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| name: | Kelsey Pierson |
| e-mail: | kelsey13@hotmail.com |
| Comments: |
I am an Alaskan student and have been researching this controversy for a paper I'm doing. I have a few questions. Firstly, what are your specific points for opposition? Is there any good to be gained from globalization? My standpoint on the subject, just based on the state of the world at this point in time and on the research I have done, is that though unity throughout the world is a nice ideal, the multitude of cultures, languages and viewpoints make it unrealistic. An even stronger reason for it not being able to work, is the fact that the world has never been able to find peace. It's a goal, but it has never been reached. How are we to unite the world when we are still fighting one another? |
| name: | Mohammad Murphy |
| e-mail: | imfmyarse@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | Unfortunately globalisation is a reality that, for better or worse touches our lives in ways most of us never stop to think about. I believe that the inherent greed of the people of the world bank and the imf is the clear and present evil in our society today.
I would love to hear from any like minded people on this subject, I live in Lincoln England at this time I would love to hear from anybody from your organisation that is local to me also. |
| name: | kolessoff |
| e-mail: | skol109@chat.ru |
| Comments: | I think it's not problem of globalization,
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| e-mail: | jevimuwi77@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | There are situations, oppressive and capitalist that, even
though violence and vandalism is not encouraged by this organization, ACTION has to be taken. while those who are weak are beaten by pigs and pushed around and lied to by politicians, we are fighting back. Is it enough? Are we making a noticable difference? Should we? I THINK SO. E- mail me if you agree/disagree/think that I should go fuck myself/want to fuck me-I DONT CARE! stop sitting on your asses and fight the evil of capitalist and corporate control and mass media globalization! DO IT! |
| name: | zarar ismail |
| e-mail: | zarar86@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | so you want to shut down the IMF. what are you using as a
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| name: | Oksana |
| e-mail: | o.hoshva@ukraine.com |
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| name: | Jaeger |
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| Comments: | a (Thursday October 5th 2000 08:43:42) : there is little
bit different situation, don`t you think?! |
| name: | a |
| e-mail: | a-@-a |
| Comments: | Don't fool people. What has happen so lead to riots? There
is a riot in Yugoslavia now. How do you think then? |
| name: | Jaeger |
| e-mail: | -@- |
| Comments: | How About (Wednesday October 4th 2000 11:23:02) : 1] What
about police? Police was great. And government? What`s wrong with government? I don`t care about your visit in CR, the riots were provoked from a very big part by foreigners, so it would be better, if you won`t go to visit CR. 2] Why are you talking about israeli problems? Israelis and Palestinians (if it`s possible to call them this way) have problems for (at least) 50 years from another reasons (territory, national identity; look, it`s trange, tha Arabs live in Israel as reular citizens with civic rights. If they`re doing riots in the streets, you have to stop them. You don`t find it normal? I do.) 3] Be sick of "solely ´emotional-driven´ infighting or speech". I don`t care, because I`m not using any "solely ´emotional-driven´ infighting or speech". I think, that INPEG can organize the organization better and better, but it doesn`t mean, that I will be nice now. If they will prove, that they`re able to organize something avoiding vilence, I will pay respect to them. I know, it`s difficult, but it`s not my business. |
| name: | One More |
| e-mail: | a-@-a |
| Comments: | To some Cz:
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| name: | How About |
| e-mail: | a-@-a |
| Comments: | How about the police? How about Cze Gov't? According to
your logic to "stop the INPEG", am I right to say, don't go Cz to visit, work, etc... And publicise what Cze police did to all media around the world. (don't put me to do this, I will) Also look at what happen now in Israeli and Palestian? I am really sick of solely "emotional-driven" infighting or speech. Pls give some constructive advice and take a real look at our world with the Internet. Anyway, you are right to say that INPEG, as an organiser, they have the ultimate responsibility. But I strongly believe they will organise the movement better and better and our world will be indifferent soon. Lastly, this is a link to what a scholar from Harvard says... http://www.sgi.org/quarterly/0007/interview.html Best Wishes |
| name: | Jaeger |
| e-mail: | .@. |
| Comments: | Lucia Tuesday October 3rd 2000 06:07:43 : I don`t think
that they`re responsible for the street riots, but they`re responsible in the moral way. INPEG was the organiser, so only one thing they can do is to say SORRY. Anyway, STOP INPEG. |
| name: | Gilmore's Soul |
| e-mail: | so@me.org |
| Comments: | You are right that INPEG is not wholly to blame for what
has happened. And not everybody will blame it, and that's no problem. You can be as peaceful as you want, what stays in the newspapers is not a big picture but a small picture. INPEG provided a forum for not just violent demonstrators but peaceful and hopeful protestors and will be continually connected them up for the rest of its existence. It can prove everyone one day that they could do a peaceful protest and worth-a-while movement to the whole world. For a better future. Best Wishes Soul of :-)))))) |
| name: | Happy Gilmore |
| e-mail: | thealmightycz@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | You are right that INPEG is not to blame for what has
happened. But everybody will blame it, and that's your problem. You can be as peaceful as you want, what stays in the newspapers is not your peaceful demonstrations but the destruction. INPEG provided a forum for the violent demonstrators and will be connected to them for the rest of its existence. You cannot prove anymore that you could do a peaceful protest. |
| name: | Lucia |
| e-mail: | luckamail@yahoo.com |
| Comments: |
How you can blame two people for something they are not responsible for? I can give all my sympathy to Alice and Viktor.(i saw an interview at Prima TV, good job, Alice) INPEG did a big piece of work. They prepared the demonstration in the best way they were able to do. And if you want to say or write your opinion, try it in a polite way, please. Anyway, STOP IMF and WORLD BANK. |
| name: | Mac |
| e-mail: | yes@no.cz |
| Comments: | I think INPEG as organiser of Prague demonstrations
abslolutely failed. The result of what happened last Tuesday is defacing of everything INPEG represents. Now when anybody talks in Czechia about dangers of globalisaton, then he is automatically considered to be neo- communist and almost terrosist. Also red flags with hammer, reaping-hook, Che Guevarra and so on could not provoke much sympathy among the Czech with their experiences. |
| name: | Ridha Raudha |
| e-mail: | ridha_raudha@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | I think the most important in this life is live peacefully
no war!...i love the peace and i though everybody too isn't it?? love for all....... salam Ridha raudha |
| name: | ha |
| e-mail: | thealmightycz@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | Hi guys, there is not much left of your 'heroic'
demonstrations... If you can follow the Czech comments on this site, you really made it that at least the Czechs really hate you now. As I wrote before, you are a minority, and you won't make it any further. Which intelligent human being do you think would join you with such a publicity? You chose the wrong country in this case. The Czechs are on their way to join the EU and to have a better life than they ever had during the last 50 years. The economy is stabilizing and DFI is increasing. Did you really think they would be open to your ideas? Just let it be, it won't help anyway. |
| name: | Vladimir |
| e-mail: | imperativ@gmx.net |
| Comments: | The basic difference between Seattle/Washington and Prag
was following: the protests in the US was have been carried out mostly by young american yuppies while in Prag by leftist chaots. Also there were trade unions, religious communities, farmers and ecologists in the US and almost no marxist shit. Here in Prag we've seen (I mean the S26- demos) almost wellfare-trotzkists and not a working class/intelligentsia. All this left shit is trying now (again!) to monopolize a new social movement against unfair plutocratical globalization, repeating old marcurian tales a-la hippie'68. At the same time even their gurus from the New Left Review are speaking about a collaps of the leftist ideology. I suppose the real and correct antiglobalists are people from Jubilee-2000, for instance, not the reds (we've ssen already a red-paradise). |
| name: | jenda |
| e-mail: | noemail@unfortunately |
| Comments: | To Nick :Prague demos weren´t just a sadly wasted
