The Dreambook for The Ogham Stone.
Thanks to everyone for visiting!
Note comments are presented here from oldest (top) to newest (bottom).
-Liberty
| Name: | Liberty |
| Homepage URL: | http://ogham.lyberty.com |
| Comments: | Folks - Please note that I can not honor any requests for translations. TIP: When attempting to write things in Ogam, please remember that it was not designed to write English. It was designed for Irish Gaelic (and old irish at that). Any attempts to write in Ogam should begin with an attempt to translate your word or phrase into Irish. -Liberty (site author) ogham.lyberty.com |
| Name: | Larry Huskey |
| Location: | Tampa Bay, FL |
| Comments: | I was interested in knowing how I would write my name in the Ogham alphabet
could you provide me with some Ideas.
I would be very Greatful Thank You Larry Huskey |
| Name: | Stephen C Grant-Davies |
| Comments: | Hi. I'm interested if you can help me or point me to some one who can; I have a picture of an Ogham like stone, which I would like help in translating, does it make any sense too you?
Thanks in advance- Stephen C Grant-Davies |
| Name: | LadyDragon_hawke1(Aqua) |
| Location: | London UK |
| E-mail address: | WiccanTarotTalk@hotmail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://groups.msn.com/WiccanTarotTalk |
| Comments: | I very much enjoyed your site and will be coming back. You've got me hooked on getting down to some serious research.
Blessings Aqua |
| Name: | Willow |
| Location: | United States |
| E-mail address: | maidenofdomhan@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | Love the sight, but had a little problem with the "Straight Lines" section. (pictures not viewable)
Anyway, thanks for the info! Willow |
| Name: | Todd W. Christensen |
| Location: | Philadelphia, Pennsylvania |
| E-mail address: | investinator03@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | Todd W. Christensen... americanes-derwyddol. cymorth mi dallt mau cyndadau derwyddol. e-bostio mi ai sgrifennu at...
P.O. Box 716 Lansdowne, Pennsylvania 19050 USA cymraeg ai - or english |
| Name: | Luke Kraft |
| Location: | B.c, Canada |
| E-mail address: | Lukek15hotmail.com |
| Comments: | Intresting site, but I was wondering if you had anything else on the supposed origons of this language... |
| Name: | Laianna van Ghent |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| E-mail address: | Laianna@aol.com |
| Comments: | I was so thankful to see that someone had taken the time and care to put this on the net - I have spent years looking for good books on the subject - with your help I found out about and have now purchased "The White Goddess".
Thank you xxxxxxxxxx |
| Name: | Olivia Spencer |
| Location: | New York State |
| E-mail address: | AngelicPapillon@YAHOO.com |
| Comments: | I love this website. It has really helped me to sort out a lot of the alphabet and what is authentic and what isn't. I was just wondering though if anyone knows how I can learn the Irish Language (i've already looked into books but i don't know if i would be able to do that on my own)? Like it is said on one of the other pages, the ogham is used better with gaelic. I would really appreciate it. Thank you. |
| Name: | lyberty (irish_dreamer) |
| Homepage URL: | http://ogham.lyberty.com |
| Comments: | --- OsoAzul013@aol.com wrote me to ask:
"What language is the ogham in exactly? like what language BEFORE Irish?"
>
As noted, at the top of the forum, old irish Gaelic.
Now, your question might not have been "what was the language before Irish?", but I'm going to answer it anyway (because I find that question more interesting...):
The language that came before Ancient Irish Gaelic can be called "Celtic".
Celtic, and the later Gaelic languages, have always been in the
Indo-European family of languages.
The short answer is: Ogham was probably used to write Gaelic,
and later "Irish"
(from Old Irish Gaelic to modern Irish Gaelic).
Some background:
circa 12000 B.C.:
The Common Celtic language was probably very similar to its
relatives Italic, Illyrian and Venetic. Celtic words and
word elements were borrowed by Slavic and Germanic languages
in this very early epoch.
circa 600 BC:
Goidelic-speaking Celts from Spain arrive in Ireland.
[The most ancient remnants of a celtic dialect in written
form have been found in northern Italy
(Sesto Calende, ~600 b.C., Castelletto Ticino, ~575-550 b.C.).
It is a relatively recent acquisition that these (Lepontic)
inscriptions are actually written in a celtic dialect
(Lejeune, "Lepontica", 1971).]
