lol wtf?

Re: The 18 threshold and Zero Tolerance

And just to make you even madder, there is now a new twist to the story.

Re: The 18 threshold and Zero Tolerance

Guughh... don't get me started on that. The Republican Party has been salivating at the Benghazi scandal, trying to call any incident that happens in the country a conspiracy of Obama trying to cover up Benghazi, no matter how big a leap in logic you have to make. We don't need this to be part of that "conspiracy" goulash.

Regarding the Kaitlyn Hunt case, I found a lot of comments where people want to burn her at the stake, calling her a rapist using the gay community as a shield card against accusations. Now I know it's the internet and all, but, taking these comments at face value, it proves my point that there are people out there who can't tell the difference between consensual sex, statutory rape, and horrible, violent rape. It implies that people really are that stupid, and why would you want to project yourself that way to the public if it weren't true?

It also goes back to my witch-hunting analogy, and what Arachnophile pointed out, that we seem to possess a sort of mob mentality at our core, ready to jump at the next big, illusive face of evil, no matter how benign it actually is. You can call for someone's blood and feel like a badass mother fucker without having actually done anything. If it was collateral damage, who cares?! People's heads have to roll!

I don't know if it's just a need to feel empowered during a time where our control over the world around us is rapidly diminishing for most of us, or people just want to be part of some moral crusade against evil wherever they think they see it. Whatever the case may be, the outcome is that we ruin people's lives by slapping them with felonies and throwing them on a registry that has become bloated with non-violent offenders who were in a "Romeo and Juliet" relationship, or even may have been some non-sexual offense, and we knowingly lump them in with serious offenders like Ariel Castro.

Trying to change the laws would be like moving Heaven and Earth. We have a do or die religious mentality in this country; if you're not for it, you're against it; you're one of us, or you're the enemy. The reigning authority is hysteria. There is no middle ground, discretion or consideration allowed. It's discouraged and rallied against, because you just might pick an opposing or unfavorable viewpoint. Pushing to have these charges on Kaitlyn Hunt dropped can be twisted and malformed into "He supports child rape!".

That's why I brought up Zero Tolerance in the subject name. It is, in effect, institutionalizing the hysteria, and the mentality behind Zero Tolerance is in full play in this Kaitlyn Hunt case. You could investigate the case, question the girls and their parents, along with school administration that knew them and figure out a verdict from there, or you could just burn them at the stake and let God sort 'em out. Zero Tolerance pretty much forces you to go too far, because if it turned out to be a legit case, you will be held responsible for not going too far enough.

The system needs to be changed and laws need to be reworked, because as it stands, we spear schools of minnows in an ocean of sharks, and we don't really pay attention to the consequences of these legal actions, and the innocent lives that they ruin. It's easy to outsource the moral quandaries to a higher power, or alienate and dehumanize the opposition and pay no attention to whoever gets caught in the crossfire, but if you can't turn your brain off in these moments, you'd take into account the ramifications your judgements will have on other people. It may not affect your life in the slightest, but to seriously consider it regardless makes you moral, and makes you human.

Re: The 18 threshold and Zero Tolerance

Yes, I often felt that much of American politics is just a huge distraction to keep us occupied with nonsense while the robber barrons steal all they can. It's like the street magician waving one hand in the air while using the other hand to pick our pockets. The worst part is how damn easy it is to do. We fall for it every time.

One thing that makes me sad is to think of how that younger girl must hate her parents. How could someone do this to their poor child?

title or author

There was a story I read on here awhile ago. I can't remember the name of it or the author but I remember the main story line. If someone knows the name of either the story or author please let me know. The story is about a programmer who meets this women who has two daughters. He stats teaching one of them how to program and of course there is sex involved at some point. I also remember a part about a school fire the gifted in there. Again if anyone knows the author or title please let me know. Really want to read it again!!

Re: The 18 threshold and Zero Tolerance

Definitely a case of "piling on." For all its touted benefits, this is what democracy/republicanism (the form, not the retrograde American political party) brings when it degenerates into pandering for votes from a religious populace growing poorer overall and socially fragmented and disaffected.

It's almost as if citizen elites sat down and plotted to distract the electorate from the real issues affecting them by coming up with a "problem" and blowing it up out of proportion to its actual effect.

Let's destroy someone so we feel we've regained "control" over our lives. It must be something that will pull us all together (just like war). Let's destroy ... pedophiles! Who could (or dare) object to that?

It's become so bad in the U.S. that The Economist, no one's idea of a progressive journal, ran a cover story a couple of years ago on America's unjust sex laws.

I signed a petition to have that girl's case thrown out of court. Shame on the prosecutor and shame on the 15-year old's parents. It's a blatant case of homophobia and the failure to accept one's children for what they are. It's disgusting.

Arachnophile

Re: New Story

Chris

Interesting experiment. I'm looking forward to reading it.

While I agree that descriptive text is important, and that our ability to see, interpret and then describe is another attribute of our humanity, it's not the only way to convey the erotic.

It's definitely challenging to go with dialog only. I like that you're taking a chance. "Push the envelope" I say!

Arachnophile

Any non-dialogue stuff is in italics and parentheses (and therein lies the possibility of screwing up).

I did see something online that I thought I could add. A 14-year-old girl who could shred Eddie Van Halen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rV6SmY04WdE

Re: New Story

Glad to read a contradictory opinion! I will stand behind my statement, without much further defense other than to say: Imagine if all that was conveyed in your descriptive text was in fact conveyed in dialog between the two characters. If it could be done, it would be more emotionally gripping than the descriptive text, I believe.

I'm not saying that most great writers have no descriptive text, but rather, that the really important stuff is conveyed through dialog (and, I would add Koan-like, through the things that are left _unsaid_).

I should be posting my story in the next few days, I am most interested in whether you think I achieve the goal of "making it erotic and absorbing to the reader." I hope I've managed at least a little bit of something enjoyable.

Re: New Story

Couldn't disagree more, Chris. Descriptive prose provides ambiance and atmosphere in a story - the soft spring breeze rustled sheer curtains and stirred her fine, blond curls. The scent of jasmine and a flowering lemon tree added to his intoxication of her sweet beauty, her yearning blue eyes, and the slightly elevated pulse showing in her slender neck. His fingertips brushed her neck and trailed down, pausing at the lace brocade of her cotton nightshirt. His eyes questioned her, may I?

Try putting that in dialogue. It can be done but the result will not only be awkward, the conversation will be stilted.

I agree that writing a conversation only piece is a real challenge, but the challenge isn't writing the piece, it's making it erotic and absorbing to the reader.

Re: New Story

Sounds interesting, Naked City, I'll take a look. I have posted one story here that is a script for a video, although unlike a radio show transcript it does contain stage directions.

And, I'm now putting the finishing touches on a new story that contains nothing but dialog. Not a single word of descriptive text, not even a "he said" or "she said." It's challenging but I think it works. I would recommend to all writers that they attempt such a thing; I believe that most (not all, but most) of the best writers convey all the important information through dialog--not through descriptive text or unspoken thoughts. Dialog is, after all, what makes us uniquely human. Not sure if this applies to the story you are writing but sounds like it might.

Re: The 18 threshold and Zero Tolerance

You're correct, but only to a point. First, someone had to report the "crime." That apparently was the parents. Second, the parents (or other people) can put a lot of pressure on the prosecutor to bring charges. The prosecutor may not want to bring charges or may be ambivalent about it, but may be compelled to do so. I'm not saying that's what happened here, but it definitely does happen.

Re: The 18 threshold and Zero Tolerance

I think you are confused about how criminal law works. You have made a couple of references to the parents being responsible for pressing felony charges. That's not how the law works.

The parents can report a crime, and law enforcement investigates. But felony sexual offense charges are filed by a district attorney following indictment by a grand jury.

The parents have absolutely no say regarding felony sexual offense charges. It is entirely the purvue of the judicial system. The parents have nothing whatsoever to do with the decisions made in a criminal case.