opportunity - they were, at least as far as the czech population is concerned, utterly counterproductive. Many czechs who had sympathized with the IPEG cause before the tuesday demo turned away. The police, before the demos considered halfwits and disliked by many czechs became national heroes overnight. Czech xenophobia(the violent thugs came from abroad) is on the rise, etc. etc. In my opinion, Viktor and Alice must take a part of the blame. There were plenty of signs before the demos that there would be violence at the demos, yet they had been neglected. Liaisons with groups suspected of violence in the past should have been avoided. If nothing else, Viktor and Alice have been incredibly naive. And their appearance on the czech media after the infamous tuesday demo was embarrasing - when pressed, they resorted to same evasions just like our "dear" politicians do.They should have known, that we, the czechs, with our proud tradition of our "velvet revolution" are oversensitive (scared stiff is probably a better expression) of ideologically tinted violence and vill overreact if there is any, however slight. They should have heard the warning bell when the news reached Prague that some italian demonstrators at the railroad border crossing with Austria placed ties on railroad tracks (a tie on a track can derail a train if the train driver does not spot in in time) and realized that people who do not hesitate to jeopardize the safety of railroad passengers are bad guys. They should have heard the warning bell when a group of anarchists last weekend kicked the h..l out of a bunch of skinheads at the main railroad station in Prague. Not that I feel sorry for the skins, in a way one might feel good that these apostles of racism and violence "tasted some of their own medicine", but I do not approve of violence even in this case, and INPEG people should have realized that there were people in Prague who are prepared to let their fists rather than their mouths to argue a case and take necessary precautions. I do not agree with many of INPEG´s objectives, but having lived in a country that has suffered many years of hard dictatorship (first the nazis and then almost immeadiately afterwards the commies) I am a staunch supporter of the freedom of expression even if it is for ideas I do not support myself. After reading your discussion piece here I must say that I find your ideas about preventing violence at demonstrations very interesting, something that could work in the future, maybe with some modifications or improvements here and there. Something that future demonstration organizers should really think about. |
| name: | tan |
| e-mail: | genius_relaxing@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | i'm so glad that you anarchists got your assses kicked in
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| name: | Nick Toe |
| e-mail: | nick_toe@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | All my sympathy to Viktor Piorecky and Alice Dvorska and
others from INPEG. They have to face abuse and threats they don’t deserve. The outrageous presentation of the demos by the Czech media was an example of brainwashing at its best. Eleven years have passed since the fall of Communism, but the Czech "journalists" obviously remember the craft of propaganda very well. That said, I think serious mistakes were made. The violence was real, even if it was blown out of all proportion by the media. Yes, only a small minority hurled stones and Molotov cocktails – some of them probably police agent-provocateurs. But the result is still a failure. If this failure is to lead to some good, we need to take lessons from it. The major strategic mistake was to decide to "blockade the meeting". The meeting was effectively blockaded already – by the police. In Seattle or Washington the demonstrators were stopping the delegates from going into the meeting, and the police had to try to disperse them. In Prague the situation was the opposite. The Centre was surrounded by the police, and the protestors were trying to break through. That is a recipe for confrontation, in which protestors become attackers, while the police appears to act purely defensively (even though that was not completely true, of course). In other words, the original plan was going to make protestors look aggressive, however peacefully they would try to break through. The media were heavily biased and would jump at any opportunity to portray the protests as violent. So it was vital that the demos remain as peaceful as possible. This meant trying to persuade everyone of the need for non-violence. It also called for a strategy of dealing with those who refused. Of course, this is easy to say. But there are things that could have been done. Only the organisers should have been allowed at the front of the march. Members of INPEG should have been clearly marked – just like the demonstration stewards are in the West. Also, it might have been an idea to give out armbands to those committed to non-violence – white, or yellow, or whatever. That way it would have been harder to portray all the protestors as violent thugs, which is what happened. It also might have made sense to organise a "peace police", or active non-violence, to try to physically stop those who were too aggressive. Of course, this would have meant scuffles within the demo itself. But would that be worse than what actually happened? It is easy to be wise after the event. Again, I feel sorry for INPEG members, and I do not want to add to their problems. But I think we must learn from what happened, so that next time things are different. The Prague demos were, sadly, a wasted opportunity. The violence obscured the message of the protest – the horrible nature of IMF/WB, the killing machine of their programmes, the need to resist. That is a shame. Let’s do better next time. |
| name: | Gina |
| e-mail: | amigagina@correoweb.com |
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| e-mail: | fuck@mmf.wb |
| Comments: | Bez komentáře - zpráva z MF Dnes: Alice Dvorská z hnutí
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| name: | Pedo |
| e-mail: | pedof@pobox.sk |
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| e-mail: | hatto@seznam.cz |
| Comments: | Tolik ubohosti, co predvadi vetsina prizpevku. "Ja vas
postrilim, vy bando chuliganska... Policie mela byt tvrdsi." Vzdycky me zajimalo, odkud se v tricatych letech rekrutovali fasisti - ted uz to vim - ze zapruzenejch malomestaku, ktery zrejme nemohli prenest pres srdce, jak si muze nekdo dovolit porusit jejich zasmradlej spolecenskej "poradek". |
| name: | Alena |
| e-mail: | aberrant@csolve.net |
| Comments: | Sorry, I got the name wrong, pane Piorecky. I hope it is all
right now. |
| name: | Alena |
| e-mail: | aberrant@csolve.net |
| Comments: | Vazeny pane Piorsky a pani Alice,
Jako kazdy v cele noveho hnuti v historii jste dnes urazeni a zesmesnovani nejenom svymi odpurci, ale i lidmi kterym se snazite otevrit oci pred novym nebezpecim. Kazdemu myslicimu cloveku by melo byt jasne, ze vytrznosti ktere se staly nebyly vami planovany a bohuzel se daji ocekavat pri kazde vetsi akci obsahujici tolik ruznych skupin. Obdivuji vasi osobni odvahu a preji Vam mnoho uspechu. |
| name: | Maretin |
| e-mail: | fuck@mmf.wb |
| Comments: | Prokazuje se vina, ne nevina. Jistě, orgány v trestním
řízení budou prokazovat vinu a obžalovaní svou nevinu. Tak je to na celém světě, vážený pane (tedy demokratickém světě, ne v tom, který by tu chtěli znovu zavést INPEG, YA BASTA a podobní). |
| name: | Karel |
| e-mail: | karell@seznam.cz |
| Comments: | Prokazuje se vina, ne nevina. Jestliže do Prahy přijelo tolik demonstrantů, ukazuje to nakonec, že tyto myšlenky lidi oslovují. I když ne se vším při demonstracích je možno být spokojen a vytloukání výloh (opravdu policie nemohla být v tu chvíli na Václavském náměstí?) a dlažební kostky jsou neomluvitelné. |
| name: | Dr. Dre |
| e-mail: | dre@mail.cz |
| Comments: | Lituju, ze byla policie natolik mirna. Pokud by bylo na me,
zacal bych nasilne demonstranty strilet do nohou a dal bych jim takovou nakladacku, ze by se z toho posrali. Pouzivate odpornou demagogii, velmi podobnou te komunisticke. Zijete ve srackach a parazitujete na slusnych lidech. Bezduvodne nicite. Kolik z vas neco vi o MMF a SB? Nechapu kde se ve me bere tolik nenavisti, ale s radosti bych vas nakopal do prdele a poslal do pracovnich taboru. Velmi by me zajimalo jaka mocenska skupina za vami stoji. Chcipnete vy lidska spodino!!! |
| name: | Karel Hujer |
| e-mail: | info@hujer.com |
| Comments: | "...neumíte vést diskusi na úrovni....nase nevina je
jasna..." fascinuje me drzost s jakou si dovolite tohle tvrdit, kez by jste byli nuceni vsechny skody nahradit, coz je ovsem nerealne - uz jenom z toho duvodu, ze takova spodina spolecnosti tezko pozna nekdy vyznam slov jako prace a prinos pro spolecnost. |
| name: | Martin |
| e-mail: | fuck@mmf.wb |
| Comments: | Tu nevinu budete musit prokázat. Orgány činné v trestním
řízení Vám k tomu dají příležitost. Jen posečkejte, až vyhodnotí všechny materiály. |
| name: | Piorecký |
| e-mail: | a@a |
| Comments: | Vážení diskutéři,
Nechápu proč neumíte vést diskusi na úrovni. Mluvíte na úrovní nejnižší společenské chátry. Tolik vulgarismů jsem nečekal. Každému normálně uvažujícímu člověk je naše nevina jasná. Také Alice je velmi pobouřená tolika narážkami na naše osoby. Jste nevychovaní asociální sprosťáci. INPEG Forever |
| name: | Odpůrce odpůrců |
| e-mail: | manynanek@volny.cz |
| Comments: | Výzva!
