brains out. That's the part of the story I have a problem with.

Ironically, the two seniors Pittman murdered were the very two people who took pity on Chris and tried to help him.

I feel no shame about calling Chris Pittman what he is: a disgraceful liar and a murdering monster.

It's YOU who should be ashamed to try and defend Pittman's latest lie -- that drugs made him murder his grandparents.




DATE Wednesday, May 30th 2007 - 06:06:17 PM

NAME One who cares

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 I seriouly thought about NOT signig your guestbook but then thought again...
I believe that your poetic justice website regarding the young children who have committed murder is disgusting. Perhaps you should concentrate on your credentials, which are NOT in the field of law or any relation to it, but on dancing and acting.
I am an advocate for Christopher Pittman's release and I think that you should be ashamed of yourself. I think what really irks you about his case is the fact that he claimed that a black man committed the crime. Such a small part of a really big picture. Perhaps if you did some actual research on the use and effects of SSRIs, you would be less likely to pass judgment on others. To think that you work with children is really the astonishing thing. Are you as compassionate with them as you are with the children you have posted on your site? Are those you work for or with aware of your hate and mockery?

Remember...judge not lest ye be judged. If we judge with an evil heart or dark intent, His judgment of us will reflect it.
DATE Sunday, May 27th 2007 - 11:43:54 AM

NAME Clare O'Keefe

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 “The reasons why juveniles are not trusted with the privileges and responsibilities of an adult also explain why their irresponsible conduct is not as morally reprehensible as that of an adult”
- U.S. Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens
DATE Wednesday, May 23rd 2007 - 04:41:55 PM

NAME ISUstudent

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 A student here in Ames, IA drowned under what I would call suspicous circumstances. I was reading news updates about him, and found all of these sites about a possible serial killer. The story here seems to fit the profile, even if it is not in MN or WI. Abel Bolanos, 19, reportedly left a party at 4:00 AM last Fri to go to his dorm acouple miles away. Friends had taken his car keys earlier in the night, bc he was drinking. He was found in a campus lake on Tue. Sounds pretty cut & dry, kid got drunk and fell in the lake. But there are some twists. His dorm is a couple miles to the South and East of the party. The media reported that he was thought to have been around the dorm at about 4:30 AM. Access to the building is controlled by a key card. His card was never used to get in the building at 4:30 AM. There was an attempt made to gain access to the dorm with his card at 3:23 AM, but the door that it was attempted on was not an entrance that can be opened with a student's card. He would have known that. How could he have used the card at 3:23, and then been reported to have left the party at 4:00? The lake where he was found is due North of the dorms. His ATM & credit card were recovered on the street between the dorm and the lake on Mon. Why would he have taken those out blocks from the dorm? If they were by the door, one could hypothesize that he was digging for his access card. Finally his body was recovered on the Eastern edge of the lake, the opposite side that one would expect him to be walking on. The lake is not on the path between the party and the dorm. It is not like he slipped on the way. The lake does not have a rocky shore, or a steep shore. Not the sort of place where one would fall in, and not be able to get back out. From reading all of these sites that theorize about a killer, this kid fits the same profile as the others. Young, athletic, brown hair, 5'7", 165 lbs, very good student, had been drinking, got separated from friends, happened between Oct and April, in the Midwest, ruled an accidental drowning. Just seems too wierd - and sad.
DATE Wednesday, April 4th 2007 - 11:49:45 PM

NAME AR

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 I have been reading your entries about the college students drowning. Please take a look at this article...www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17945986/
There was another one in Iowa. Someone has to stop this from happening. Have you heard anything new from the professor in St. Cloud Minnesota?
DATE Wednesday, April 4th 2007 - 01:48:02 PM

NAME Oregon

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 I hope you die
DATE Monday, March 12th 2007 - 02:32:28 AM

NAME lori nate suettinger

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 I viewed your web site reguarding the misssing young men ,one thought occured to me the supposed drownings occur from sept to april If this is a bartender they are working a seasonal circit,door county,florida .just a thought?
DATE Monday, December 31st 2001 - 07:00:43 PM

NAME Katlyn

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 i am doing a paper on michael peterson... he was a sich and twisted Bastard
DATE Friday, January 26th 2007 - 02:28:51 PM

NAME CECILLE C.