Re: The 18 threshold and Zero Tolerance

To follow up on this story, the parents of the minor went to the school administration and got the adult girlfriend expelled. They also went to the police and pressed charges on her for lewd and lascivious battery of a child 12 to 16 years of age the instant she turned 18, despite both teens' objections to the contrary.

Right now, she's been offered a plea deal. Instead of prison time, two years of house arrest, one year of probation, and being put on the sex offender registry.

I don't know what the parents reasoning for this was, but there is no reason to press charges to this extreme. It basically ruins this girl's life simply for becoming an adult and because the parents wanted to egregiously hyperbolize the relationship to fictional extremes because... I don't know, they don't like the idea of their daughter being a lesbian? Either way, it's just a complete mess of a case, because as it currently stands, unless the judge throws the case out, this girl is going to be screwed over for the rest of her life.

New Story

I have at long last a new story broken into three "hours". It's a radio show, and the story takes the form of a transcript. It's my first attempt at this type of story and would like some feedback once it's posted. I just hope I typed it in all correctly.

Re: The 18 threshold and Zero Tolerance

Perhaps the way I should have worded it is that the bigots here in the US are far too loud and have far too much influence over public policy. You are right, they are not numerous compared to people who are decent, but they have more power in the political realm than their numbers should allow them. And they are very vocal even when they are not given power.

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Re: contact

It's conceivable that he just wanted to chat with other readers of the fictional stories, without any illegal stuff going on.

It's also well within the realm of possibility that he was LEA and was fishing for stupid people who would end up sending him something illegal, or discussing illegal activities that they'd done.

Of course, if that was a telephone number he included, that would be breaking one of the rules right there (I know nothing about international telephone numbers.)

Re: contact

I think that person broke EVERY rule in the book!

Unfortunately, it's posts like that which give sites like this a bad name, and gives ammunition to the anti & witchhunt brigades! :(

Re: The 18 threshold and Zero Tolerance

Far too many Americans are bigots? That's a hoot. That mostly lies with the very religious. Most people that I know could give a shit less about gay relationships.

If you're from the USA, then I can halfway respect your opinion. If you're not, then you don't know shit.

Re: The 18 threshold and Zero Tolerance

Actually, I'm of the opposite conviction. Where I am from the 18yo girl and 15 yo girl would probably not get look at twice but the 18yo boy and a 15yo girl would be oh so very very bad. It happens and there probably wouldn't be that much reaction unless the parent of the girl wished to press charges (the age of consent is 16 here not 18 as in where the story originates) but the "tsk, tsk"ing and shaking of heads would be very loud.

Over there I don't doubt the main reaction is because it's a girl-girl relationship. Hell, anybody remember the football team that tag teamed the drunk and passed out girl and posted comments and video of it? How long did that take before anybody bothered to take notice? And now it's a *SHOCK* 2 girls. Hypocrisy and fear of anything sexual seems to be the order of the day unfortunately.

Re: The 18 threshold and Zero Tolerance

And I still wonder if anything would ever have been said or done about it if it had been a heterosexual relationship.

I think people would have been fine with it if it had been and 18yo boy and 15yo girl. I think the only reason people see a problem is because it is a lesbian relationship, and far too many Americans are bigots.

The 18 threshold and Zero Tolerance

Uhhh... ok. So I tried to post just now, but it didn't go through. Is it because I embedded a Youtube video? Fine, I won't do that.

It's barely the morning and I've already seen several articles and videos that piss me off to no end, but this one takes the cake.

Basically a girl that turned 18 is being charged with felony sexual offenses by her girlfriend's parents because the girlfriend is 15 years old. That's really all that needs to be said. Because of bullshit policies like Zero Tolerance, we enforce brainless laws like this because people don't seem to be able to differentiate consensual relationships like this and the catastrophe that happened in Cleveland. It's like being unable to tell the difference between flowers and weeds, so you just torch your whole lawn with napalm along with the surrounding ecosystem.

Sorry, I don't normally get worked up like this.

Re: contact

I'm not sure if Arin will consider your post to be breaking any rules or not, but you should be aware of the following rules: http://www.asstr.org/~LS/rules.html

4. Do not post statements admitting to, or soliciting or encouraging other people to engage in illegal acts.
6. Do not post or ask for sexually explicit or lewd content, or disclose any information where it may be viewed or downloaded.
7. Loliwood Studios does not allow 'picture trading' of any kind.
8. Do not write about your fantasies in a way that may be misunderstood for real life events.
9. Do not use this forum as your personal dating board.

Re: requests

Most people don't take requests, as they are too busy with their own stories. Then there are the hard feelings on behalf of the writer, who feels that the requester is trying to micromanage the work. On the other side, the requester may end up with a story that doesn't follow what he had in mind, and be disappointed.

The usual advice is, "Write it yourself." First of all, the scenario you imagine may not be that exciting or different to another writer, and second of all, you are the only one who knows exactly how things should play out.

If you have fears of being a poor writer, all of the authors here started with one story. That first story may not have been very good, but they practiced and learned how to make it better. If you lack basic grammar and spelling knowledge, you can look online for various instructional courses.

requests

I was wondering if anyone took story requests?

Re: TV ads...

The scene:

http://jezebel.com/5619646/sally-drapers-sexual-revolution

Re: TV ads...

You think the girls in TV ads are hot I was just amazed watching this week's episode of Mad Men. The character Sally was in several scenes. In the first she was in a top that showed she had finally grown little breasts and had on a mini skirt. In the other, she was in a pink nightie. If they ever remake Lolita, they need to cast her. Also, Grace in Nurse Jackie is another little fox as are the two sisters in Modern Family. What do you guys think? Any others?

The Persistence of the ‘Lolita Syndrome’

The Persistence of the ‘Lolita Syndrome’

By ANDY MARTIN

OPINIONATOR
Exclusive Online Commentary from The New York Times

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/19/savile-beauvoir-and-the-charms-of-the-nymph/?ref=afternoonupdate&nl=afternoonupdate&emc=edit_au_20130520

Re: Clusterfuck

@Arin,
Sorry, had not read that yet.

Resident Editor

There is a vacancy for a senior editor position at Loliwood Studios. Successful applicant will be in charge of editing and correcting rejected stories. Sound knowledge of punctuation and grammar is essential. The workload is light to moderate, approximately one story a day. All work is on voluntary basis but due credits will be given in story disclaimers. If you are interested please contact me for more info.

The next round is on me

In celebration of me having a story at number one on the weekly top 100 for the first time ever!

Older Characters

It's nice to have a place to come where I can find children enjoying their sexuality. I also appreciate the level of writing that sets this site apart from others. With that said, I do believe that Adult/Adult sex can be handled and handled well within the already set parameters of this site. I think as long as a child expresses or explores some aspect of his or her sexuality in each story posting that the bare minimum has been met. BUT, I don't come to this site for bare minimums (except when it comes to age of sexual partners). I truly appreciate that all postings do show the best each author has to offer, and collectively, this makes for a fantastic place to get my pedophilic release. As long as the main drive in each focus is the enjoyment of child sexuality, I think it should be allowed, provided the other parameters (grammer, spelling, etc.) are met.

Re: What does everyone think of older characters having sex?

I like such stories. For example I remember a fictional story where a woman finds illegal pornography on his husband's computer and at first she is appalled, but then she begins to look through the folders and becomes excited instead and masturbates. Then she asks her female friend for advice on what to do. The friend would like to see what it is all about and they both become so aroused that they start to masturbate and then have sex together.

The story is called Awakenings by author Will Wanton 69.

What does everyone think of older characters having sex?

Now obviously, I know the site rules that the story must contain at least one character under 18, and I know you readers (like myself) come here for the stories involving those young characters.

However, if a couple of adults happen to get their groove on within the story, does that completely disgust you, or is it enjoyable to read as long as the child character gets their turn later? What if the child grows up, and the story continues with the adult and now grown character marrying, and having sex?