Zrušte INPEG a všechny přidružené rádoby odpůrce MMF a SB. Jejich TUPOST je nesnesitelnou zbraní proti lidkosti. P.S.: Co je ekonomického na tom, zničit Prahu?... |
| name: | hasík |
| e-mail: | hasik@atlas.cz |
| Comments: | Martin,
you are really a great hero. At least you must feel so. Or a coward with a hidden face? |
| name: | nekdo |
| e-mail: | nekdo@hovno.cz |
| Comments: | jste banda curaku |
| name: | Ivan |
| e-mail: | ivan@seznam.cz |
| Comments: | Copak se vám to stalo s českou diskusí? Nelíbila se vám??? |
| name: | Goofy |
| e-mail: | goofy@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | Ksindle, mela vas vsechny policie poradne zmlatit jen tomu
rozumite lidska hovada! |
| name: | Pavel |
| e-mail: | k01@altavista.com |
| Comments: | You should read czech part of this discussion, more 95 % of
czech people is against violence of activists (I feel terrorists is better word) and fully support policemen. Czech part of discussion was therefore removed !!!!???? In my opinion throwing stones and Molotov coctails is not good idea in open discusion. If you really want to help to countries in Africa, you can help more efficiently by working directly in these places. |
| name: | Martin |
| e-mail: | fuck@imf.wb |
| Comments: | Thanx all comrades from abroad who came to Czech rep. and
helped us to fight back against IMF and WB. YA BASTA did a great job and Spanish and Polish people in the Blue march were really heroic. Thanx to samba bands and other musicians. Thanx for banners and carnival. Thanx for solidarity actions in other countries. People in jail are being tortured (and cops are heroes), public opinion is against us (for fucking McDonalds windows and TV prop - in this sense it would be better if violence wouldnt happen), but still - S26 was the D-Day in my life. THANK YOU. |
| name: | Hasík |
| e-mail: | hasik@atlas.cz |
| Comments: | Critical thinking
has been given to some from nature, the rest of us has to learn it. The discussion shows, that we, Czech citizens, started to think critically. This is why we are enemies and had to be eliminated from discussion. Nothing new – we remember that everybody with critical thinking was at least a “class enemy” and had to be eradicated. Also his family – children, parents, brothers and sisters were prosecuted. Not because of throwing stones on policemen, not because of damaging that time centers of influence and power. Just because of critical thinking - the most powerful weapon against ignorance. Thanks to globalization only this server can eradicate discussion but there are many more giving the opportunity of a free speech to those who do not want to be silent. |
| name: | Hasík |
| e-mail: | hasik@atlas.cz |
| Comments: | Kritické myšlení
mají někteří od přírody, my ostatní se ho musíme učit. Diskuse ukazuje, že jsme začali kriticky přemýšlet i o posledních událostech. První kritickou otázkou je o co vlastně opravdu šlo. Mnozí se domnívají, že o vyhrabávání komunistického kostlivce. Pokud ano, byly metody obvyklé a měli jsme je očekávat (mnozí lépe informování je skutečně očekávali a my ostatní jsme jim nevěřili). Nikdo se nebude divit, až se prokáže, že vše platily komunistické, maoistické a podobné strany a frakce, které také své „aktivisty“ vyslaly a vybavily hesly. Jiní předpokládají také angažovanost vlivných kapitálových skupin, které jsou zatím mimo centra mezinárodního vlivu a proto financují akce, od kterých očekávají přínos pro sebe. Kdyby byly akce chytřejší, mohly získat podporu světové veřejnosti a poskytnout odrazový můstek těm, kdo by rádi zasedli na vlivná místa ve světové finanční elitě. Jenže akce chytřejší být nemohly. Sponzoři k prospěchu nás všech v tomto městě a v tomto státu vsadili na špatné koně – podívejte se na arogantní, nesympatické a na první pohled nedůvěru budící organizátory. Ptáte-li se proč si je vybrali, napadá mně jen „Vrána k vráně sedá, podobný podobného hledá“. Takže ani ti první, ani ti druzí, ani my ostatní nevěříme, že všichni „aktivisté“ přijeli do Prahy za své a že místní organizátoři nepobírají podporu ze zahraničí. Alespoň část pravdy brzy vyjde najevo a pak ať Bůh chrání všechny ty piorecké, dvorské a ostatní. Jestliže snad ještě někdo věří v jejich dobré úmysly, pak o svou víru brzy přijde. Proč? Na to dává odpověď kritické myšlení. |
| name: | Alena |
| e-mail: | aberrant@csolve.net |
| Comments: | Can someone tell me why I am not able to access the czech
part of the discussion forum? Have I been ban for polite language? It seems to be so rare on that site. |
| name: | ALENA |
| e-mail: | aberrant@csolve.net |
| Comments: | test |
| name: | harry wood |
| e-mail: | woodharry@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | I wonder how many of these posts are from cops trying to
incite dissension among us? We can work together despite the differences we may have over tactics. My personal two cents: the system won't surrender its power without a fight. We have to be ready to defend ourselves... and that is what a lot of the violence in Prague looked like to me: self-defence. Or at the very least it's a reaction to the violence of the system: poverty, starvation, exploitation. These are also violence we have a right to defend ourselves from. |
| name: | Come On :-) |
| e-mail: | link@up.NGOs |
| Comments: | http://ragingsearch.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?qa=4&q=%
2BWorld+Scientists% 27+Warning+to+Humanity&exc=&search=Search&kti=&kurl=&khost=& kdom=&klnk=&kanc=&kimg=&dts=fix&d2=0&d0d=1&d0m=1&d0y=1970&d1 d=31&d1m=12&d1y=2000 |
| name: | Martin Gust |
| e-mail: | rrr@rrr |
| Comments: | Thank you so very much for your peaceful fight for my
better future but next time try it at home, please. It ´s a fuckin´ pain cleaning after you. |
| name: | Uganda Anarchist |
| e-mail: | uganda@democrat.com |
| Comments: | WE should start blowing up projects that feed IMF & World
Bank. If we don't do this soon, we'll all become slaves in their capital detention camps as in the Cocoa fields of Ivory coast or Carpet jails in India. Explosives are easy to make! |
| name: | joram |
| e-mail: | joram@geek.com |
| Comments: | True Vladimir,
We should also support referendums that ask the masses if they should continue pampering IMF/WB pigeons? I think this way we could fuck the capitalist very deep! |
| name: | Vladimir |
| e-mail: | imperativ@gmx.net |
| Comments: | Some more words: If you want to change a system stop
borowing money from there anf free the labor with free (interest-free) money! Deprive a state from its monopoly on money! Build up independent labor-service-exchange-circles (as SEL in France, for instance). Act rationally, not affective! Love a sinner, hate a sin. |
| name: | Vladimir |
| e-mail: | imperativ@gmx.net |
| Comments: | I was a witness of everything what was up in Prag. I agree
with the most of chechs an anarchistical crashdown of streets and business has nothing to do with a struggle for our common better future. Just think about: all the demolished businesses are for sure insuranced. That means they'll have they money back (perhaps even more as a real lost was). And where from this money are coming? From banks, exploting people. So, at last, anarchy and banks are in the same line. The anarchists are just sick of violence and hidden ruling-complexes. Look at theirs leaders: almost all of them are schizophrenics suffering from several manias and looking for satellites. They impose at other people (mostly young idiots from bad families and unemployees) their queer ideas of "fighting system", being at the same time just hidden collaborants with the last one. |
| name: | manu |
| e-mail: | manu@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | Ýf this is true please don't talk about your lovely
heavenly democratic country. Don't say "we are happy, we don't want trouble." |
| name: | manu |
| e-mail: | manu@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | Shocking Human Rights Abuses Faced by Protestors in Jail
Police Brutality Widespread, most severe for Czechs & Israelis PRAGUE - In addition to the mass denial of the legal rights, individuals have faced extreme brutality in Czech Jails. Paul Rosenthal from Seattle Washington who was released this morning from the Olsanska jail in Prague after forty hours states, "What is happening inside the Czech jails is more than frightening. People have no rights, they are being beaten severely, they are disappearing. Women are being forced to strip in front of male guards and perform exercises. People with serious medical problems have been denied help." The following are accounts confirmed by people that have been released from jail: &Mac183; Women have been strip searched by male officers and have been forced to perform physical exercises for their enjoyment........................ http://www.destroyimf.org/dimfpages/news.html |
| name: | FC&FSC |
| e-mail: | tuttle@netcourrier.com |