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 Very interesting...and at the same time sad to read stories like these.
DATE Wednesday, January 17th 2007 - 11:28:02 AM

NAME Disgusting

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 The way you comment on the Peterson trial is terrible and hateful. How do YOU know exactly what happened and why do you think you have the right to talk about the Peterson family in such a hateful way?
You think you're "good" and all of them are "bad". Well in my eyes you're totally obsessed with this case and from some of your comments one might think you enjoy all the pain this hase caused.
I had never heard of this case before, as I'm not from the US, but I think it's disgusting how you write about this terrible incident.
DATE Saturday, January 6th 2007 - 10:42:26 AM

NAME a-mo-low

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 Nice site. As far as the Duke Universtiy Case, somebody knows something. Of course they're not putting them in separate interrogation rooms like they did the Central Park Five up here in NY (can't do that to rich white kids now can we?)
DATE Friday, December 22nd 2006 - 04:59:02 PM

NAME Brittney

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 Hello Pj. I just want to say thanks for taking the time to update whenever you can on Drowning In Coincidence.My uncle's(Albert Campbell)story is seen on your site and I think what your doing is very helpful. We need to make people aware of what is going on and that something needs to be done. I often go to your page and read it over and over,something just doesnt make sense. Though we may never know,the heartache and pain is something we'll always know and it still hurts every day to know that a Albert was lost at such a young age. The deepest sympathy goes out to all those families dealing with the same issue!
DATE Tuesday, November 28th 2006 - 10:38:15 PM

NAME Maggie

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 Vance,
I have been a frequent visitor to your website since finding it during the Kathleen Peterson murder trail. I think that your updates regarding the midwest drownings have really made a difference in making people aware of what is really going on! Finally, the MPD has reopened such an important case and the truth will prevail.
Keep up the good work... it is amazing!
DATE Tuesday, November 28th 2006 - 11:57:40 AM

NAME Ana

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 Vance, I've emailed you previously about the drownings in the Midwest.I live in Eau Claire WI, and was a student at UW in the early to mid 90's. The climate here is so much so that there are articles in the paper almost weekly "debunking" and almost mocking the idea that anything can be happening to these young men except for them getting intoxicated and simply walking into the Chippewa River or Half Moon Lake...both places that have been scenes of drownings. As a student that drank much and wondered how she stumbled hom many nights both on campus and off, I realize what a risk it is to go stumbling around town under the influence. however in the 6 and a half years that I attended school here, never once in my life did I ever come close to walking into the river...and I had to cross it daily. I lived across from Owen Park, walked over the many Eau Claire bridges and even the banks of the river before. Of course, you would always hear about the students who tried to swim the river, always with a few people there to dare them to try. however this was not a night time event or one that one would attempt in November. I will never for the life of me understand how not one, but two young men could end up in Half Moon Lake...having walked there on foot, lightly clothed in the middle of November and not sobered up somehow along the way...at least enough to realize they were in the middle of a large body of water and that they were no longer surrounded by street lights but in the midst of a dark park with no light and forest like conditions. Never. I wonder why these things are happening in LaCrosse, and Eau Claire as well as plces in Minnesota in a pattern? I wonder why nearby Menomonie Wisconsin, which also has UW-Stout with a population of 8,000 students and a campus and downtown bar area right on the Red Cedar River isn't having young men stumble flailingly into the water in drunkeness yet it is happening at an alarming rate in Eau Claire and LaCrosse...which are very comparable. It's because something else is happening, or could be. Just as they said with Chris Jenkins..close your eyes and you won't see something. I hate what a mockery that law enforcement chooses to make of the idea that there might be something behind these deaths, other than just writing it off to alcoholic stupor. I have been there, and done that many times and never ended up in a body of water...and I am not any smarter than the next guy.
DATE Tuesday, November 21st 2006 - 03:11:42 PM