4th century B.C.:
Invasion of "Q-Celtic" speaking peoples to Ireland
(probably from Western France)
("P-Celtic" grew out of invasions from Ireland to southern
England and Wales, and from there (in 5th century A.D.) to Brittany.)
Note that the language evolved though: the "Gaels" (after
whom Gaelic is named)
did not arrive in Ireland until about 100 B.C.
(some scholars believe as early as 300 B.C.).
In other words, the form of Celtic that was to become
Irish was brought to Ireland by the invading Gaels.
You can find more info at
http://www.celticcrossroads.com/index1.htm
http://www.siliconglen.com/celtfaq/1_3.html
Regards,
-Liberty
(webmaster)
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| Name: | Christopher Nyerges |
| Location: | Los Angeles |
| E-mail address: | Christopher_Nyerges@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | Great page, and I have never noticed it before.
I began a very intense study of ogam and related topics in 2000 when I discovered a huge boulder in California's Angeles Forest which had an inscription consistent with ogam. I couldn't believe it when I found it, and I have taken geologists, Indians, and archaeologists there. A film documentary is underway. Geologists say the inscription is indeed old, though you use educated guesswork with stone. Most say clearly over 1000 years, meaning it is not some sort of modern carving. Archaeologists say such cannot be there, so therefore it is obviously natural. However, all the marks are more or less consistent with ogam, and I was even able to come up with a translation using Dwelly's English-Gaelic dictionary. To see images, go to http://www.equinox-project.com/nyerges.htm. I would very much enjoy hearing your comments about this. Christopher |
| Name: | Mary Louise Tudor |
| Location: | 4/10 Winmalee,Balwyn. |
| E-mail address: | aridite@bigpond.com |
| Comments: | I was absolutely delighted to find your thought provoking work on the OGHAM script.
I wonder which of them was the tree of life?... Curiously the star, Eabhadh brought to mind the name YHVH of the Torah. Deuteronomy 6:4. in Hebrew says 'Shema Israel, YHVH Elohenu, YHVH echad.' Hear O Israel EHV-uh Elohenu, EHV-uh is ONE, I thought that perhaps in the beginning the star was the first letter. Just a thought. Beith in Hebrew means the HOUSE OF GOD, purpose God's swelling place below.and Sunday. Shiyn - The eternalflame.Summer. Fire Mem - Fountain of Wisdom. Winter. Water Aleph - The paradox God and man. Air. Autumn and Spring. Giymel - Reward and Punishment. Monday. Daleth - Selflessness. Tuesday. Kaph - The Crown, the power to actualise potential. Wednesday. PE - Communication, the oral law.Thursday. Reysh - Process, the art of clarification. Friday. Tav - Impression , the seal of creation. Saturday. He - Expression, thought, speech, action. Nisan. Air. VAV - Connection. IYAR. air. Zayin - The woman of valour. SIVAN. AIR. CHEYTH - The life dynamic, run and return. TAMUZ. Summer. Fire. TEYTH - Introversion, the concealed good. AV, summer, Fire. Yowd - The Infinite point. ELUL. Summer, Fire. Lamed - Motivated ambition, Contemplation of the heart, TISHREI, Air. NUWN - The messiah, heir to the throne. CHESHVAN, Air. Camek - The endless cycle. KISLEV. Air. AYIN - Divine providence, TEVET, Winter, Water. TSADDEY,THE FAITH OF THE RIGHTEOUS ONE, SH'VAT, Winter, Water. QOWPH - Omnipresence.ADAR, Winter, water. It occurred to me that the OGHAM letters may well represent something along similar lines to the Hebrew word meanings. In the beginning of life on Earth, every thing had a number, before it had a name, maybe that is why the OGHAM seems such a numerical script. The Torah (Bible) code for EDEN, Genesis 2:4-10 the word EDEN is encoded at least 16 times. It also mentions various plants,'WHEAT, VINE, GRAPE,CHESTNUT,FOREST, DATE,ACCACIA, BRAMBLE, CEDAR, NUT, FIG, WILLOW, POMEGRANATE, ALOE, TAMARISK, OAK, POPLAR, CASSIA, ALMOND, MASTIC, THORN, HAZEL, OLIVE, CITRON, FIR.' It makes you think doesn't it. Once again, I was really pleased to see you web-site. Thank-you. Regards. Mary. |
| Name: | erek gass |
| Location: | new freedom pa usa |
| E-mail address: | egass@caribline.com |
| Comments: | Delighted that you've put up so much useful information.