| Comments: | A Czek personn, a german, an indian, an african,
whith their job, are equally usefull for Humanity. It's incredibule that so much differencies could be between their salairies. It's the effect of capitalism. |
| name: | The Silver Boy |
| e-mail: | M.Boukiour@student.unimaas.nl |
| Comments: | Economic globalisation has only one purpose: to keep
economic stability. This is not a good thing. It means that rich people keep getting richer and the poor keep getting poorer. We have to fight this. But i dont believe in violence, i believe in education. |
| name: | Try It... It works... :-) |
| e-mail: | a@a |
| Comments: | A book: "Battling the Inner Dummy" - The Craziness of
Apparently Normal People |
| name: | Capitalist American PIG |
| e-mail: | cecil@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | Hey.. nice work TERRORISTS! Violence is the only way I see..
Hey what do you people do for a living? Do you grow your own food and make your own clothes? Do you live in a home? or under a bush? Keep on throwing those rocks and pumping that TECHNO! oh, and drop some MDMA for me.. wheeee! |
| name: | Initiative Support Social Globalisation |
| e-mail: | ticket@to.neworder |
| Comments: | Worldwide Working Class Unification, Worldwide
Environmental Groups Unification, Worldwide Internationalist Unification, etc... total world wired population is 150m people... hope some people can link people up for a sustainable future. And have a worldwide discussion. If governments around the world cannot solve problems, such as wars, poverty, misuse of technologies..., let us do it with the help of the Internet. I am awaiting someone's good news. :-) Best Wishes. |
| name: | Juan King |
| e-mail: | eererer@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | I think the (well documented) problem with large groups of
people is their singular inability to think things through rationally, no matter how intelligent large numbers of their constituent elements may be. I have many many problems with the current state of affairs, particularly those relating to the behaviour of Western society to the worlds poor. However, if presented with state socialism as the only possible alternative i'd choose capitalism without a second thought, I can only presume the people who advocate it now are either hopelessly caught up in ideology or have more sinister motives. It always has and always will be true that peoples morals mould the system rather than vice versa. The almost universal misconception seems to be that capitalism refers to one set of rules, none of which can be altered by popular consent, and so the only way to improve things is to get rid of it entirely. This is clearly false and if as much energy were spent examining ways to improve things by adaption rather than violent overhaul the powers that be might be forced to stop presenting dissidents as mindless hippies. Same goes for globalisation and global free trade. Neither are necessarily bad for the worlds poor. Global economic integration would be great if it meant universal tax/benefit and environmental legislation, a devoloution of power away from the west etc. but thats not what the IMF/WTO really want. The fact that they can present anyone who opposes their methods of globalisation as anti- globalisation supports their cause rather than yours. Global free trade might be a benefit to the poor, but the reality is that the WTO only want to push for third world countries to lower trade barriers. I've heard no mention of a lowering of the huge tariffs on food imports which wreck the competitive advantage of the third world agricultural sector or the quotas which dictate the number of cars importable from south korea. Similarly, allowing companies to trade in third world countries would be beneficial to all if they were obliged to observe the employment laws of their country of origin rather than the country they set up in. These kind of changes would really benefit the world economy, but the only way they can happen is if enough people want them to and realise they can make a difference. All I see at the moment is a combination of naive kids and mischeivous trouble makers who are eating away at the sympathy for their gripes by offering solutions which might well prove to be worse. |
| name: | Gabriel |
| e-mail: | paco@jones.com |
| Comments: | Lovely! Either we are communists or we are fascists. I
don't agree with the violence showed in Praga, but it seems that now a lot of people know about it. Thanks to the violents? This is a terrible world, and if you don't react with all your means at hand (stones, for instance), some people (IMF, WCO, etc) won't take you seriously... England had to be bombed by the jews in Palestine, and by the IRA in Ulster to react and make something. I wonder if they (the IMF) would have ever considered the existence of the poor in case the protest would have been less radical. I still want to believe that they would... |
| name: | Gilmore Go Home |
| e-mail: | -@- |
| Comments: | what about a C&C? "Communism + Capitalism", take out the
best among them. |
| name: | Otto Vokal |
| e-mail: | vokal@mbox.dkm.cz |
| Comments: | You are only commies who have never lived in communism! Get
out and TRY IT!!! |
| name: | Stavros S Greel citizen |
| e-mail: | Damongr@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | In replay to supporters of the IMF and the World Bank: Joe
has mentioned that the job of the World Bank is to help the impoverished nations that it has been established to enhance the economy of the developing countries by means of lending huge sums of money to their governments. However, this support results in the developing countries becoming financial and moreover political dependencies of the developed world. You see, the developing countries face lack of industries, technology knowledge, technical equipment; in other words, inability to exploit their resources to the advantage of their people. Industries and other high-technology companies with global interests take advantage of this weakness. They invest large sums of money through the world bank in these countries devastated economies. Without any worrying national competitors they monopolize the exploitation of the national resources. So, they steal the wealth of people in the name of free trade. Moreover, this lack of national competitors drives them to actions that abolish human rights and destroy the environment. With large commissions to the governments they exploit the natural resources paying no attention to the regulations that protect the environment. If there are some dissidents or groups that stand problem in their way they don’t hesitate to get rid of them. Furthermore, the economy of the developing countries is based mainly on agriculture. The majority of people that live in the third world are occupied with agriculture and earn their living by selling their fruits and vegetables in the national trades. The products that are imported have much lower price and take much longer time to spoil. Therefore, they deluge the national trades and push aside the others. This results in the financial devastation of the populous peasants and in destitution of the vast majority of the population. Now as far as the IMF is concerned, it’s main role is the insurance of the reimbursement of the debts that the undeveloped or developing countries owe to their “benefactors”. In order to accomplish this the IMF has taken over the control of state economy. They have imposed measures of great frugality to the citizens of the undeveloped world. There are cuts in education(many countries demand fees for going to “public” school), in provision, care. Imagine how many people live in destitution or even die of starvation. It’s cruel and the same time ironic to support that the IMF and the World Bank follow their way to create a better world. Their only policy is to save the money of the privileged minority. It’s sheer hypocrisy even believing that capitalism aims at the disappearance of discrimination in the relations between human beings. Capitalism is based on discrimination. It’s main aim is to ensure the reigning of the privileged minority over the much poorer majority. I can justify the favorable attitudes of some Chechs fellows towards capitalism. You see, your republic has had a life of 11 years. You haven’t seen a lot of changes in this period. Now, you must be passing the stage of a sufficient welfare state. Here in Greece we passed this stage from 1981-1985. Later you will face the vast privatization and many dismissals in an effort to let the national trade free to the global one. Then you will remember me my friends. Furthermore, I would like to make a comment on the mass movement of Prague. You fellows only refer to velvet “revolution” but you avoid referring to “Spring of Prague”. That was a real revolution of active citizens who fought for freedom and socialism against state capitalism and party dictatorship. I will never forget the workers that were killed by the secret police in the demonstrations the photograph of a young person who faces the tank and calls the red soldiers to stop evading his country. Will you? If someone asked me to denominate anarchist a european nation, I would choose Chechs without second thought. May that atavistic call reign in your hearts and souls. In the next battle capitalism shall face us united!! |