NAME Voice Of Reason

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 In 1997 I had just graduated high school and am now 28 years old. I lived in Onalaska, WI for five years and near downtown La Crosse, WI for one. Drinking, whether it is in bars, homes, or on college campuses, does and will continue to exist in Midwest Wisconsin. Midwest Wisconsin is not the only place binge drinking takes place. Nevertheless, the area is full of wildlife and water and the area where these young men are being found, deceased.
I do not believe it is the responsibility of anyone else to keep tabs on the areas binge drinkers, I do believe however, that La Crosse, WI is a community of people who trusting in each other and if there is a person among them who is preying on young college aged men in the area public safety is the responsibility of citizens, law enforcement officials, and elected representatives.
I would like to extend my sincerest condolences to all the families and friends of the victims, whom have lost someone in such a tragic manor. I can only hope the knowledge that there are people who care about you and the loss you have and are continuing to endure. My thoughts and prayers are with all of you.
Finally, a word of advise to law enforcement officials, elected representatives, the media, and anyone who publicly voices there opinion on these young men’s tragic passing, think before you speak. You cannot place a dollar amount on a life. There are families and friends grieving and your callus comments are tasteless and in no way helping solve the problem at hand; young men are losing their lives and whether it is by accident or a criminal act something needs to be done.
DATE Thursday, November 2nd 2006 - 07:39:25 PM

NAME Poetic*Justice

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 Thank you, Bonnie. I'm truly honored.
DATE Tuesday, October 24th 2006 - 03:35:27 AM

NAME Bonnie M. Wells

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 Vance,
Your poem, Coincidence Spatter Analysis, still gives me goose bumps every time I read it! I cannot shake the feeling that it was written for me - although I'm sure this is not the case as far as your intent was concerned. Still, I adopted it long ago, and placed it upon the main page of my "Pure Coincidence" book series - with proper credit to you, of course.
It seems our interests are closely related, as most of my web site deals with unsolved murder cases, and the injustice of never knowing who killed the person, or ever seeing anything done with them.
Sincerely,
Bonnie
DATE Saturday, October 21st 2006 - 07:12:56 PM

NAME Vance

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 Thank you, Angela.

I have posted an article about Matt Kruziki on the "Drowning in Coincidence" page. I've recently received several letters about Matt. The whole thing is very very painful.
DATE Friday, October 13th 2006 - 02:06:08 PM

NAME Angela in Waukesha

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 Thank you for writing about Luke Homan. Many people read your site and link to it for information on these drowning deaths. Soon hopefully people will take action and force law enforcement to investigate thoroughly.

Do you have info on Matt Kruziki on your site? His father, a U.S. Marshal is calling for further investigation after his drowning.
DATE Monday, October 9th 2006 - 03:55:40 PM

NAME Jahara Brown

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 Excellent website!
DATE Wednesday, October 4th 2006 - 10:38:55 AM

NAME wisconsin resident

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 Hi,
I am not sure if you are still updating your 'drowning in coincidence' page, but I wanted to let you know that La Crosse, WI has had yet another mysterious student drowning that fits the profile of all the others. Check out www.lacrossetribune.com. Everytime this sick incident happens, I check out your site, and I was surprised to not find anything this time.
DATE Tuesday, October 3rd 2006 - 08:40:51 PM

NAME Louisewcc

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 I have enjoyed reading about Michael Peterson. I have bought the "The Staircase" dvd, and also read the Book about the case also " The perfect husband"
If anyone thinks this guy is innocent, they need their head read. This guy is so guilty its not funny. Pity he didnt receive the death sentence.
DATE Monday, October 2nd 2006 - 03:04:32 AM

NAME Poetic*Justice

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 Well, I've started a page on the Duke debacle. Frankly, I think the lacrosse team doth protest too much. Time will tell, but I suspect Duke's gang is guilty of a great deal.
DATE Friday, September 8th 2006 - 02:03:26 PM

NAME NC4life

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 What's your opinion on the Duke Lacrosse Case?
DATE Thursday, September 7th 2006 - 06:37:21 AM

NAME SP Is Guilty

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 You've got some serious issues dude.
DATE Sunday, August 20th 2006 - 12:22:29 PM

NAME Soupy

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 Had to drop in on my favorite slueth! I see that you've updated your graphics on the site. very nice!
Been looking it over... Always a pleasure my fond Friend "Poetic Justice"... May God Bless you and keep you in His care. Your Buddy, Soupy
~ Peace
DATE Thursday, July 13th 2006 - 12:58:00 AM

NAME P*J

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 Dearest Alex:

Having followed the Stair case for years, I can assure you it's not relevant whether Michael Peterson was gay or straight.

The fact is -- at the time he murdered his wife, he was a BUY-sexual. A demented old fool who secretly trolled the internet in the middle of the night searching for hookers he could BUY (with his wife's money).

Since you're clearly focused on finding some reason to explain why Peterson's jury convicted him -- I'd strongly suggest you focus on the autopsy of his victim -- Kathleen Peterson.