Erek |
| Name: | galopas |
| Location: | canandaigua ny |
| E-mail address: | none |
| Homepage URL: | http://none |
| Comments: | dear friend
would you know by chance how to make ogham wisdom sticks. I have a small gift shop and several customers have requested this item. if you have any typs on thest divination sticks pleas post on your sight sincerley Galopas ps- sorry fo the lack of emale my computer crashed and i was not able to salvige my emale acount |
| Name: | Wendy Slocum |
| Location: | Southern Ireland |
| E-mail address: | ireland@thefarrgroup.com |
| Comments: | I have learnt a lot from your very informative website, thank you. I have found a stone (gravestone?) in a remote field with what appears to be Ogham script down one side. THere are many fallen standing stones, portals etc. in the immediate area. An ancient graveyard is in the vicinity. There is also a stone nearby with cup marks. What could the connection be, if any?
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| Name: | M Anderton |
| Location: | Nr Birmingham England |
| E-mail address: | manderto@netcomuk.co.uk |
| Comments: | I am making some art around non-verbal languages. Have just learnt of Ogham. Not read much yet. I assume it was never oral?
I want to write in Ogham LANGUAGE IS A PLACE I note it needs to be in old Irish gaelic first...any idea how I might achieve my aim? Thanks. |
| Name: | karan |
| Location: | IL.united states |
| E-mail address: | blackarts1956@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | Thank you so much. Have been looking for a site that could give some insight on this.Again Thank You and will be seeing you .
karan |
| Name: | Carmen E G |
| Location: | Celtic England & America |
| E-mail address: | CelticaBooksUK@Hotmail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://www.storesebay.com/Celticabooksandmusic |
| Comments: | Thank you so very much for taking the time to create
this fantastic website! I have been researching ancient mysteries/languages for many years, and was pleasantly surprised by your Ogham Studies. (The pronunciation chart is superb!) The added info will be a great help while working on my historical novel. Wishing you the very best! Carmen :) |
| Name: | John Hely |
| Location: | Dublin and PA, USA |
| E-mail address: | jbhealy@enter.net |
| Comments: | Or, in Ireland. healyjb@eircom.net
Interesting and nicely done. school-children in Ireland should all see it. I was looking for the Lord's Prayer in different languages, and , lo and behold, there it is in Ogham ! You can't beat Google ! JBH. |
| Name: | John Healy |
| Location: | Ireland and PA USA |
| E-mail address: | healyjb@eircom.net |
| Comments: | and jbhealy@enter.net (when in USA)
Sorry, I should have said "in the Hail Mary" and I am sure you wrote it yourself ! An original ogham version of one of the well-known prayers would be hugely interesting. sorry for error. John Healy |
| Name: | chris matthews |
| Location: | AZ |
| E-mail address: | norcalamatt@msn.com |
| Comments: | I was wondering if you could translate the old irish order of "Red Branch" into ogham.
[ Nope. (See first post, above) - Lyberty ] |
| Name: | Anthony Atkins |
| Location: | South Dakota |
| E-mail address: | CAQB13@aol.com |
| Comments: | love the sight, i would like to know what books i can get on this language to learn more. can get them at any book store or will i have to go to a celtic shop, any help would be appreciated.
thank you
[Do you mean you want to learn Irish? -Liberty] |
| Name: | Ventil |
| Location: | Bratislava, Slovakia, EU |
| E-mail address: | ventil@mikrovlnka.sk |
| Homepage URL: | http://xhaven.net/ventil/ |
| Comments: | Prefect site. Much more than I first expected. Once I will have something this big on my own. Still trying to fill it up. It's so much about everything.
But this is realy good one. I likeit so, simple, nice, fast... Regards to all that are into nature... in some way. Keep the Oak growing so it can't be torn down by winds that blow against... |
| Name: | Haesel Cornus |
| Location: | Ee, the Netherlands |
| E-mail address: | - |
| Comments: | Really nice webpage!
The information of this page was very helpful to me thankyou! |
| Name: | Sven Jansson |
| Location: | Uppsala Sweden |
| E-mail address: | betan@mail.com |
| Comments: | I have been watching all about the script of Ogham at a long time and I found that the letters of the famous stone in the eastpart of Sweden called "The Smokey-stone" have somthing in its back that seems to be like characters of ogham. Also the swasticos on the toppside can be translated by the alphabet of ogham.