| name: | Initiative Support NGOs' Globalisation |
| e-mail: | i@don't.kwow |
| Comments: | http://www.ems.org/index.html |
| name: | Pavel Korensky |
| e-mail: | pavelk@anet.cz |
| Comments: | To habib:
Contrary to your opinion, I am proud that I am Czech. If it will be necessary, I will be prepared to go to fight and defend my country against all attackers. But I really do not why you think that the bunch of drunken and drugged peoples which yesterday demolished the city of Prague was fighting for us ? In your message, you wrote "Thank you YABASTA". Are you really so stupid that you do not uderstand that YABASTA is a bunch of stupid commies, which have only one intention - to destruct the democratic society and steal the private property of normal peoples ??? to elzet: I know you for a long time. Maybe for 15 years now (rememeber the times of Mikrobaze?). I can understand that you choose a different way of life. After all, it was your choice. But, please be so kind and do not try to convince me (or other peoples) that your way of life is the only right one and do not try to convice the rest of world that the peoples in Czech republic are slaves. In past years, I visited a lot of countries in Africa, Asia and South America. I even was in Cuba last year. So I think that I can compare a bit. Currently, we are living in one of the most democratic (read free) countries in the world and peoples in our country are no slaves. I choosed a different way of life and now, I am a rich capitalistic pig :-) Now, I am free, I have a plenty of time to travel, to study etc. etc. Yes, we can start a philosophical discussion if your way of life is better than mine. But I am sure that are intelligent enough that you must see that those peoples, which started the war in the streets of Prague, are only criminals which should be in jail. I am sorry, but if someone is trying to destroy the private property, I do not have any excuse for him. P.S. Excuse-me my poor english. |
| name: | Bobfic |
| e-mail: | bobfic@montauk.com |
| Comments: | I differ in understanging the dialectic which has affected
the Czech people. They were, after all, only recently brought under the capitalist system. Further, I question ability of the the individual at elzet@bajt.cz to represent the character of the Czechoslovakian people as he does. I think that the point that has to be understood is that people everywhere are concerned about our system of capitalism and what it means to the prospects of our species upon this planet. Wall Street's concern is with the imperative dynamic of an economic system which is really beyond anyone's control. It is only the opening of the vast natural resource wealth of the former Soviet Union which has allowed for the current unprecedented upswing in the U.S. economy. The current system of capitalist economic management knows only a gas pedal and has only the most rudimentary system of brakes. We must look to a satisfactory transition to an alternative satisfactory to all. I am most concerned with the extinguishment of a sophisticated of economic development in Yugoslavia by the Beast. I just read that elderly women are being seen begging in Moscow. |
| name: | elzet |
| e-mail: | elzet@bajt.cz |
| Comments: | Leave the Czechs alone. They will never understand you. They
do not have your ideas and thoughts in their minds. Most of them dream about quiet life, no matter what is going around. They are no big exemption. You can meet such people everywhere. I understand anarchists open door for other nonviolent groups for their interaction with world bosses. It is really neccessary not to lose democracy under pressure of capitalistic beast. The beast understands power only. The Czechs do not feel their slavery. They think they are absolutely free. It is funny paradox. But can you convince slavers about their slavery if they are convinced they are absolutely free? They do not practice Zen:)) Try to understand them before you shout on them. They will defend their slavery till they die. They can not imagine any other way of life than this one which they go through now. They want to have things and money. But they do not understand they are going to be more and more poor not only materially - they also have sold their souls to the beast. That is why people here do not like you. Waking up will last many years and will be slow. Take it just as it is. |
| name: | habib |
| e-mail: | habib@mybox.cz |
| Comments: | There's no help for such countries as CZ. I'm ashamed to be
a Czech. As in 1620, 1938, 1939, 1948, 1968 there was the "fighting Czechs" only watching the foreigners really fighting for them. As usually everybody wants to change the world by means of sitting on the ass at home here in CZ. No wonder we are in a deep shit forever. Thank you YABASTA. |
| name: | Jiri |
| e-mail: | holiday@plz.pvtnet.cz |
| Comments: | to "heroic" subcomandate MARCOS:
------- Failure Reasons -------- User not listed in public Name & Address Book tostupidrightwingersg@quegw01 |
| name: | Jiri |
| e-mail: | holiday@volny.cz |
| Comments: | to "heroic" subcomandate MARCOS:
------- Failure Reasons -------- User not listed in public Name & Address Book tostupidrightwingersg@quegw01 |
| name: | Jiri |
| e-mail: | holiday@volny.cz |
| Comments: | Meaning of Czech people:
40%....police action was adequate 52%....police action was too soft 6%.....do not know You finnished in our country. If the IMF make next session always in other countries - you will finnish in all these countries... Inpegs are only criminals! |
| name: | Subcomandante Marcos, EZLN |
| e-mail: | tostupidrightwingersg@yell.com |
| Comments: | To all chech people who did not take part in the protests
The Idiots that try to stop INPEG from its protest against the WTO are all law-and-order rightwingers who would impose fascism on us all if they could. The czech people have a long history of people's struggles and will soon see that the anarchists who battled with the police were to young to understand that violence damages the cause of the international anti-WTO movement We say: Continue the combat! VIVA EZLN! VIVA INPEG! VIVA the international comittes against the IMF! |
| name: | Subcomandante Marcos, EZLN |
| e-mail: | tostupidrightwingersg@yell.com |
| Comments: | To all chech people who did not take part in the protests
The Idiots that try to stop INPEG from its protest against the WTO are all law-and-order rightwingers who would impose fascism on us all if they could. The czech people have a long history of people's struggles and will soon see that the anarchists who battled with the police were to young to understand that violence damages the cause of the international anti-WTO movement We say: Continue the combat! VIVA EZLN! VIVA INPEG! VIVA the international comittes against the IMF! |
| name: | Joe |
| e-mail: | joebob@jethro.net |
| Comments: | Seriously, where can I get some information about the
alleged injustices of the World Bank? I'd really like to see some facts... because right now to me the protest seems meaningless. Has any protester even opened an economics textbook? It is one of the most basic concepts in economics - comparitive advantage - that justifies globalization. Globalization can only help the people of the third world, as long as human rights are not violated. Or have any of you read through some of the World Bank's numerous publications? The job of the World Bank is to help these impoverished nations... and they work hard and keep statistics that these nations could never afford to do themselves. Both you and the World Bank want the same thing - except that you expect it to come about through generousity, and the World Bank expects it to come about through capitalism. I wonder which is the more likely avenue. Believe me, the delegates that you attack for flying first class on a plane could make a lot more money in the private sector. The World Bank was established to be big enough and daring enough to make loans to countries that conventional banks would refuse, not to be super- profitable. So it seems to me that you've got the wrong enemy, or I'm missing something. So post some links, or the names of some books that detail, without exaggeration, exactly what the IMF and World Bank have done wrong. |
| name: | Friend from the Paradise? |
| e-mail: | thealmightycz@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | Try my way, try... try... try... try...