That autopsy isn't gay or straight. It's the devastating report of a sadistic, prolonged battering and first degree murder.
DATE Friday, June 30th 2006 - 03:20:16 PM

NAME Alex, Phoenix Arizona

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 Dearest "Poetic INjustice": What a sad commentary on the Michael Peterson case! I truly believe that his only "crime", is being a non-monogamous bisexual man in North Carolina; the "Bible Belt of the "Rarely Religious Right". I truly believe that the prosecution & jury convicted him of just this, & a few other "socially unacceptable practices", & Nothing Else. What a victtory for the Jerry Falwell/Pat Robertson Crowd!Although I am only gay,I KNOW that I am a Faithful Christian; & believe in sexual intimacy ONLY within the boundaries of a Loving, Monogamous, Committed Relationship. And I believe that was Michael's only,"Crime". And I believe the prosecution & jury believed it too, & that's the REAL CRIME.
DATE Friday, June 30th 2006 - 01:18:48 AM

NAME M. William Phelps

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 Love your site, Vance! A fellow true crime author turned me on to it, and I just wanted stop by and say great job.

All best,
MWP
www.mwilliamphelps.com
DATE Wednesday, April 26th 2006 - 10:00:50 AM

NAME Poetic*Justice

NOTE

 True, I don't know everything -- but I know this: Lionel Tate brutally murdered a small child. I know he never admitted to his evil crime or even expressed remorse for it.

Whether Tate actually threatened a pizza delivery man with a gun or not -- the fact is he was in violation of his parole when found eating the pizza with his buddies.

Little Tiffany Eunick will never have a chance to enjoy a piece of pizza -- or anything else.

So, if you're done being outraged about the battering and killing of a 6-year-old baby girl, and you still have outrage left -- direct it towards Tate's mother. She was supposed to be babysitting Tiffany, but was fast asleep when Lionel decided it would be fun to murder the first grader.

True, I don't know everything -- but I know Lionel Tate is a remorseless murderer, a liar and a menace to society.
DATE Monday, April 3rd 2006 - 11:16:33 AM

NAME Goddie San Diego

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 You may be a crime afficianado but you do not know everything. Lionel Tate may have had to plead guilty to the robbery but he did not do it.One day I pray that the BSO will be held accountable for what they have done to this boy.There are very few defense attorneys that will attempt to bring police corruption to the publics attention, but I assure you they lose their careers in the process. There is something horribly wrong in Broward County Sheriffs Dept.I have information that the public is not aware of and the players involved don't want acknowleged.Believe it or not, as far as pulling a gun on a pizza deliveryman, Lionel Tate is innocent.
DATE Thursday, March 30th 2006 - 11:06:45 PM

NAME peggy

NOTE

 America on Trial- Abu Ghraib, is a very moving piece, It shocks and captures the horror how we are torturing people. I got here following a link about Andrea Yates, then read the terrible story about your brother. You and your family have my condolences and prayers.
DATE Monday, March 20th 2006 - 12:50:24 PM

NAME P*J

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 JAMIE:

I would dearly love to know what in Victor Brancaccio's upbringing made him attack and murder an 81-year-old woman. I really would. But let's face it, regardless of what the childhood excuses are -- Victor will always be remembered as an evil, lying, cold-blooded killer.

CURIOUS WEBSURFER:

I'm not FOR or AGAINST Scott Peterson. I am 100% FOR every defendant getting a fair trial. In my opinion, the entire Peterson affair was a circus from start to finish. I have no doubt about that.
DATE Monday, March 20th 2006 - 11:53:54 AM

NAME curiouswebsurfer

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 I'm not sure if you're for or against Scott Peterson, but everything you offered has made up my mind that he committed the crime. I have no doubt now. Thanks for the info.
DATE Saturday, March 18th 2006 - 07:52:03 PM

NAME Jami Betts

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 I was here to view about Victor Brancaccio He is my Cousin and I do know some truth to the way Victor Grew up that had alot to do with his personality. Thank You
DATE Friday, March 17th 2006 - 01:46:19 PM

NAME Rio

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 Hey PJ,Here is another college student drinking "accident"(James Murphy). It's a little different from the other cases,considering he didnt end up in a river but I do believe it is in the same area Albert Campbell was found dead due to drinking and he is a Clarkson sutdent as well.Just thought you'd like to see this.

http://www.cbs6albany.com/
engine.pl?station=wrgb&id=3928&template
=breakout_regional_story.shtml&dateformat
=%25M+%25e,%25Y
DATE Wednesday, March 15th 2006 - 05:17:53 PM

NAME Poetic*Justice

NOTE

 Yes, I WAS wrong about Cody Posey. What's more -- Cody Posey was RIGHT.