Do you prefer that the child character(s) participate in EVERY sex scene with the two adults, or is it okay for them to just watch, or not even be present?

I personally like stories with some romance in them, and romance between two adult characters (maybe one with kids, who doesn't mind sharing) can be more interesting than romance between an adult and child.

First of all, it's hard for an adult and child to be together romantically, as society would frown on it (other than times when the couple is alone and are usually having sex.) Second of all, the children are growing, and there may come a point when they wish to date someone their own age, but look back on the relationship with the adult fondly (or not so fondly, depending on the story.) Third, the adult may ONLY care about a young teen/preteen, and lose interest once the child grows up.

If there is another adult in the picture, they can share the secret of an adult/minor relationship, and both adults can be parents to the child (albeit with sexual privileges) instead of being boyfriend/girlfriend.

A couple of stories that handled this well (IMO) are Amanda and Her Girls by Joe S. Theragman - http://www.asstr.org/files/Authors/Joe_S._Theragman/www/ - and I Married Three Girls by Uncle Sky - http://www.asstr.org/files/Authors/uncle_sky/www/

Many of my stories depict the main (male) character having a relationship with the mother of the child character(s.) Soemtimes such as in "Surviving the End", it's a free-for-all with the kids joining in during the sex sessions, while other stories (such as "The Accidental Brat") have the young girl peeping in on the adults (for the first chapter, anyway.) I'm working on some chapters of my Loli-Ville stories, and there will be several 'adults only' (no kids present) encounters in the various stories, although the main characters will also have sex with underage participants.

Re: Newest story

Hey Corn, nice to see you around and still writing. Can't wait to read the new one!!!

Newest story

Hi. It's been awhile since posting my last story (part two of my last story - Laurie Restarts Her Modeling Career - is still being finished... but I do have about 50 pages finished). Anyway, I was tied up on other, non-writing projects and this new story popped into my head while watching something... so here it is. I have about 10 - 15 pages done on part two, but plenty of time to insert a few new suggestions. Let your imaginations soar! Thanks, Corn53

Re: Ashley Smith

I must admit that even though I usually prefer girls with smaller tits she is extremely good looking. Nice video :-)

Re: Ashley Smith

Ashley's got tits. Not that there's anything wrong with that, just sayin' :)

On the other hand... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NbiBEwAlkY

Ashley Smith

Seriously guys, you have bad taste in girls so here's a palate cleanser after all those tacky TV ads.

Re: Kids' shampoo commercial

"easy on tangles and loved by kids".... and we love this as well :-D

Re: Clusterfuck

Hmmm... kinda bad for the authors that they lost that many feedback. But loosing the stories would have been much worse :-)

Re: TV ads...

That's it, thanks.

Re: TV ads...

Otakuman, is this the Subaru ad you seek?

http://youtu.be/sFDuHyKbORw

There's a girl with a soccer uniform at 0:11.

Kids' shampoo commercial

http://youtu.be/eJ4A7xcEyec

Nostalgia. My reaction to this shampoo ad when it aired originally on TV was the beginning of the realization that I was 'different.'

Re: Clusterfuck

I was changing something in the database that went from bad to worse but the backup saved the day. New stories are now online. The only thing lost are around 150 reviews.

Re: Clusterfuck

What's the famous saying? "Shit happens" and "Murphy always finds a way" or something like that?

But seriously, Bad things do sometimes happen. Don't beat yourself up. I've had my share of "Dooooh" moments. What happened?

Tatum O'Neal in The Bad News Bears

Oh... My...

Quite a charming young girl, First introduced to us wearing an almost see-through peasant blouse, then she's wearing bare shoulders with an ALMOST off the chest tube top, and then she's at ballet class. Her leotard was lovely. (wink wink nudge nudge)

Re: TV ads...

Well Done, sir!

Re: Clusterfuck

I didn't even think that was possible. What did you do?

Clusterfuck

So it happened that I trashed Loliwood database today. Hopefully, I've got it restored now from the backup but I'm still testing it. Also, two days of reviews are lost and the update is running very late. Fingers crossed it's going to work.

Re: TV ads...

Well in my wild attempts at tracking this down(Failed miserably), I came up with this cute and damn funny ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow0a06gsiF4&NR=1&feature=endscreen

Re: TV ads...

For some reason, the version you posted only had a couple of still images, that didn't show the girl at all. I found another version of it that is the actual commercial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwFNFR8k0rI

On a related note, I saw something on a display TV yesterday, it was an ad for some new SUV. I think it may have been a Japanese import like Subaru or something, but I could be mistaken.

A family was in the SUV leaving their house, I believe, and the father turned around to the kids in the back seat. The girl was wearing loose soccer shorts, and had LOOONG legs. Anyone know what commercial that was?

Re: TV ads...

One of my other favourite fruity girls:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqdD36EsfZE

Re: TV ads...

That girl drives me wild every time I see those lips.

TV ads...

One of my favourite girls in ANY advert....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DhNJPOSSmc

Imagination goes wild when this comes on tv! ;)

Kids first reactions to food

http://youtu.be/7PVVT9V2CM0?t=1m18s

Girl at 1:18 is stunningly adorable.

update postponed

I'm kind of busy with stuff so I'll have to skip an update. The next one will happen on May 16th. I hope you can wait until then ^_^

Re: May 13 stories

I had that happen a month or two ago. I simply cleared my cache and restarted Firefox, and I was able to access the stories without any issues.

Re: May 13 stories

Yeah, I had the issue with not loading the stories correctly a couple of days ago. I tried refreshing the page with F5 a couple of times with no luck and then changed to ctrl+F5 for forced refresh (I'm using firefox, might not be the same on other browsers). Didn't work at first but after doing it 10-15 times I suddenly got the stories up and running. Had to do that for each story btw so wasn't a problem that just disappeared. Not sure if the force refresh had any effect of if continually trying to refresh the normal way would have given the same result.

Re: May 13 stories

I just checked every story on the 13th, and they all worked.

I haven't seen any mention of problems at the ASSTR Author's group on Yahoo, or the alt.sex.stories.d discussion newsgroup, but it's possible that a server was temporarily down for ASSTR. I don't really know how they work, but let's say Loliwood titles get uploaded, and some of them are on ASSTR server #2. The main ASSTR site is on server #1, and other stories might be on server #3 or #4. Server #2 gets overloaded and goes down for a while, thus the stories give the standard ASSTR 'file not found' page.

Another possibility is that the access to ASSTR is random, so you might read a story on server #1, and then refresh the page and you'd be on server #2.

Sometimes when you get the 'file not found' page, you can try refreshing the page to see if it shows up. I do recall that they were having quite a bit of server problems a couple of months ago.

Re: pedo Sean

Hey they have been some erotic pedo fun filled times reading - keep it up

May 13 stories

Many of the stories in the May 13 story update line to a page saying

Sorry, there is no page at ASSTR matching your request. A haiku while you contemplate where to go now:
The Web site you seek
cannot be located
but endless more exist"

pedo Sean

For those who enjoyed my pedo ring series, you'll see that Sean is back 'in action' in the next day or two. Of course that means some little girl is not safe.

Re: age of consent

Maybe this involves that I know the goings on in this Seville case, or read a different article about this lawyer. The only thing it says about her argument in the article implies that the accusations in this case have been getting out of hand and that it's unfair to equate heavy petting an underaged girl - consensual or not - with violent rape/murder. After that, it just immediately cuts to people's reactions and outrage.

Re: age of consent

"But that's not where we should be holding this debate. It does nothing to support your stance and if anything hamstrings it."
Yep, I suppose. But all I'm saying is, if a respectable lawyer can spout those arguments, then I think that gives the likes of us here a right to. The image folk have of this site's users is probably seedy and shadowy, 'mere perverts', without much credibility. But, hey, a lot of us in here have been saying the type of stuff for years that this 'great lawyer' is now coming out with (and no doubt getting paid a packet to publish it). So what does that make us? Wise 'before' the event?
I take your point, though. It might be much more effective to just write a serious fiction story about it (like Lolita), and let that do the talking.