http://www.mkgandhi.org/momgbook/chap22.html ... it works... it works.... it works... it works... India is independent then. :-) |
| name: | Jack Snacky |
| e-mail: | eat_snacky_smores00@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | I'd like to quote a story that comes to mind when I look at
what is going on in Prague these days. The whole thing reminds me a passage from the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test (Tom Wolfe) where Ken Kesey is invited to be a speaker at a rally against the Vietnam war in 1965. Allow me to paraphrase: Kesey shows up with his posse, the Merry Pranksters - outfitted in full psychedelic military get up - insane day-glo uniforms, painted wooden guns, turrets hammered into their bus - and takes the stage, second to last, the time when the organizers really need to get the crowd riled up for the march. The Pranksters are scurrying around behind him goofing around with their electric guitars and posing for battle. Kesey starts in a low conversational drawl, "You know, you're not going to stop this war with this rally, by marching . . . That's what they do . . . They hold rallies and they march . . . They've been having wars for ten thousand years and your not going to stop it this way . . . Ten thousand years, and this is the game they play to do it . . holding rallies and having marches . . . and that's the game you're laying . . . their game." And then he pulls out a harmonica and starts blowing, "Home . . . home on the range . . . " People are looking around - did they hear that right? The Pranksters chime in with some looney riffs. And Kesey comes back, "I was just looking at the speaker who was up here before me . . . and I couldn't hear what he was saying . . . but I could hear the sound of it . . . and I could hear your sound coming back at him . . . and I could see the gestures and I could see his jaw sticking out like this silhouetted against the sky . . . and you know who I saw . . . and who I heard . . Mussolini . . . I saw and I heard Mussolini here just a few minutes ago . . Yep . . You're playing their game. We;ve heard all this and seen all this before, but we keep on doing it . . . I went to see the Beatles last month and I heard 20,000 girls screaming together at the Beatles . . . and I could hear what they were screaming, either . . . But you don't have to . . . their screaming Me! Me! Me! Me! . . . I'm Me! . . . That's the cry of the ego, and that's the cry of this rally . . . Me! Me! Me! Me! . . . And that's why wars get fought . . . ego . . . Because enough people want to scream Pay attention to Me . . . Yep, you're playing their game . . ." Harmonica break, fermenting guitar chaos, organizers boiling on the sidelines. "Who the hell invited this bastard?" Suddenly the honking stops. "There's only one thing to do . . . there's only one thing's gonna do any good at all . . . And that's everybody just look at it, look at the war, and turn your backs and say . . . Fuck it . . . [harmonica break] . . . just look at it and turn away and say . . . Fuck it . . . Fuck it . . . friends." |
| name: | Bezcek |
| e-mail: | bezcek@atlas.cz |
| Comments: | I dont believe some of us can say a good word for miss
Dvorecka or Mr. Bastard Piorecky. If someone said that all the actions were going the way they want them to go after activists attacks police, ambulances, train (what the fuck are you - madmans?) and plunder shops, I dont think it means: we cannot do anything. we arent respondable for it... So shut up your mouth and fuck off, please....And if you wanna destroy some other town, try Singapore or Bangkok (your lovely third world) |
| name: | Bezcek |
| e-mail: | bezcek@atlas.cz |
| Comments: | I dont believe some of us can say a good word for miss
Dvorecka or Mr. Bastard Piorecky. If someone said that all the actions were going the way they want them to go after activists attacks police, ambulances, train (what the fuck are you - madmans?) and plunder shops, I dont think it means: we cannot do anything. we arent respondable for it... So shut up your mouth and fuck off, please....And if you wanna destroy some other town, try Singapore or Bangkok (your lovely third world) |
| name: | Bezcek |
| e-mail: | bezcek@atlas.cz |
| Comments: | I dont believe some of us can say a good word for miss
Dvorecka or Mr. Bastard Piorecky. If someone said that all the actions were going the way they want them to go after activists attacks police, ambulances, train (what the fuck are you - madmans?) and plunder shops, I dont think it means: we cannot do anything. we arent respondable for it... So shut up your mouth and fuck off, please....And if you wanna destroy some other town, try Singapore or Bangkok (your lovely third world) |
| name: | Super Happy Gilmore |
| e-mail: | thealmightycz@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | what about sites like these http://www.cokespotlight.org or
http://www.clickforcleanair.org or http://passport.panda.org for what we want. :-) |
| name: | Al Goree |
| e-mail: | ET@ET.org |
| Comments: | Ok... Ok... ok... ok... Next time. Future is Ours. Movement
will go on and peacefully. We appear losing a battle, but we will surely eventually win the War and peacefully and very soon. Otherwise, ET go home :-) Remember to elect me. |
| name: | Jack Snacky |
| e-mail: | eat_snacky_smores00@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | Nord,
Your defense of the INPEG lady is noble. I did not see the interview and so can't say too much, but just saying that the violent groups were not part of her group does not sound like taking responibility - that sounds like good old fashioned "passing the buck." "Wasn't me, Mom. I tried to tell them to stop. We just wanted to play with the dog..." If debt relief is INPEGs thing - I'm all for it, though I don't think that demonstrations are the way to get stuff done in that world. In any case you have to get a new catch phrase because "economic globalization", has been going on since Marco Polo and it is messed up but you are not going to stop it and the World Bank and IMF really have very little to do with it. |
| name: | Very Happy Gilmore |
| e-mail: | thealmightycz@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | Hey, Japanese Being. Your links are very helpful, thx. |
| name: | Nord |
| e-mail: | globalvillageus@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | How dare you humiliate another person? The spokesperson
for “INPEG” had the courage to go on an interview to say that those violent demonstrators did not belong with her group and that they did everything they could to prevent violence. You guys know that their group is not a government, doesn’t have any police, and has no ministry, has no funds. Let’s be fair: which one of your statesmen has as much courage to admit their mistakes, indulgences and weaknesses: common characteristics of politicians. Have they given the nation a considerate response on the billions given away from nation’s funds to dubious clients of IPB and Komercni bnaks? You talk about damages? Add up the numbers see if the total is anywhere near 50 bil. loss of Komercni bank, which of course will be covered from YOUR MONEY. If you feel your statesmen are that honest then you may condemn that honorable woman who tolerated the ridiculous manner of commercial and unprofessional journalism and yet proved that she was not afraid of RSPONSIBILITY. I don not approve of the violence. Neither does she. Don’t forget that it is easy to condemn the small guys but do you dare to go out, face the BIG GUYS, peacefully protest and tell them your country, your world and your values are not FOR SALE? Let’s be honest: in the “Velvet