I tryed to translate by using tilting of the crossing lines in the swasticos just so it is presenteded in the form of the last one.There you can see how an half waved circle are pointed in the sunway. I find tree old names of the godness of nordmens and also names of anicient Irish roulers. In the rest of the stone are that the story of an king of Reigoteri,(Tjoderic the great,who was living at the year of 495 e.kr and also have rouled a´big part of the roman church. I can say that:The runic characters presented on this stone reminds of some Oghamletters. If anybody are interested by my translating so can I send it by mail in the form of doc file. Are verry pleased of connection to sientists about likely things. Best regards Mr.Sven Jansson Betgatan 61 754 49 Uppsala Sweden Phone: +46(0)18-25 25 87 +46(0)18-0739034632 |
| Name: | Wil Rhys-Davies |
| Location: | Snowmass Colorado |
| E-mail address: | zunani2001@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | A most informative and interesting site.Being from Wales (Cymru)I found the information igniting,as to,wanting to learn more of the ancient celts.Thank you for an unsuspecting awakening of a new journey.
Always welcoming new mail on a variety on topics and comments. Dioch, Wil |
| Name: | waway |
| Location: | philippines |
| E-mail address: | wawayska@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://www.enigmata.tk |
| Comments: | yeah, an interesting web. i am very intersested to learn and study about symbols. two ago, i am engaged in engraving symbols in a clay matrials.i am a member of a Talaandig tribe one of the tribes in the philippines. ill come back soon...thanks. |
| Name: | christopher ab alun |
| Location: | cymru |
| E-mail address: | eenmuisineenmolen@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | in reply to stephen c grant-davies, the stone doesn't look to me like ogham, but does seem to be some corrupted form of scandic, ie brythonnic words written with a scandinavian alphabet...i am currently trying out a few translation models and will let you know on this message board as soon as i have something |
| Name: | Mab y Glaw |
| Location: | Cymru |
| E-mail address: | eenmuisineenmolen@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | pertaining to the 'ogham' inscription posted with a request for translation - the characters don't appear to be ogham, but do bear a striking resemblance to scandinavian runes...if the inscription is scandic, i will attempt a translation but it may take a little more time, however, if the words are brythonnic i should be able to sketch out a possible sentance |
| Name: | Mab y Glaw |
| Location: | Cymru |
| E-mail address: | eenmuisineenmolen[nospam]@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | I have found a possible translation for Stephen C's stone inscription. The characters appear to be Scandinavian, and the language would seem to be a dialect of Brythonic... It would seem to read 'Llw o ei oll ng llngyoi woy 1, 3, 2, 2'...which, if accurate, could be strikingly poetic, and can be interpreted as 'the colour of their lot in the boats in 1322', although the 'woy' is circumstantial as the stone is corrupt over it's middle character. |
| Name: | Ceridwen |
| Location: | Switzerland, italian side |
| E-mail address: | bluluna@excite.com |
| Comments: | very interesting...
grazie per un sito cosi' bello!! siate benedetti Ceridwen [ Prego! -Liberty ] |
| Name: | Poppylyn |
| Location: | Northumberland |
| E-mail address: | poppy2012@hotmail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://groups.msn.com/SpiralCentre |
| Comments: | Wonder full pages and new insights gained as to my origins, beliefs and spirituality.
I shall study further and if any one wishes to add me to their MSN messenger to chat please do. |
| Name: | Samuel |
| Location: | USA |
| E-mail address: | samuelehathaway@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://www.freewebs.com/christopagan |
| Comments: | wonderfull site with the answers to many of the questions that my friends and I had.
[Glad it helped... but doen't anyone use proper capitalization of sentences anymore? :-) - Liberty ] |
| Name: | Martin Mehlhorn |
| Location: | Ireland |
| E-mail address: | martinppmehlhorn@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | origionaly i was looking to translate my daughters name... Nicole into ogham which i still havn't managed to do but ogham and its history has hit a cord... very interesting site... any help with the translation would be great thanks...