Re: age of consent

Man, look at those comments.

I don't agree that this case should be a catalyst for the age of consent argument. I get the reasoning behind it, that kissing/heavy petting an underaged girl - consensual or not - is nowhere in the same ballpark as rape/violent murder, and it's not fair to the defendant accused of statutory rape/fondling/whatever to be equated with the darker and much more heinous realm; we don't associate guys who get in a drunken brawl at a bar with Jack the Ripper or Al-Qaeda.

But that's not where we should be holding this debate. It does nothing to support your stance and if anything hamstrings it.

age of consent

Well, well, a lawyer with common sense! (this relates to the British music school sex scandals):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2321473/Legal-chambers-shock-human-rights-lawyer-calls-age-consent-lowered-13-end-persecution-old-men-wake-Savile-scandal.html

Re: Arin

I don't find it that difficult to copy/paste what I want from a page into an office document. But that is me.

Re: cameltoes

Too hairy for me! :P

Re: Arin

Or proboards.com

Re: Arin

I'm saying that from the perspective of the common reader. I get those messages myself from time to time.

Re: Arin

It's tedious? I'd like to see you working on the site every day year after year and then tell me how tedious it is.

Re: Arin

It doesn't work that way. When you save the page, you're either saving the HTML page, or in your "solution", saving EVERYTHING on that page as text in this massive jumble.

And depending on the format of the text for the fancier stories, you wouldn't be able to do a quick Shift select and copy/paste the text over to notepad, and no one wants to do that several dozen times depending on how many stories they are going to download. It's tedious and there is a better alternative.

Re: loli cameltoe on TV

That was one of the main reasons I ever watched Addams Family Values. I often wish I had t on DVD.

Re: Arin

Why can't you just save stories as txt files? Go to file > save page as > then on the drop down menu where it says save as type choose txt file. It takes me two seconds to do that, no copy/pasting anything.

Re: Committee to approve new residents for a special town (Loli-Ville)

It's hard for me to touch myself unless my smut has a complex and elaborate political structure, and a huge harem of throwaway two-dimentional charecters.

All i need is eye and hair color, an age, and to be told how tight it is about 3-4 times. I like to be reminded 'she's totally getting into it' in flippant kindof way (if you can find time). If you can't, just kiss a bunch, since that proves you're not just trying to get in her little panties. Thats advanced stuff tho. But since girls are usually wet before foreplay even starts, it doesnt matter.

Thats all you need to do guys.

And remember. Your first two or three paragraphs need to be devoted to a condescending lecture about how misguided society is. I mean, without it we'd all think the author is a total immoral perv, am i right?

Re: cameltoes

Oh, man, check out these dirty cameltoes! :-O

http://carpetblog.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/11/cameltoereal.jpg

Re: loli cameltoe on TV

It's a bit hard to see. I always liked the swimming scene in Addams Family Values (a nice shot is in the trailer.)

Re: loli cameltoe on TV

Just google "Quaker Oats commercial under the lake." That's how I got the time the cameltoe appears...

Re: Arin

I second that! It would be great having a plain text format that could be easily downloaded. Calibre is my besteste friend...well...in companionship with my ereader :-D

Arin

Backlog? Tsk Tsk! ;)

I know you're busy busy Arin, but any news on making stories downloadable?

I ask because I don't really get time to sit online and read other people's work, but ifI could download them I'd be able to do so on my tablet.
Atm I copy & paste to a text file, but it's hard bloody work lol

Re: loli cameltoe on TV

nice find does anyone have a youtube link to a vid of the comercial

Re: Stories submissions not published

That's pretty much spot on. And without going into details, there are also some other issues with this individual which I think would present a security risk for the site if he was given a space for his stories.

By the way, there is a small backlog of stories so if you don't see your story posted in the next update, it will be posted in the following one.

Re: Stories submissions not published

Gothman, with all due respect, judging only from your several posts to this discussion forum I suspect that the reason you are not getting your submitted stories published is because of the way that you write.

You use all lower case letters, you do not insert spaces following puctuation (which makes it very difficult for the reader to determine where a sentence ends and the next begins), and you do not use paragraphs.

With that sort of structure (or lack of structure), your writing is very difficult if not impossible to read. I would wager a guess that when Arin sees your submissions, and realizes how much editing and formatting would be required to make a readable story out of your submissions he simply says "Screw this!" (or something similar).

I mean no disrespect to you, but you seem to be seeking a reason for not being published. What I have noted is more than enough reason for submissions to be set aside, if in fact your stories are similarly written to your discussion forum posts.

If in fact you write your stories using good punctuation, capitalization and structure, .... why not also use that in this discussion forum?

loli cameltoe on TV

A lovely loli camel-toe shot in Quaker Oat's commercial "Under the Lake" at 0:17...

Re: Ooops!! lol

i never use violence in my stories since i'm against abuse and inflicting sexual intercourse on children or anyone against their will and consent.and yes i do follow all the rules and guidelines as per spacing my stories and informing the readers that it is purely a fantasy and all in my imagination.to me lolliwood is a great outlet to release these urges to act out my desires towards innocent children.granted i'm a pedophile but it's not an excuse to go out and disturb the peace and santity of any child.thanks again...

Re: Survey of pedophiles

Sterling: "I suppose there's no reason to vote in elections either if you want an immediate personal pay-off."
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Response: Seriously, you are trying to make an analogy between voting, and responding to a pedophiles survey? Really?
Oh come on, who are you and what are you really up to, here?
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Sterling: "If you assume everyone is out to get you and refuse to even give anonymous opinions, existing prejudices will exist forever.
The influential researcher Gene Abel studying a population of child porn offenders wrote that many of them said they hadn't had a contact offense with a child, but on interview he concluded they were all mistaken and they all had.
A great many people think that, and also believe anyone attracted to children abuses them. If that doesn't apply to you, being counted in an anonymous survey could help."
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Response: Oh, sure. "Anonymous" because some unseen individuals or group says it's "anonymous". Yeah, right.
And "We don't record your IP address; trust us." Yeah, right.
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Sterling: "Of course, my only intent was to give people an opportunity to fill out the survey if they wanted to. Many won't, of course, but I don't think it's fair to call those who do stupid."

Response: Well, we can agree to disagree. But perhaps "stupid" is too harsh. I think a person would be remarkably boneheaded and gullible to do so. There, better?

:-)

Re: Ooops!! lol

Gothman, have you read the story submission rules and guidelines? The big rule is no violence.

http://www.asstr.org/~LS/guidelines.html

I don't know anything about your stories and you'd have to talk to Arin about the reason they haven't shown up.

What about paragraph breaks? Is your story broken up into reasonable paragraphs, and does it have a new paragraph for each speaker?

Re: Survey of pedophiles

Tbh, I was also convinced it may not have been legal which was why I asked someone who would know for sure.
Like you said, the UK has to be the worst place in the world to be paedosexual

Re: Ooops!! lol

i always spellcheck my stories before posting,as i've indicated earlier my comments to other writers great stories and as you can clearly see here on this forum all comments are being posted.thanks for your advice and i look forward to reading your current stories on lolliwood..take care.

Re: Survey of pedophiles

That is one of the consequences of online social programs like Facebook, that different aspects of your life start getting meshed together, sometimes without your will or consent. And while it's not illegal to write, read or store fictional stories or cartoon/3D drawings depending on your jurisdiction, the opinions of your peers, friends and family aren't governed by the laws, and they may not want to associate with you for writing these kinds of stories. It can go so far as to get you fired or prevent you from finding a new job because of something you do off the clock, in your own personal time, that is legal and irrelevant to how you perform at your job. We've subconsciously taken the concept of uniformity to a new extreme, where one's personal life becomes as important as their public one, if not more so, for nebulous reasons.