I'd said Posey deserved whatever sentence the judge gave him. That was before he got 4 years for committing 3 murders -- so clearly, I was wrong. That's not what the remorseless monster deserved. He deserved to die behind bars like every other triple murderer.

Apparently Cody was correct to calculate that -- had the Menendez Brothers killed their parents sooner -- they'd have gotten away with it.

To be sure, nobody who slaughters their own family in cold blood will ever have a chance at a normal life. Regardless of the judge's precedent setting decision, Cody Posey will never be paroled from the life sentence he gave himself.

==============

"Nothing else worked, so I might as well just kill them. So I did."

DATE Monday, February 27th 2006 - 12:22:46 AM

NAME pate10za

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 your wrong about cody posey, he did what he thought he had to do to get away from the idiots who were supposed to be a loving family to him. PTSD/ADHD-depression are Serious illnesses/syndromes. He should have been helped a very long time ago. remember, just because your iq is above average doesn't mean you can cope with abuse in any form.
He now has a chance at a normal life after 21. No, i don't care about his father or step mother. They should have helped him. They made the weapon that killed them. You and I don't know what his step sister did to him either. Maybe she taunted him, obviously in court it was stated she was always getting him into trouble, and trouble meant more abuse, and after enduring abuse for years he did snap, something I do not condone, and it's not right, but in a childs mind, a way to get away from the abuse. Either way, I am happy with the decision. I do not believe a boy should be sent to prison with adults, pedophiles and rapists the prison harbor.
DATE Friday, February 24th 2006 - 03:38:15 PM

NAME mandy

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 i am very glad the cody posy case turned out the way it did,cody needs treatment not to be sent to prison where he could be abused all over again!!
DATE Thursday, February 23rd 2006 - 01:35:10 PM

NAME sunshine

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 Thanks for all the grteat info. How many twenty-something college students were found in Midwestern waterways prior to 1997? It's creepy to me that medical examiners laugh at the possibility of a killer or another possible link. I also think that the $400,000 granted to these colleges to raise alcohol awareness should have gone towards an investigation, one the state is obviously not willing to fund outright. In 2002 there was an slarming number of students missing and that number continues to rise each year. I find it hard to believe that all of these cases were accidents and these drunk kids just threw themselves into rivers...accidentally
DATE Tuesday, February 21st 2006 - 03:50:48 PM

NAME Kathryn

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 I'm glad I stumbled on your site. Your comments on Cody Posey are spot on. Best wishes.
DATE Wednesday, February 15th 2006 - 10:49:17 AM

NAME Poetic*Justice

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 DEAR DISGUSTED:

Whatever abuse Cody Posey may have suffered -- it obviously wasn't harsh enough to kill him. We can't say the same for the three people he abused . . . and continued to abuse in court.

If you're disgusted by justice in this case, join a Menendez Brothers support group. Slaughtering your family in cold blood is against the law -- no matter how much you hate them.

So the housing offers are sweet, but Cody won't be moving into ANYONE'S spare bedroom ANY time soon. He'll be locked up in a cold, smelly, dimly lit cage for several decades.

And really, that's a remarkably merciful outcome for this teenage triple murderer -- because what's truly disgusting are the filthy lies Posey told about his dead victims.

May they rest in peace.