[ Well, there's an Irish name "NICOL", but that is a male name... So I guess it would just be "NICOLE"! Pretty easy, eh? Or you could get the original Greek meaning of the name, then try to translate it (the meaning) to Irish . . . Everybody: check out this list of Irish names (see bottom of page). -Lyberty |
| Name: | Ciáran o hÉarcáin |
| Location: | Derry, ireland |
| E-mail address: | dianbobobalde@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | alrite hi... i was just wonderin d u c if ye want d change ur name into Ogham do ye not just put all the letters d gether? [Yes, transcriptions usually look like (for example) QUNAGUSOSMAQIMUCOIF ("Cunagusos, son of the swineherd F...") - Liberty] |
| Name: | Cameron McCormick |
| Comments: | Your Ogham Stone website is very well done and informative. I have a
question however. I was looking for the translation of the word
"perserverence" into that language but through your site I have not seen
anything that could be used as a "v". Can you help me or give me a little
direction?
Thank you, Cameron McCormick |
| Name: | Liberty Miller (site author) |
| Homepage URL: | http://ogham.lyberty.com |
| Comments: | I'm going to make an exception and try to answer Cameron's question: it might be useful to other visitors to the board.... -Liberty Note that you can try http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/translation/ for translation requests. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cameron- Well, in Irish, BH makes a "v" sound. For example, the Irish name SIOBHAN is pronounced "Shivawn" , and BÉIBHINN is pronounce "Bevin". MH is also a "vee" sound when it occurs at the end of a word: SOLAMH ; pronounced "Solav" ALMHA ; pronounced "Alva" FE at the end of a word is "vah" Or you could go with buanseasmhacht [ beayn-hassooaght] (endurance, perseverance, stability) or [ beayn-hassooagh ] (durable, imperishable, perseverant) --- (The following aren't Irish, but they're close!] buanseasmhacht trí mhí-ádh = Perseverance through bad fortune buanseasmhacht trí mhífhortún = Perseverance through misfortune --- Hope that helps, Liberty |
| Name: | Samantha Pieterse |
| Location: | Dublin |
| E-mail address: | {archived} |
| Comments: | I am very interested in the ogham dialect. I would like to know what the word "balance"my name, "Samantha" and my zodiac name, "Gemini" would look like in ogham and their name is. I would be most appreciative!
thank you |
| Name: | Jane Richards |
| Location: | Heppner, Oregon |
| E-mail address: | {archived} |
| Homepage URL: | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egyptbeyond/ |
| Comments: | I would like to know if there has been any attempts at translating the 'designs'[or perhaps 'glyphs'] of the more ancient tombs, such as those of Loughcrew and especially Newgrange....?
Jane |
| Name: | Shawn Byerly |
| E-mail address: | {archived} |
| Homepage URL: | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DRUIDSOFTHEGREATRITE/ |
| Comments: | This site is a great blessing on any druid and i hope it never goes away,i just wish the magic workings of the ogham was on here. |
| Name: | Zackery Manley |
| Location: | St.Charles, Missouri |
| E-mail address: | {archived} |
| Comments: | Ive heard that a palm facing foward on an Irish family crest has some sort of Ogham meaning. Maybe thats an absurd Question but if anyone knows what that symbol might mean I would love to hear from you. thanks |
| Name: | Jamie Byrnes |
| Location: | Worcester, MA USA |
| E-mail address: | {archived} |
| Comments: | Very interesting site. Answered a lot of my questions and curiosities. Thanks.
[Tá fáilte romhat. -Liberty] |
| Name: | Barry Sullivan |
| Location: | America |
| E-mail address: | {archived} |
| Comments: | Excellent site....great for learning and passing on the rich history to family and friends. Thanks very much for all your work.