I get the reason for this survey, that Bailey wants to challenge the common misconceptions of pedophilia and get a better understanding of it, and separate those who have those thoughts and feelings from the people who have acted on them. But realize that you're asking people to stick their head out and trying to convince them that it isn't into a guillotine. People don't want to be the target of the police for something that's in their head, or for a crime that they haven't committed, and in the current socio-political climate with for-profit prisons and arrest quotas in states like New York, that is doubly so.

Also realize that sites like this and individual members are sometimes targeted by vigilantes that want to enact frontier justice in some way, and will use anything a person has said to try and get the police involved, or hack their computer or accounts and sabotage them, or post their personal information online and incite others to violence, which that in itself is illegal.

And yeah, while you may fill out the survey anonymously, almost nothing nowadays is actually "anonymous", and this is such a sensitive subject, researching it or even talking about it carries an intense degree of taboo.

Re: Survey of pedophiles

Oh cool! I was actually saddened when I first heard it was illegal back in the UK to read stories like this. My thought was "what is the country turning into?!?" but right now I'm glad and a little ashamed (I thought I was smarter than that) I fell for a myth :-D

Re: Literary theory question--present tense

Thanks, Mark. I was just interested in people's thoughts on the subject. It just never occurred to me that readers would object to it.

It's been a good discussion I think. I would say most people agree with you that the present tense is a bad idea, although many also think experimentation with different styles is a good idea.

Re: Survey of pedophiles

Actually...reading, writing and storing of these fantasy stories in the UK is actually LEGAL!!

Trust me - I checked it out with a Barrister (who specialises in sexual offences) as I wondered what the legality of it was.

Quote - "While some people may find them distasteful etc, it is certainly NOT illegal to view such websites, write, read or store such stories"

Also, someone of my acquaintance had them stored on his e-reader which was forensically examined by the police - which they handed back to him 24 hours later with everything still there!

So there you go! ;)
C.L

Re: Survey of pedophiles

I suppose there's no reason to vote in elections either if you want an immediate personal pay-off.

If you assume everyone is out to get you and refuse to even give anonymous opinions, existing prejudices will exist forever. The influential researcher Gene Abel studying a population of child porn offenders wrote that many of them said they hadn't had a contact offense with a child, but on interview he concluded they were all mistaken and they all had. A great many people think that, and also believe anyone attracted to children abuses them. If that doesn't apply to you, being counted in an anonymous survey could help.

Of course, my only intent was to give people an opportunity to fill out the survey if they wanted to. Many won't, of course, but I don't think it's fair to call those who do stupid.

Re: Survey of pedophiles

Oh, and I should point out that the reason why I'm not worried about LEA is because reading, writing and storing stories like the ones here are legal where I live so I have nothing to worry about. Unfortunately it seems there are places (I'm looking at you UK) where it's not like that unfortunately.

Re: Survey of pedophiles

hehehe...there is a HUGE difference between posting some random comments on a forum and actually divulging real life information to somebody, no matter the subject be it sexual preferences or what cookies I eat.

It's not LEA I'm worried about, I'm just paranoid by nature when it comes to posting personal stuff on the net. I never "like" anything on facebook, I never comment in newspapers under my real name etc. If LEA wants to gather information about what car I like and what comments I post regarding the new dreamliner aircraft they are welcome to it. What I worry about is friends, family and potential employers digging up some random comment made 10 years ago on the net or some drunken party picture from college days etc. That's why I restrict what personal information I post online.

Re: Literary theory question--present tense

As a writer I'm telling a story. Since I've never managed to tell someone a story as it was happening, I believe that the general narrative (action, i.e. "said," "moved," etc.) should be in the past tense. Dialog, on the other hand, should generally be in the present tense (i.e. "that feels amazing," "your hands are so warm," etc.), since that is how the vast majority of people actually speak.

While I (as a writer) enjoy trying different things (writing styles, points of view, etc.), I try to stick with the past tense structure...

Re: Literary theory question--present tense

Chris, I was the one who made that comment. I have read scores of comments by writers (amateur and pro) that say present tense is bad.

Personally, I dislike it because it feels unnatural (to me) because no one ever speaks in present tense in real life. Along with that, I'm not there as you tell me the story.

Re: Ooops!! lol

The reason for not posting your stories could be the spelling errors.

Re: Survey of pedophiles

Ask yourselves what possible benefit there could be for you for participating in a survey where you disclose your predilictions to anonymous individuals collecting that data for unspecified reasons for their own purposes to share with whomever they wish.

Is anyone really THAT STUPID???

"There's a sucker born every minute"

Re: Survey of pedophiles

Could this be the same James Bailey of the survey?

http://youtu.be/IoZoRbP-0WM

He comes on at the 2:53 mark, although referred to as Michael Bailey. There is a J. Michael Bailey at Northwestern and I think they're the same person because he conducts research on biology and sexual orientation. Perhaps he investigates other types of attraction too.

You can probably rest assured that this isn't some LEA trap. But I would advise caution if you contribute anything to his study. Professors do not have attorney-client privilege with their participants and they're also not journalists who will protect their sources. Although your names won't be collected, something like a court order in the future might get the lab to sell out your IP addresses.

I'm not suggesting that any of you are doing anything illegal, but given the high social stigma against people like us I also prefer to stay off the grid.

Re: Survey of pedophiles

It's hard to trust anything in cyberspace, I guess. I am the author here known as "Sterling" (also on ASSTR) of a fair number of lengthy stories (not just some identity I made up to post this). I have corresponded with Jim Bailey by email a fair amount and know him to be a decent guy, willing to take unpopular positions (he has a Wikipedia page). I know him to be sympathetic to law-abiding pedophiles. Northwestern University is a reputable institution. I'm not sure if someone with more savvy can prove that's where it's coming from. If law enforcement has their tentacles out in ways we don't foresee, I'm not sure why you'd have more confidence that your info is not being collected here than it is there.

Re: Survey of pedophiles

I wish I actually trusted such promises since I do think it's important that other aspects of fantasy and attractions get explored in academia instead of the usual "I were molested as a kid and have no impulse control and are now getting banged by bubba in max-sec because of it"

Maybe if they got data from more people like me that enjoy a good fantasy but would never actually act on it then the taboo and stigma might become less (yeah, I'm not holding my breath while I wait for that though). But how can we participate when the consequences of becoming outed is so high?

Re: Survey of pedophiles

Alright, I did a quick research dive for the university, and immediately, I came up with several links where they posted on other forums of sites similar to this one, and through one, I found a link to screenshots of the whole survey. It's pretty long, so it might take a while to load.

http://postimg.org/image/8d9yzzcuz/

I might recommend deleting the post, but I'll let the admins be the judge.

Re: Survey of pedophiles

"We are administering this survey anonymously, and we do not collect ip or email addresses."

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Right, and I'm the Easter Bunny!

Re: Ooops!! lol

to ooops...on a side note from a reader who has tried time and time again to post stories.though i've read the rules and i'm able to post comments to other writers stories i've yet to see a single one of my stories printed here on lolliwood.any advice as to what i'm doing wrong would be appreciated.note;i've also requested a reply from lolliwood but have not recieved a response to date thank you.

Re: Ooops!! lol

"...I hate stories where you have a 3yo talking like a 25 yo hooker LOL"

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Whereas a 3yo screwing like a 25 yo hooker is a welcome theme, here in Loliwood. Go figure?

Moral of the story:
Here in Loliwood, if a 3 yo old is using her mouth like a 25 yo hooker, you had better not have her talking!

LOL ;-)

Survey of pedophiles

People reading this are probably just on this site for fun and aren't up for joining any movements. But one small thing you can do to make your voice heard is to take an anonymous online survey run by Northwestern University. This is genuine respectable research. Society knows very little about pedophiles unless they are caught breaking the law. Many do not abuse children, yet many people think all pedophiles are abusers.