DATE Wednesday, February 15th 2006 - 02:32:52 AM

NAME Disgusted

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 I haven't seen the entire site, but what I have seen is just plain IGNORANT. You state that Cody Posey wasn't abused, and that a bunch of people say he wasn't WHICH IS AN OUT AND OUT LIE. There are MANY people, including ranch hands, relatives, including the 13 year old stepsisters FATHER who believe Cody. How stupid are you? If the father of the 13 year old girl says that "he would love to have Cody live with him after he's acquitted" how can you say that nobody believes he was abused? He WAS abused, and there are just too many people who witnessed it. When you say that "Sheriffs, police officers, social workers, teachers, relatives and farmhands have directly contradicted every major point in Posey's testimony" that is straight up LIE. At the most, a couple of those people said they "didn't witness it" but what person who is abusing a child is going to do it in front of a police officer, teacher or anyone else for that matter. But as far as that goes, Paul Posy DID abuse Cody in front of people. There was Slim Britton, the ranch hand, then there was a LONG TIME family friend, who I can't remember the name of, that had to pull Paul off Cody when he was just an INFANT because Paul was beating an infant in diapers for making noise. Tryone and Paul also asked Slim Britton to join them in a threesome. He turned them down. It's quite a coincidence that they wanted a threesome with Slim, and then shortly after he refuses their offer Cody says that they tried to coerce him into having sex with Tryone. I haven't read the rest of the cases, but in this case you truly are an idiot. You KNOW that he was abused or you wouldn't have lied and said that all those people contradicted Cody's testimony when, in reality, they DIDN'T contradict his testimony. The whole point is that this CHILD is a CHILD, and he WAS abused. That's not even disputed. In fact, since the jury only convicted him of "manslaughter" against Paul Posey, they believe he was abused. I guess this site just proves that any idiot can have a web site. Just remember that you ONLY have freedom of speech because of people like ME. It's people like me who have fought for your right to be an idiot. It's funny though how a 14 year old CHILD can't fight for this country, or even decide he doesn't want to go to school, BUT he can be tried as adult, and sentenced as an adult. That's all I have to say, especially since you obviously can't comprehend too much information at one time. Also, you don't care what the TRUTH really is anyway.
DATE Tuesday, February 14th 2006 - 03:41:16 PM

NAME Incognito

NOTE

 Hi Poe. Just checking in again Have you heard about this missing Midwest Student?

http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/feb06/390165.asp
DATE Monday, February 6th 2006 - 04:40:59 PM

NAME Victoria

NOTE

 I was just looking at the Terry King case were he was killed by his 2 sons. your website was very helpful in my research. thank you!
DATE Wednesday, February 1st 2006 - 06:05:51 PM

NAME disgusted

NOTE

 You are one sick twisted awful human being. I hope awful things happen to you many times throughout a long and painful life.
DATE Tuesday, January 31st 2006 - 10:48:04 PM

NAME Poetic*Justice

NOTE

 Well, it's impossible to know, "how many students died of drowning all together" but yes, there were "multiple cases" in some of the cities.

An alarming number of young people drown in fatal mishaps every year -- mostly in the Spring and Summer. Of the drownings considered to be suspicious (late Fall and Winter)-- that were likely not a suicide or simple accident -- there have been as many as 30 since 1997.

Among these "suspicious" cases -- there are certainly common cities and rivers. This is one of the things that makes the drownings suspicious. True, students DO get drunk and have awful accidents, but it's statistically unlikely that in particular towns, students will go strangely missing and end up inexplicably in the river.

The top five areas of concentration:

1. La Crosse, WI
2. Eau Claire, WI
3. Minneapolis, MN
4. East Lansing, MI
5. Chicago, IL

ROSE:

I have no answers for you. I can say that HYPNOSIS is not a reliable technique for getting at the truth.

I just wish the good people of La Crosse would stop playing politics and put up SIGNAGE, LIGHTING, CAMERAS and FENCING along the banks near the park.

Peace

DATE Tuesday, January 31st 2006 - 09:29:42 PM

NAME Question

NOTE

 How many students died of drowning all together and were there any multiple cases in any of these citys?
DATE Monday, January 30th 2006 - 03:03:26 AM

NAME Rose

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 Hello Poet,
I am from La Crosse, WI. Born and raised.Our community has over the years lost 7 or 8 college students due to what police say is binge drinking. We recently had one that survived but he said he was to drunk to remember!! I don't understand why someone couldn't suggest hipnosis. Maybe putting him under and doing it that way could trigger some of his memory. So the city of La Crosse could get some peace and not have to worry all the time. I can vouge that the bartenders ARE doing there job. I have seen first hand bartenders downtown la crosse helpin get some people cabs or making sure a freind takes them home. Is there any contacts you might have to possibly answer this question. I will continue to check these posting so If you could help it would be greatly appriciated.
Thank You,
La Crosse, Wisconsin
DATE Monday, January 30th 2006 - 02:55:00 AM