Slainte & Sonas |
| Name: | "Oliver" (via email to lyberty.com) |
| Location: | U.K. |
| Homepage URL: | http://www.sacredbrigantia.com |
| Comments: | Beltane at Thornborough Henge 2005
Celebrate the ancient festival of Beltane at one of Britain's most important prehistoric sacred sites. Sunday May 1st 2005. Ceremony begins at 1.00 pm in the central Henge. Everyone welcome! For more details, including directions and parking, please visit: http://www.sacredbrigantia.com Following the success of last years Beltane ceremony at Thornborough Henge we have been given permission to do it all over again. Special reference was made to the fact that last year we left absolutely no litter behind, so well done everybody. In 2004 I asked people to dress-up for the event, and top prize had to go to the guy who came as a Druidic Knight in full battle dress: This year, can anyone top that? My additional request is for anyone who is noisily musical to bring their drums, pipes, didgeridoos or spoons to the event. Last years ceremony had a distinctly bovine theme, featuring as it did, a pantomime cow being chased between two fires (like what they used to do with real cows). This year, following the recent discovery of the ritual burial of four horses near to Thornborough Henge (dating from Celtic times) the ceremony will have a more equestrian (that's a posh word for 'horsey') theme. We are starting a little bit earlier this year, so after the ceremony if anybody wants to do their own thing, feel free: Whatever you think should go on in a Henge at Beltane (as long as it doesn't involve digging holes). I want Beltane at Thornborough to be an event, like last year, where people come to make something happen, not just to watch something happen. In that spirit, if anyone has any suggestions, please email me (see site). See you all on May 1st. Oliver |
| Name: | Patrick Flaherty |
| Location: | Ontario, Canada |
| E-mail address: | {archived} |
| Comments: | What a wonderful site! The Irish are my passion! Regards... Pádraig O'flaithbheartach
( Patrick Flaherty ) |
| Name: | Patrick Hogan |
| Location: | Melbourne (Irish decent) |
| E-mail address: | {archived} |
| Comments: | Great web site. Plan to view several examples in Ireland this June. So sad that some of the examples in Ireland are weathering and exposed to the elements... |
| Name: | teresa reasor |
| Location: | Kentucky |
| E-mail address: | {archived} |
| Comments: | I found the information on your site very helpful for research I am doing for a book.
Were there ever any examples of Ogham found in Scotland?
[Yes. -Liberty] |
| Name: | Jolene |
| Location: | Delaware |
| E-mail address: | {invalid address} |
| Comments: | my daughter's name is rowan. i would like to find out the ogham speling. my question.. just use "luis" (2nd symbol) to signify her or not...please answer this is very important [Sure, you can use Luis. Why not? But it would be a somewhat "coded" reference: if I was to see her name symbol, I would first think her name was Lywees, or started with an "L", before I would think that her name was Rowan. (So it's a slightly secret reference.) Regards, Liberty] |
| Name: | jolene |
| Location: | an chead stat |
| E-mail address: | johnjolduece |
| Comments: | thank you for your response. i have found your site to be very interesting. i thought gaelic was hard! i know that rowan is "ruan" in irish gaelic and "caorann" in scottish gaelic..or at least i think it is from my research. from what little a i have actually been able to surmise of ogham, i didn't get the impression that folks were signing thier names. i am researching my daughter's name back to it's earliest form in order to 1. provide her with the info and 2. to have her name symbol carved into a rowan tree that we have. this may sound trivial, but it is of great importance for us. i am sorry, but i am still a bit unclear as to if it would be appropriate to use "luis" or not. is is not a symbol for the rowan moon, as well as the tree, and also meaning protection? or is it just simply th letter "L"? i though i kind of got the fact that the druids were somewhat coded in their writings, hence some or the translation issues...i thank you in advance for helping clear this up...if you have any additional site recommendations or suggestions to help me gain a better understanding, i would be grateful. |
| Name: | jolene |
| Location: | an chead stat |
| E-mail address: | {archived} |
| Comments: | thank you for your response. I want to inscribe my daughter rowan's (ruan) name on stone to pass on her family lands. i don not have a proper understanding of ogham (and i though gaelic was hard!) but i want to go to the deepest root. i know you do not do name translations, i am just a bit confused as from my research, "luis" is the symbol for the rowan tree and moon.. you said it was a "coded" reference and somewhat secret..is there not a part of ogham that is somwhat secret? i see a relation to hebrew, and there are "secrets" in word symbols and meanings. i am getting stuck because i just don't get this. i will be carving stone..i'm thinking the shorter the better. i want to use archaic..strictly symbols..not, me inigena ruan. i am not trying to be a ogham tourist, but this seems the right way to denote hers as hers. thank you in advance for your response. |
| Name: | Carl Bjork |
| Location: | California |
| E-mail address: | {archived} |
| Homepage URL: | http://home.comcast.net/~carlbjork/ |
| Comments: | There are many petroglyphs that appear to be "ogham" in California but again, did the Irish visit the America's before Columbus? I need a contact that may read or translate the very old Irish. Any help is most appreciated.