This is from the researchers:

We are researchers at Northwestern University, Department of Psychology, under the supervision of Professor Michael Bailey. We are conducting a survey of men and women sexually attracted to young persons (defined in this study as persons aged 14 or younger). The purposes of this survey include exploration of: the development and phenomenology of attraction to young persons; the experiences of individuals attracted to young persons discussing their feelings with mental health professionals and important acquaintances/relatives; differences among individuals attracted to young persons between those who act on them and those who do not act on them (Note that we will not ask you about any illegal acts you may or may not have committed except those known to legal authorities.); and aspects of your sexuality that have not been studied well previously, such as the degree of your attractions to adults and to the idea of being a child. We are administering this survey anonymously, and we do not collect ip or email addresses. The link to the study is:

https://nwpsych.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_1TSSDRFUU3tO5RX

Re: Ooops!! lol

You're absolutely right.
I read a review the other day where the reader picked up on two things.
Apparently a character was watching HBO in the story... before HBO came on air!
Then a charaqcter accessed the internet... BEFORE it came into being!

Things like that discredit you as a credible author and if you get it wrong there will ALWAYS be some there to pick you up on it.

Althogh all my stories are fiction of course, my over riding aim is realism, so when someone reads it, they are left wondering if it is fiction. I have had so many emails asking if my stories are based on real life amnd trust me when I say they're not.
I hate stories where you have a 3yo talking like a 25 yo hooker lol it just work for me!

Re: Ooops!! lol

No worries! :)

I feel that a character sheet is a must, I have one that shows me all characters and places (such as Charlie's Diner) for my stories, even brief mentions or 'walk on' parts.

I read a story yesterday where brief mention was made of "Angela, the Filipino lady who cut my hair" in chapter 2, but by chapter 6, it had been changed to "Lillian had been cutting my hair for about 10 years now," with a fairly important scene and dialogue between the main character and Lillian (not of Filipino origin by this point.)

I actually keep two character sheets, one is an alphabetical master list with male first names, female first names, and surnames, and an abbreviation indicating a story where a name was used. I try to avoid using the same name twice, particularly for a main character (marked by an asterisk.) The other is sorted by story, and I have the name, sex, age (if needed,) occupation (if needed,) and relation to other characters (if needed.)

Here is one for an upcoming story, The Loli-Ville Children's Home:
(Note, the abbreviation for the master list is just (LV) for the shared universe, I don't want to use the same first name for different characters within the universe.)

Loli-Ville 04: The Loli-Ville Children's Home (LV)
*William Erickson - M (30)
*Cindy Wallace - F (22, college student)
*Elizabeth Cameron - f (11)
Mr. Cameron - M (deceased, Elizabeth's father)
Mrs. Patterson - F (older, apartment super)
Pam Miller - F (Sheriff)
Dr. Olivia Stone - F (psychiatrist)
Ms. Emma Johnson - F (Director of the Children's Home)
Brett - M (brought to visit Elizabeth)
Alexis - g (10, lives at the Children's Home)
Carla - f (??) mentioned in William's past, 10th grade tormentor
Bernie - M (??) Deceased, mentioned in William's past, he sponsored William to Loli-Ville
Kendra Tanner - f (11, Elizabeth's best friend)
Mr. Tanner - M (Kendra's father)

Since Loli-Ville is a universe with multiple quasi-related stories in it, I have a separate character sheet just for Loli-Ville and its stories that lists important characters to the universe, even if they are just a background character in a particular story. Sheriff Pam Miller is one such character, she was in Loli-Ville #01: Pete Comes to Town, wasn't in the second story, and had a brief scene in the fourth story (unposted.) She might show up in the third story (also unposted.)

Another good thing to have is a timeline, to keep track of days and dates. If the writer says something about it being cold enough to see your breath, and the next scene shows kids at the beach during summer break, the writer either goofed, or needs to indicate that there was a large passage of time between the scenes.

Some stories don't need it, if they are all happening within the space of a few days. The day of the week might not even be mentioned, just yesterday, today, and tomorrow. I had to make a timeline for A Father on Trial as it made several references to past events that took place on specific dates and periods of time. I also made one for Pedophile Grooming Club, as the school year is going on and the girls wouldn't be able to have a sleepover in the middle of the week.

Ooops!! lol

.and apologies for the mis-spelling of Otakuman!! lol ;)

Re: Literary theory question--present tense

I wasn't going to enter this debate but...

Having been ill and unable to write, I have managed to read a number of stories here - something I don't often get the chance to do.
Many have the the potential to be great... IF the author took just a little more care!

What am I talking about?
I'm not going to mention names as it isn't my intention to embarrass anyone, but many I have read haven't even bothered to run it through a basic spell checker!
ALL word-processing programmes have them, and the two most popular (MS Office & Openoffice) also have good grammar checkers too (the openoffice one is a separate download btw) so there really isn't any excuse. This is being written on a cheap 50 quid android tab, yet I STILL have a spell check on it.

However, DO NOT rely on it. There is no substitute for reading it through yourself - ideally print it out and go through it as misspelled words are then easier to spot or you can read it out aloud.
A spell check will only check against the spelling of words it knows and won't pick up on common confusables; there/their/they're, weather/whether that sort of thing - so YOU need to check it carefully and get in the habit of doing it.

Make sure your characters are consistent. What I mean is, if LISA has BLUE eyes and BLONDE hair at the beginning, make sure is ISN'T LOUISE with green eyes and brown hair by the end!! If need be, make a note!
In my 'If you go down to the woods' - I have a sheet with descriptions (physical and character) as the character 'Andy' had 6 children and there are another 16 in the orphanage!

As far as tense goes... present NEVER works for me. Past tense always... as I am describing what has HAPPENED, rather than what is happening. Oktuman is absolutely spot on by saying you should NEVER mix tenses!

Similarly, with point of view (POV). Whatever you choose, be it 1st person, 3rd person, narrator etc, you have to stick with it and be consistent right through and not suddenly change it. I personally prefer the 1st person as I feel that works best for me, but the choice is your own.

I know I have waffled a bit here and apologies, but I needed to get it off my chest. I will always assist anyone who wants their work proof reading - just email it as an attachment to me (txt, doc, docx) and I'll happily go through it for you!

C.L

Dance Moms

Another season came to an end. Do you have a favorite dancer?

Re: Literary theory question--present tense

Seriously, what is with this guy?

I keep to the past tense, strictly. I don't like the idea of present tense for a storytelling perspective. It just doesn't work for me.

Re: Literary theory question--present tense

No comment! ;)

Of course, the plumbing is still somewhat different, even if both sexes share that opening. However, I had some detailed correspondence with a lesbian reader who had some experiences with males, and she gave me some nice information that I was able to use.

Somehow it's easier to talk about with anonymous internet strangers, rather than someone in my actual life. - "So, honey, could you tell me what it's like to love cock? I'm going to write a story about underage kids having sex! Umm... Who are you calling? Why are there lights flashing outside?"

Re: Literary theory question--present tense

Many of my stories are written from the view of a heterosexual adult male, as that is what I am. I have diverged a bit to write from the mind of a girl or woman on occasion, and I hope I did the gender justice.... For females, I had to not only describe how sex felt to them, but also their feelings when looking at or holding a cock, which is foreign to me (other than my own, of course.)"

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Well, you could shove a banana up your ass ( purely in the interest of writer's research, of course!) Some say that to hone your creativity you need to suffer for your art. That would do it!

LOL ;-)

Re: Literary theory question--present tense

Thanks Otakuman (and everyone else!). I have to say that I have on occasion written stories from what I would call "dual subjective"—two characters subjectively witnessing the same thing. I think it can be very interesting if done well, and it seems to fit with sex stories as there are after all two participants with possibly dramatically different perspectives on what is happening.