NAME it's a secret

NOTE

 vance: thank you for representing the laci/scott peterson circumstances realistically. it is frightening to have seen people assume guilt, without having knowledge of evidence or testimony. mankind showed its worst traits with this incident, and it sickens me.
DATE Sunday, January 22nd 2006 - 12:19:42 AM

NAME Greineder

NOTE

 As a P.O. that was involved in the case, you know the case very well. You have a great site, keep up the good work.
DATE Tuesday, December 13th 2005 - 04:11:40 PM

NAME Boxer

NOTE

 Hey PJ,
Just wanted to say Job Well Done to you. Thanks for everything. Blake can pay now. Too bad it won't bring Bonny back.
DATE Sunday, December 11th 2005 - 08:00:34 PM

NAME Karen Arthur

NOTE

 why the hate for Robert Blake & Earle Caldwell??. Do you know them?? You have who the trahs, scum, dirt ball is, is isn't RB, its the dearly departed & if you love her so much find out who killed her
DATE Saturday, November 26th 2005 - 10:24:24 PM

NAME Kathy

NOTE

 While you were citing cases of people of color being falsley accused of crimes, does the name Tawana Brawely (sp?) mean any thing to you???
DATE Wednesday, November 16th 2005 - 02:04:57 AM

NAME Kathy

NOTE

 Thank you for this web site! I just found this quite by accident and I am glad I did. I thoroughly enjoyed this. I am a huge fan of Court TV and true crime books, so I am familiar with the cases you have written about. Your writing is great and I agree with your assesements (sp)and opinions of the cases whole heartedly..Once again thanks!!!
DATE Tuesday, November 15th 2005 - 06:55:18 AM

NAME mindy (mindy13@localnet.com)

NOTE

 I want to post this message to Colleen (Patrick's aunt). I am the sister of Albert Campbell. Albert was found in the Raquette River after leaving a bar alone on a Friday night. We too, have a hard time believing that Albert accidentally fell in. Our family would like to talk with you. If you are interested, I posted my email address. We want to extend our condolences to you and your family. We know what you are going through.
DATE Sunday, November 6th 2005 - 08:54:19 PM

NAME Vance Holmes

NOTE

 Thank you Colleen. I'm so very sorry and I offer my condolences to you and to your family.

You wrote you were "finally able to try to get on with day to day living." I appreciate you reaching out and sharing those positive feelings of hope and recovery, and of "moving on." Life is precious and so -- yes -- we must move on. And as we do, we will remember.

We will remember Patrick Kycia.


DATE Wednesday, November 2nd 2005 - 06:38:07 PM

NAME Colleen

NOTE

 I am Patick Kycia's aunt and am finally able to try to get on with day to day living. We deeply mourn the death of Patrick and welcome all of the prayers and well wishes we have been receiving. There is not one of us that believe that he met his death on his own. Somebody knows something and needs to share. According to many accounts, he was passes out at the party. If so, how did he walk three blocks towards his apartment and then turn around and walk 1 3/4 miles over rough turaine and a football field and walk into a river. Nothing makes sense other than Patrick is gone and we are so alone without him. Love u P.~Colleen
DATE Sunday, October 30th 2005 - 09:59:00 PM

NAME alikacatch

NOTE

 JR- First I want to say how sorry I am for your families loss, I'm sure you all are going through some hard times. I think it was smart of you to come to this site and post how you feel about your brothers drowning, many of us want to help in any way we can. I started a thread months ago on the AMW forum regarding the "accidental" deaths of these men, it is under "unsolved cases" if you interested please check it out. I know we may never have any answers as to why this is happening over and over but like you many of us do NOT think these were accidental or suicides. Since most of us obviously didn't know Albert your post helps with that aspect, thank you. We might not ever find a common denominator in these cases but what is the harm in trying, something is obviously not right. Again, thank you and my condolences to you and your family.
DATE Sunday, October 16th 2005 - 05:17:57 PM