Revolution” you were challenging the “dead bear”! These are “alive jackals”. No “velvet” here pal, these are strong teeth and claws. Don’t you see it? If not, then you can live a happy life no matter communism or whatever. Those guys call our world a “global village” and have come to Prague to solve its problems. How dare they say that? They are a group of people who think this world is too small and that they can run it just like a village as they want. I am sure it feels right when they fly first class, stay a day in London, another in Hamburg, another in Bangkok, pursue their dubious businesses, buy a taste of female gender everywhere and think the world is easily reachable: it is so small just like a village! Yep, it feels right. While a great number of people who live in poverty on less than a dollar a day can hardly afford to travel beyond their miserable villages & towns. You bet they don’t feel the world is like a “village”. Those people surviving in the middle of bloody wars are more likely to think this world as a cruel rotten BIG HOLE with no way out. That much for our “global village”! Their “Wrong Attitude” would make it impossible for them to solve the problems of this world, even if they wanted to. I apologize to the spokeswoman of “INPEG” on behalf of those who misinterpret her courage and hour. I also congratulate her on her great character and mind. |
| name: | Happy Gilmore |
| e-mail: | thealmightycz@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | Hey Chinese being, why don't you demonstrate against
asteroids? |
| name: | Mirek |
| e-mail: | mk5@atlas.cz |
| Comments: | My last word: I can understand you want to protest against
organizations you find destructive for the world. But I don't understand the violent way of protest. We showed to all the world 11 years ago it is possible to make changes in the peaceful way. It is the reason we don't understand yesterday. Your protest incensed all people in Czech against your (maybe good) ideas. Don't believe we changed in that 11 years. Peaceful protest could be supported by our people. |
| name: | Nick |
| e-mail: | nobody@nowhere.com |
| Comments: | besides the moral issue, violence can be pretty
counterproductive. keep in mind that it is VERY limited tactically by the fact that they have all the big guns. if you fight our battle on their terrain - you lose. |
| name: | Jirka |
| e-mail: | glee@seznam.cz |
| Comments: | But you forget one thing my friend, Turkey is a barbaric
country. Can you imagine a peaceful overthrow of a government in Turkey as it has happened here almost 11 years ago? I don't think so. Let's face it you people are more prone to take violent action. You resort to argument by force rather than by reason. To me a people who prefer to deal with each other by force as opposed to reason are barbaric. |
| name: | UnHappy Gilmore |
| e-mail: | thealmightycz@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | http://www.discover.com/oct_00/gthere.html?
article=wellintro.html |
| name: | don |
| e-mail: | don@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | This is the violence overdose for you. Thing about who
create this picture. Go home and sleep well. The following table over the period of January 1, 1994, until November 1, 1944 (284 days) reveals the truth about the situation of human rights in Turkey: People killed in shootings with state security forces: 4.500 Number of burned down villages and hamlets by forces of the state: 2.295 Number of murdered people as a result of attacks by the counter-guerrilla: 445. Murdered people as a result of custody, torture and summary executions: 315 "Disappeared" in custody: 239. Murders by "unknown" perpetrators: 281 Number of political convictions: 1.037 People tortured in custody: 12.966 Found guilty of subversive thoughts and members of parliament in jail: 107 Number of associations, unions and organs of the press attacked by the police: 152 Total of demanded jail sentences and fines: 939 years in jail and 333 billion TL. |
| name: | dok |
| e-mail: | dok@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | I am from Turkey. I see that the police fights and arrests
hunderds of students and workers at every protest. Violence is sometimes necassary and sometimes not. Self defense is always acceptable. If you organize a protest like this and fight against great powers otherwise is impossible. There is nothing to surprise. Mirak, world is a violent place. If you want peace go to heaven. Maybe there was some. They are using violence againts us. Every day and every hour. At home at work at streets. If you watching tv you will see violence. If you read comic books you will see violence. If you surf at internet... Your children can’t escape from this. Your peace = surrender |
| name: | Happy Gilmore |
| e-mail: | thealmightycz@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | Fuck you very much! Exactly what I told you earlier has
happened: The only impression that is left of your demonstrations is that you are bunch of violent motherfuckers. You won't be able to change that anymore. It is not important, how many of you are peaceful, important is what is left over: Destroyed shops, destroyed cars, grafittis all over the town, a lot of injured police men, injured journalist, injured sanitarys, injured demonstrants, garbage all over the town, etc. etc. That's it for you, idiots. Go home to wherever you came from and leave us alone. There is no sympathy to expect from anybody, except of your sick friends and supporters. And - you are a minority. You are not welcome - not here and not in any other city. Go to some desert, all of you, and build yourself a nice anarchistic commune where you can smash your own heads and discuss about your great ideas. That will do much better for the world. Just don't forget to have internet access there, so that 'Iamahumanchinesebeing' can send his links to forums... |
| name: | bernie |
| e-mail: | -@- |
| Comments: | INPEG is very courageous. I only hope that INPEG will pay
all demage in same courage. |
| name: | XXX |
| e-mail: | xxxinpeg@stupid.cz |
| Comments: | Fucking INPEG ..... They are so stupid. Oh no. Fantomas
coming soon!! |
| name: | George |
| e-mail: | nobody@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | What the hell are you doing here??? After Yesterday night
and the "great" appearance of the Italians -invade-demolish- run away- and Your interview in PRIMA TV Your initiative has lost any sympathy of everybody, who has a clear mind. |
| name: | indortes |
| e-mail: | ard@arrakis.es |
| Comments: | To all the Czech people that writes here against INPEG and
antiglobalization people: don´t repeat again and again that communism was terrible in your contry and Eastern europe...ALL OF US KNOW THIS and understand your suffering under blood dictatorship. I write you from Barcelona (Catalonia - Spain) and we suffered an extreme right wing dictatorship of 40 years as yourselves a communist one. All dictatorships are terrible for people, and people who wants another world has NEVER to repeat certain mistakes doing even worst than the system they try to change. As an anarchist, I have ever rejected soviet communism as nonsense solution. The coordination of very different groups, descentralized and autonomous, against corporations globalization (because money is the only IMF and WB make global) is intending to avoid negative and undesirable experiences as soviet communism. I was happy when I saw your velvet revolution in 1989. But when I hear that some of you only talk against the violenece of some foolish young people in the movement (we here saw, even through manipulated mass media, some people with violent attitude besides many peaceful demonstarations)and don´t even consider the unfair and non-sustainable destructive capitalist policies around thw world, you make me think that the egotistic and indidualistic attitudes ('it is not my problem, 'the world is like this and ever will be', 'nothing can be done' , 'be quiet and at home, don't disturb our peaceful life in Prague', 'be happy witht your misery salary and with your temporary job', 'the third world countries deserve their fate'...) have slowly penetrated into the Czech soceity during these 10 years; I hped sincerely that your suffering from a dictatorship during 40 years would make you more sensible to unfairness and explotation. |