I do tend to mix tenses, which annoys me and I hope I straighten out during proof reading. However I also think somewhere in my small brain I have a literary theory behind the mixing of tenses in a story—temporal narratives should always be in past tense; real-time thoughts and emotions and actions maybe work better in present tense. Something like that, haven't worked it all oh in my mind yet.

Re: Literary theory question--present tense

I don't think I've used present tense before. Most books I've read have always been past tense, and usually third-person subjective as well. That is my comfort zone for writing.

Many of my stories are written from the view of a heterosexual adult male, as that is what I am. I have diverged a bit to write from the mind of a girl or woman on occasion, and I hope I did the gender justice. It's a bit easier to write from the viewpoint of a young male teen (or even preteen, but I don't think I've done that yet.) After all, I used to be a young boy, and the equipment is the same (just larger and hairier.) For females, I had to not only describe how sex felt to them, but also their feelings when looking at or holding a cock, which is foreign to me (other than my own, of course.)

I also have stretched out and tried a few stories from a first-person perspective, which is fairly easy to do (this post is first-person, for example.)

The most important thing to remember is don't mix your viewpoints or your tenses. If you are writing in subjective mode, make sure you only know the thoughts and feelings of the character that you're following.

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Sam glanced around the room, until his gaze settled on the woman in the red dress. "She's just my type," I thought. Sally saw the cute guy staring at her, and hoped he'd make a move.

I wave at her, so she came over introduces herself. She strokes my cock through my pants, and I shivered from her touch. Sally wonders if she can make Sam come in his pants.

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I have Dropbox going, and I try to keep my stories backed up (reminder to myself, I need to do that again, as I've made some edits and progress since the last backup.)

I had just started writing my very first story, when my hard drive went PBPBPBHPH! I probably wasn't even a thousand words in, but it's kind of "the one that got away." I managed to jot down the gist of it, but all it is right now is a simple paragraph describing the basic idea of the story. It was a guy that got abducted by aliens, and there was a young girl (Japanese?) that had also been abducted. I think I was even going to have a tentacle "rape" scene, the AI was going to do it (under orders from the aliens,) but allowed the guy to do it instead (as the guy would be more considerate.) The 'tentacles' were connected to his mind like Doc Oc's arms, and he could feel with them (arms, or even multiple penises.)

I was also working on the plot of a 'Loli' game with multiple characters that would have been quite fun, but due to a couple of posts asking about various elements in the game, I've managed to reconstruct most of that.

For what it's worth, I wrote the first part of Surviving the End (my first posted story) while my computer was down. I hand wrote it on 4 pages, and had to stop because of hand cramps. I'm not used to physically writing things, I always type on the computer.

When I got my new hard drive, I typed up the handwritten stuff and expanded on it. The story is sitting at about 22,000 words now, so I figure that's not bad (I know, I haven't touched it in a year or more.) I think I asked a friend about online storage, and he sent me a link to Dropbox.

I may start looking for a second place as well, just so I still have a backup in case Dropbox goes under.

Re: Literary theory question--present tense

I find present tense narration annoying - for this reason I forced myself to use it in one of my stories. The result was acceptable, I think, but only because the arc of the story was very short. In general, I think it deprives us of the romance of time, the unfolding of a sequence of events, temporal movement. An instant is just the leading edge of a history, and to focus on it exclusively limits the imagination and, to an extent, impoverishes our experiences. It was fun to dabble, though.

Re: Literary theory question--present tense

I have nothing against present tense. I've read stories written in present tense before. It's not something you find often but they exist. I think your stories are well written and I applaud your out-of-the box approach to writing. In my opinion more authors should experiment with different styles and techniques instead of going down the well trodden path of erotic writing. After all this should be about creative writing but as soon someone gets creative and challenge the norms of writing people start moaning and complaining. I say screw them and do your own thing.

Re: Just popped in quickly...

Yes, yes, the "ten minutes" comment was meant merely to illustrate the point and not intended to be indicative of my stamina. I thought about writing "a thousand word story" and "five minutes," but that seemed too short (for the story at least).

Re: Just popped in quickly...

I trust Microsoft about as much as I do Google lol.
The 2 I use are accessible on any device plus you can set passcodes on them so should I lose my tablet or phone, they can't be accessed.
I'm new to cloud storage too but with 60 gig available for free (20 from Dropbox and 20 from each norton account) I have more than enough for my needs and would recommend either.
I would avoid both Google & MS personally.
C.L

Re: Literary theory question--present tense

"...after all, you can read a couple-thousand word story in about ten minutes, and you can complete a sex act in about ten minutes as well (at least if you exclude the fore- and after-)."

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"Ten minutes"??? Pshaw. Apparently I only need about four minutes; just ask my wife, ...she likes to lament to everyone.
And that "fore- and after-" stuff is overrated (although my wife has an opinion about THAT, too).

:-(

Re: Just popped in quickly...

Is anyone using "Microsoft Skydrive"? And if so do you have a sense for how secure it is (i.e., in addition to letters and stories do you think it is safe enough for personal financial and taxes backup copies, etc?)
I too had a hard disk drive failure about 18 mos. ago and think I should consider off-site cloud backups.
Advice is very welcome as this is new territory for me too.

Re: Just popped in quickly...

I'm not keen on anything that relates to Gooogle tbh. I'm using Dropbox on a free 20gig account which is more than enough as I am using it solely for my writing. Can also access them via my phone & tablet which is handy. I also have 2 20gig free accounts with Norton so hopefully my stories will now always be backed up somewhere!
C.L

Literary theory question--present tense

In one of my stories, a reviewer posted the following comment:

"Writing in present tense is a no-no with many writers.... and me (a reader)."

How do people in this forum feel? Do the writers here agree that present tense is a no-no? Do the readers agree? If so, why, or if not, why not?

I like to write in present tense, sometimes. I think it works particularly well for sex stories; for historical narratives it can be confusing, but with sex you can (one might even say you _should_) describe the act itself in "real time"--after all, you can read a couple-thousand word story in about ten minutes, and you can complete a sex act in about ten minutes as well (at least if you exclude the fore- and after-). I think it is not easy to write in present tense, but if done well can be quite good. I'm interested in other's ideas.

Re: Just popped in quickly...

Ever since my hard drive died for the second time, I started using Googledocs for all my writing. Also physical media, because I play a lot of video games in fullscreen, and my computer's not powerful enough to multitask with certain games.

Re: Just popped in quickly...

Hi PF

I was hoping no-one was going to mention that as it is a bit of a sore subject lol
Let me explain. It was the story I was working on when my system went dolally and I lost EVERYTHING that I had been working on - 6 of which were almost finished (including Going for Gold) so I have to start again from scratch... boo hoo
Annoying though because that triligy was MEANT to have been published during the olympics... maybe it will be ready in time for Brazil who knows?

Seriously though, I WILL rewrite it, just not sure when at the moment. The good news it will not happen again... not now I have discovered CLOUD STORAGE... :-)

Everything now gets copied there automatically so that if disaster does happen to strike again, my hard work will not disappear!
All I can say is.... watch this space! :-)

C.L

Re: Just popped in quickly...

... and "Going for the Gold"????? (fingers crossed)

Re: Just popped in quickly...

*** CUMMING SOON ***
"Football Crazy"
"House Hunter" and...
"Alice's Further Adventures In Paedoland!"
...watch this space... ;)
C.L

Thanks

I hope everyone will bear with me if I use this forum to say a big thank you to everyone that has been asking after me & welcomed me back once I submitted new Chapters of "The Secret".

I really didn't suffer from writers block, boredom, lack of interest or any other of those "serious" issues. I simply suffered from a lack of time!!!!

Anyway, thank you for your kind comments.