NAME jr

NOTE

 Hello P*J,
I am the brother of Albert Campbell ,The Clarkson University Student found in the Raquette River. I too have unanswered questions, Albert was drinking with friends at another bar before going to the Cactus Cantina, He told friends he was leaving to go home at aprox. 09:30pm. Friends say he was drunk but have seen him worse. He lived very very close to the bar and had a short walk home. Yet for some unknown reason my brother decided to walk towards the Raquette River(which is aprox. 2x the distance to his apartment)and walk down a gradual bank into the river. I understand it was raining heavily that night and the river was much higher than normal. My brother did not like water, would not swim and was very insistent not only for himself but others to wear a life preserver if going on the water.Yet my brother (I understand intoxicated)decides to go down by the water alone (for what?).I am not from the area but do believe Potsdam and Canton(Adam Falco)are very close. We are waiting for the toxicology results. My brother obtained his bachelors degree and returned for his masters,My family and his friends cannot believe he would just walk into the river. The death was ruled accidental drowning/hypothermia. jr
DATE Friday, October 14th 2005 - 09:17:35 PM

NAME alikacatch

NOTE

 Hi Poet, wondering if you heard about this:

Body pulled from Raquette River
10/10/05
POTSDAM, N.Y. Autopsy reports show the Clarkson University student who died over the weekend drowned and that alcohol may have played a role.
Police say they suspect no foul play in the case of 22-year-old Albert Campbell, whose body was pulled from the Raquette River yesterday morning.
Authorities say Campbell was last seen Friday night, drinking at a local bar.
Police said today that they're unsure how Campbell, who is from Illion, found his way into the river.
Campbell's death marks the second time in less than a year that a college student in Saint Lawrence County drowned after drinking.

DATE Wednesday, October 12th 2005 - 04:43:02 PM

NAME P*J

NOTE

 You're forgetting about my freedom to delete your free speech . . . but you know what? I value your 20 years of gut instinct. I trust your opinion on whether the Peterson case is about an innocent accident or a bloody murder.
DATE Friday, September 30th 2005 - 10:34:57 PM

NAME Poetic justice, mijn gat

NOTE

 About your views on the Michael Peterson case. In my 20 years of life, I have never, ever, read such rubbish! Depicting poor Michael as a cold-blooded murderer.
The prosecution was only trying to get Peterson convicted because he was bisexual. It was for that reason and that reason only! They didn’t supply a decent story of what could have happened the evening she died. They figured “if we can just think of a vague story of what might have happened, it doesn’t really have to match the details, and we keep on hammering on the fact he’s bisexual a.k.a. partly gay, we’ll get him convicted”. And they succeeded. It’s terrible to see people get convicted just because they’re gay. They should keep religion and its out-dated points of view outside the court room.

P.S. If it turns out that my note was deleted, I will really have my doubts about this "freedom of speech" we're supposed to have.
DATE Friday, September 30th 2005 - 05:37:19 PM

NAME P*J

NOTE

 Thank you, Incognito.

Yes, I have posted a map of the missing. It's located near the bottom of the second page of "Drowning in Coincidence."

http://www.vanceholmes.com
/court/trial_missing_2.html

I think what's important to focus on is that although each case is very different, the commonality is that the students go missing. The search for similarities begins there. (location, time of year, type of victim etc.)

Certainly young men do drink heavily and then jump or fall into rivers and die -- but in these cases, the boys were strangely isolated. No one saw an accident.

Patrick Kycia's disappearance and drowning death -- as a single incident -- is explainable. Apparently he was very intoxicated. But placed in context with the other Midwest missing students, Kycia's death is a painful mystery.

What happened to Patrick after he left the frat party and started on the short walk for home? How did he lose his way? What about the locations of his wallet and shoe? Where was he? Was he alone? Why the silent phone calls hours later? How did he end up dangerously near the bank of the Red River?
DATE Friday, September 30th 2005 - 01:07:51 PM

NAME Incognito

NOTE

 Hi Poe. Someone on websleuths asked if there is a map available of the missing/found men from the midwest. Not sure if you know of a map or would be interested in creating one.

http://websleuths.com/forums/
showthread.php?t=29829&page=1&pp=25
DATE Friday, September 30th 2005 - 09:08:26 AM

NAME Incognito

NOTE

 Hi Poe. I hope you got my email about the new college student that is missing. Thanks for a great site to read.
DATE Tuesday, September 27th 2005 - 08:36:39 AM

NAME P*J

NOTE

 Thanks for the heads up, Jess.
DATE Monday, September 26th 2005 - 05:37:23 PM

NAME Jess

NOTE

 I have tried to email you. I think you should look at the latest similar case- from Moorhead, MN. Go to www.in-forum.com to view story.
DATE Monday, September 26th 2005 - 10:21:39 AM