| name: | reech |
| e-mail: | gettalifeyoukleptocapitalistwannabes@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | what about the violence used by the police??you all believe
everything you see on tv??? |
| name: | RHN |
| e-mail: | rhn@volny.cz |
| Comments: | If the INPEG had a target to be presented in the media,
than this target was reached. But if you think that your protest was peacufull, that I don't want to see how your VIOLENT protest looks like. If you want to do such bullshits go home and destroy your own cities. I believe that if you try such protests for example in Germany that the police destroy the protest with more power than the Czech police did. It was the only fault of the police action. The should use more power to cancel your demonstartion and hold peace in the city. Hi, Richard |
| name: | xxx |
| e-mail: | xxx@xxx.xx |
| Comments: | FUCK OFF INPEG |
| name: | xxx |
| e-mail: | xxx@xxx.xx |
| Comments: | FUC OFF INPEG |
| name: | nobody |
| e-mail: | nobody@mejl.cz |
| Comments: | Well I'm surprised because of tens of nice girls from
Italy, Spain, Greece on Prague's streets. I sure they all know fuckin' nothing about Marx, Che Guevara, comunism etc. which they've on their clothes. If you want to demonstrate, enjoy it. I agree with you in many points. But if you are looking for violence and terror, go raither home. I'll defend myself and my town and won't care if you're girl or boy ... I'll just kick your ass ;) Think that our police showed you, who you really are ... maybe professional street warriors but also 'children', loosers and stupid teenagers ... makes me fuckin' choke... |
| name: | Mirek |
| e-mail: | mk5@atlas.cz |
| Comments: | Try Czech version of discussion - it is much better |
| name: | Bezcek |
| e-mail: | Bezcek@atlas.cz |
| Comments: | Hi you ####### ########## ######## ###### ####### #######
######### ######## ######### ######### ########! Huh what means Shut sown IMF? ####### you all. |
| name: | Mirek |
| e-mail: | mk5@atlas.cz |
| Comments: | THANK YOU, INPEG. ALTHOUG WE LIVED 50 YEARS IN THE
COMMUNISM MY CHILDREN DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM. YOU HELPED ME VERY MUCH TO EXPLAIN THAT COMMUNISM = VIOLENCE. MY CHILDREN WILL NEVER SUPPORT THIS TYPE OF MOVEMENT AFTER YESTERDAY TV SPOTS. |
| name: | Mirek |
| e-mail: | mk5@atlas.cz |
| Comments: | To anika: PLS do not lie. Your people showed you want only
one: VIOLENCE. |
| name: | Lots of Info about Asteroids... U could try Yahoo!, NASA, etc... the terrible fact is: a lot discoveries are done by NGOs... |
| e-mail: | iamhumanbeingchinese@hongkong.com |
| Comments: | http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2299/neo2.html |
| name: | Technologies |
| e-mail: | iamhumanbeingchinese@hongkong.com |
| Comments: | http://www.mkaku.org/visions.htm |
| name: | Take So Long |
| e-mail: | iamhumanbeingchinese@hongkong.com |
| Comments: | http://sdgateway.net/introsd/timeline.htm |
| name: | About Hunger |
| e-mail: | iamhumanbeingchinese@hongkong.com |
| Comments: | http://www.thehungersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/HungerSite |
| name: | Cigarette & Children |
| e-mail: | iamhumanbeingchinese@hongkong.com |
| Comments: | http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0009/12/tod.06.html |
| name: | GM food |
| e-mail: | iamhumanbeingchinese@hongkong.com |
| Comments: | http://www.ucsusa.org/agriculture/gen.risks.html |
| name: | Subliminal Messages |
| e-mail: | iamhumanbeingchinese@hongkong.com |
| Comments: | http://www.deadlypersuasion.com/ |
| name: | Toxic Chemical |
| e-mail: | iamhumanbeingchinese@hongkong.com |
| Comments: | http://www.worldwildlife.org/toxics/globaltoxics/toxchemwild
.htm |
| name: | A Sick World No.1 |
| e-mail: | iamhuman@hongkong.com |
| Comments: | http://www.ems.org/banks/zz.foe.00.09.25.html |
| name: | Karban |
| e-mail: | l.karban@volny.cz |
| Comments: | Fuck off INPEG. It is shit organization. What is new in
Prag? Demolition 7 medicar. 51 injured polish men. 18 ijured demontrations. Internacional scandal = injured japanise person and russians departmen. Flambe buttel. Gas. It is O.K. No. P.S. Please not demolition firts help medicar. Thanx. |
| name: | Jiri |
| e-mail: | holiday@volny.cz |
| Comments: | You lost everything in Czech republic! You fucking red
asholes. All people are on the police's side today! |
| name: | Jirka |
| e-mail: | glee@seznam.cz |
| Comments: | It appears that INPEG and the many of the rest of the
demonstrators have one idea in mind-- VIOLENCE. I suggest you change your name to VINPEG. Violent Initiative Against Economic Globalization. It was interesting to watch your spokeswoman on Televize Prima tonight when confronted with the question why the 6000 demonstrators including INPEG couldn't demonstrate peacefully like the more than hundreds of thousands of protestors took to the streets of Prague in 1989. Nobody threw cobblestones during the Velvet Revolution despite serious provocation by the police. She had no answer except that it was a different situation. It certainly was! Today the violence was entirely provoked by the protestors! There was never any intention that the demonstration was going to be peaceful. |
| name: | Jiri |
| e-mail: | holiday@volny.cz |
| Comments: | Stay in your pigsty Annika! |
| name: | Jiri |
| e-mail: | holiday@volny.cz |
| Comments: | Inpegs, I fuck you so much! |
| name: | annika |
| e-mail: | skategirl_08@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | Hi everybody! I just want to say; dont completely trust the
media. The demonstration split into three; my part (pink) had a totally non-violent action, a sitting blockade of the big entrace to the IMFmeting centre. There was dancing, singing and calm demonstrations. What is wrong with the IMF? It is a totally undemocratic organisation (one dollar=one vote, no matter what number of population a country might have) which is exploiting the third world by forcing the third world countries to apply to a neo-liberalistic politics, opening up the borders for transnational companies etc... I really hope people in the world understand that WE ARE FIGHTING FOR A BETTER WORLD ORDER! Cheers, Annika |
| name: | David |
| e-mail: | dborges@login.cz |
| Comments: | The people from INPEG had a great chance to show to the whole world their ideas. It is clear now that they have not got any. As a citizen of Prague, I would like to thank the Czech police forces. Thanks to their professionalism I feel that after 50 years we are back in Europe. |
| name: | tessathan |
| e-mail: | tessathan@hotmail.com |
| Comments: |
some must suffer for the good of others, prague citizens, you must not get upset at citizens of earth who stand up for freedom from big business and globalization. they protest for everyone, even you. |
| name: | Amy |
| e-mail: | amys75@juno.com |
| Comments: | And another thing, nowhere on your website is there any
substantial evidence of any wrongdoing by the IMF or WB. Why are you protesting anyway? |