Re: Committee to approve new residents for a special town (Loli-Ville)

I think you should ask yourself how much detail you should and want to divulge about the inner workings of the committee. It's a bit of a pointless exercise if they don't play that big of a role in the series, for one. Two, I'm not sure what exactly you're going for with this. I know you want to keep this open for other writers to add onto it, but the way I write my stories is very objective-oriented on the meta level. I don't write something unless there's something I want to do, and the entire chapter builds up to that. The last thing I want to happen in my writing is it to have a filler sex scene, where, for example, Jennifer and Sam fuck for the fifth time. If it's just the fucking, forget it, that's boring to me.

Part of my compulsion as a writer is to keep the story and action fresh, to prevent it from getting stale. What makes the sex more passionate and exciting, in my opinion, is the adventure, the character development, and the reconciliation. Regular old fucking just doesn't cut it for me, and from my perspective, that's the largest obstacle you'll come across with this project.

But that's just my perspective.

Re: Committee to approve new residents for a special town (Loli-Ville)

Wow, with all due respect, that seems like an awful lot of extremely fussy thought and words to describe an aspect of the story -- the makeup of the Committee to approve new residents for the special town of Loli-Ville -- that the average reader isn't going to give a flying squat about reading ("anal-retentive" is the phrase which comes to mind).

A better screening committee for new adult residents of "Loli-Ville" could better consist of seven LITTLE girls and one BIG tube of lube!!!

HA! There you go. You're welcome.

;-)

Re: Committee to approve new residents for a special town (Loli-Ville)

From my original post:
The committee will have seven members, so that there will never be a tie vote. The current members are: the sheriff (currently Pam Miller,) a psychiatrist or psychologist) (currently Dr. Olivia Stone,) a judge (currently Judge Abner Holloway,) the high school principal (currently Ms. Chambers,) and three more.

The sheriff, the judge, and the high school principal would be appointed to the committee by virtue of their positions, there is probably only one judge in a small town like that.

I originally just had a psychiatrist listed, but I changed that to include the option of a psychologist as well. There may be a few in town, as they want to ensure that a child truly isn't harmed by adult sexual contact (the verdict is in, they aren't!) Due to the openness about sex, the townsfolk (children and adults) don't have any sexual 'hangups,' and they have better mental health than the rest of the world.

I am considering one member might be an advocate for the potential resident, or the 'voice' of the sponsor of that resident. This position might be filled by the public defender.

Again, since there is probably only one public defender in town (or one defense lawyer and one prosecutor,) this position would be automatically filled by the public defender.

Another committee member might be a business owner, but I have no idea as to what kind of business. Maybe this is an elected position that changes every couple of years.

This would probably be the only elected position, and all business owners in town are eligible.

The final member might be a young child that has good instincts for people, although I am open to other suggestions.

I'm not sure how the child would be appointed, maybe he or she is elected, or maybe a teacher or mental health professional might suggest a name of someone with an outgoing personality. I'm not 100% sure if the committee even needs this position and the business owner, if they were omitted, the committee would still have an odd number to avoid tie votes.

Re: Committee to approve new residents for a special town (Loli-Ville)

Well, on your original concept on the different members of the committee, how are they elected or chosen to fill those positions? Do they possess some specific skill or insight into judging new members, or do they hold a position of power or authority within the community?

Re: Committee to approve new residents for a special town (Loli-Ville)

I appreciate your input. I'm not necessarily trying to write a scene like that in Men in Black where Will Smith's character goes through the screening with the 'best and the brightest' guys from all the military services, but I want to have the details lined out so that I can insert portions of them here and there in the stories. Since I'm hoping to open the universe up to other writers, I want to have that background information completed so that they can use the information as well.

The world of your 'Guild' is quite a bit different than Loli-Ville, as Loli-Ville is more about free sex. Due to 'something in the water' (a vague explanation that won't be expanded on within the stories,) all residents of the town are horny (including the children, and the very young get it through breast milk.) The town has two major rules which are Nothing Without Permission and Do No Harm. The children are free to refuse sex from anyone, although they don't, because they like it. Most children live in traditional family units with a mother and/or father.

There are less boys born, and due to increased testosterone the boys (and some of the girls) often want to leave town when they are older, to explore the world (and find sexual partners that AREN'T from the same small town.) Because of that, the town occasionally accepts new members, although single men aren't usually the first choice.

Orphaned children, particularly those who enjoy sex, are sought out or even rescued in the case of an abused child. Single women may or may not be accepted, and families that enjoy sex are most likely to be accepted.

If a former town member comes across a like-minded someone during their travels, they might sponsor that person to the town, if they can show that the person would be good for the town (or in some cases, the town would be good for the person.)

So far in the stories (published and unpublished,) I've had several new people come to town:
1. Pete (from Loli-Ville #1) - He drifts into town and is accidentally exposed to 'something in the water.'
2. Amber and her father (from Loli-Ville #2) - A former town member was friends with her father, and both were screwing her (to her great enjoyment.)
3. Sarah and her mother (also from Loli-Ville #2) - I don't know their reason for coming to town yet.
4. Elizabeth (The Loli-Ville Children's Home, unposted) was orphaned in a car wreck outside of Loli-Ville, and they discovered she and her father had been moving away from 'nosy neighbors'.
5. William (also The Loli-Ville Children's Home) - Had a close friend who was originally from Loli-Ville. The friend was dying of cancer, and worked hard to bring William to town, as the town would help William with a social anxiety problem.
6. 'The Writer' (The Writer's Tale, unpublished) - 'I' (The FICTIONAL writer of the Loli-Ville series) discover that the town is a real place, and 'I' eventually end up there.
7. Jim and Angel Stevenson (A Father on Trial) move to Loli-Ville to hide from public outcry, on the advice of their attorney (a former Loli-Ville resident.)

I don't think I'll introduce any more new residents, most of the ideas I have revolve around the people listed above. A story focusing on a Loli-Ville resident who was born and raised there would be completely different. I also wonder about other writers just writing variations on the idea of someone new coming to town and finding young girls for sex.

I DO have a vague idea of a preacher coming to Loli-Ville, maybe there was some sort of scandal where he did something inappropriate with a younger girl (although it wasn't proven.) When warned about the scandal by an outsider, a Loli-Villean might say with small town wisdom, "Well, we figure we already know what his problem is, and we can keep an eye on him. If we got a preacher without a scandal, who knows what might pop up in the future." The preacher might struggle with his sexual addiction, and preach that the sexual urges must be resisted, or he might accept that 'there is something in the water' and therefore the sex is natural and not any more of a sin than breathing.

Re: Committee to approve new residents for a special town (Loli-Ville)

I wrote a series called Bondage Princess May and published it on the ASSTR main site underneath the same penname I have now, and it had a similar setup introduced around chapter 8 that Mistress Beth was a member of a group referred to as the Guild (because I couldn't think of a better name) that, through information networks and connections, they kidnap abused and neglected children, with a focus on orphans and foster children, in the dead of night and turn them into sex slaves that are disciplined and trained to function well in society. The sex is an added bonus, but some Masters and Mistresses have certain restrictions they place on their slaves. For example, in the Boytoy Jay spinoff (which I posted elsewhere), the main character Jay is prohibited from fucking girls and can only take it up the ass from other boys or girls with strapons, and he can't receive oral unless it's by the wish of a Master or Mistress.

How exactly new Masters and Mistresses are chosen was a bit nebulous, but in a bit that I didn't publish (and I'd have to rewrite it before I submit it to here), it was implied that some of the Masters or Mistresses are actually former slaves themselves, since the Guild has been around for well over half a century and the founder is nigh on 90 years old.

Anyways, the point I'm getting to is a society like that would be pretty isolated and very conservative about introducing new people into their ranks, especially in my case where the Masters and Mistresses were all upper-class citizens as sort of a prerequisite in order to properly take care of their slaves; not Forbes 500 level, but enough so they can pay for all the equipment, the additional rooms for slave training, and so on. As for introducing new Masters and mistresses, that's a toughie. Obviously there's the whole issue about trying to filter out the saboteurs or the undesirables, but you don't need to and probably shouldn't get too detailed about the process.