Please visit my web site: http://home.comcast.net/~carlbjork/ Carl |
| Name: | Irene |
| Location: | Kentucky |
| E-mail address: | {archived} |
| Comments: | I am trying to locate more information on the sacred meanings of trees; a few of the links on the site seem to be broken or non-existent. I find myself repeatedly in the position of having to explain why certain trees should not be cut. Any info would be helpful. Also, I need some sources on (and I'm sure to foul up the spelling) Sgathiach, the Queen who taught Cuchulain. I have found very few. Thanks. |
| Name: | pete |
| Location: | macclesfield |
| E-mail address: | {archived} |
| Homepage URL: | http://Care2.dom |
| Comments: | wonderfull work...
I do not as yet understand the end piller of information is this contacts you are making? love n peace |
| Name: | Anna |
| E-mail address: | {archived} |
| Comments: | Hello There,
Do you have any ideas how I can find the Irish Celtic translation of: Create and Honour and strength and faith, hope and love I would like to see it in the celtic script. Not sure if you know where I can start but your help would be most appreciated. Thankyou Anna Ziukelis |
| Name: | Heather |
| Location: | Chicago |
| E-mail address: | {archived} |
| Comments: | I have a hand drawn copy of an ogham symbol for Sonas-Happiness, I am trying to find a true copy of what it looks like for tattooing purposes. I was wondering if there was any chance you might have this or access to it.
Any help would be much appreciated! Thank you Heather |
| Name: | juan pablo |
| Location: | valparaiso,chile |
| E-mail address: | archived |
| Comments: | lo unico q kiero es q si me puden dar pajinas en donde salga todo lo referido al ogham en las piedras o como alfabeto por favor gracias attm jp |
| Name: | Jaime |
| Location: | Canada |
| E-mail address: | archived |
| Comments: | I was just wondering if you know of a website where I could find out what my name would look like written in Ogham. |
| Name: | Lirit |
| Location: | Central New York |
| E-mail address: | archived |
| Comments: | As a current student of the Irish language, I plan on using this material for some short messages on cards, maybe plaques. Love you pages, Slan Lirit |
| Name: | kelwyn williams |
| Location: | gloucester england |
| E-mail address: | archived |
| Comments: | Do you know anything about the sacaranus stone (ogham/latin script) in St Thomas's Church, St Dogmaels?
I'd appreciate any help you can give. [Sorry, I don't. How about you dear visitor? Kelwyn; are you sure you're spelling "sacaranus" right? -Liberty] |
| Name: | flo |
| Location: | cymru/wales |
| E-mail address: | archived |
| Comments: | A lovely site.
A couple of comments for the moment (still more to look at): you say that ogham stones are also found in England (Wales & Cornwall) - Wales/Cymru isn't in England it's in Britain/U.K, beside and to the west of England! And did you know that in welsh zig zag is igam ogam; I like the fact that ogam is a word that is still used.
John Sharkey (Celtic Mysteries) has written else where about Ogham and Colin & Liz Murray produced a beautiful little book: The Celtic Tree Oracle - a system of divination.
[ Flo- Thanks for the reminder about Wales; that's something I should have clarified years ago. And nice tidbit about "igam ogam"! Regards, Liberty ] |
| Name: | Allison |
| Location: | Canada |
| E-mail address: | archived |
| Comments: | Thanks for the great information but I have a few questions. I don't quite understand if the ogham used here can be translated by using the corresponding letters in gaelic words. Any information you could provide would be wonderful.
Thanks so much,
Allison [Allison- The translation process is a bit difficult, and subject to debate. See for example the work done by Jost Gippert; for example Ogam Inscriptions... - Liberty ] |
| Name: | Tina Graham |
| Location: | Monaghan |
| Comments: | (no comment) |
| Name: | Kallie |
| Location: | Bandon, co. Cork. ireland |
| E-mail address: | archived |
| Comments: | To whom It may concern,
Ive been intrested and studying mythology for a long time now and have come to some conclusions. Ogham and standing stones have been placed in certain parts of the earth for a specific reason. oghams are used as grave markers but also the granite that these stones contain minute traces of uranium that emits radon gases & energy. this energy emittance has something to do with the ley or energy lines of the earth. They were placed with specific reasons in mind & I am slightly miffed at the moment cause the university of Cork have Ogham stones hanging on their walls. This Friday 9th sept 2005, I am going to ask a professor in charge some questions to see what mysteries I can uncover and as to whether or not these beautiful carved stones can be replaced in their natural envirionment. looking foward to replies on this subject. there are many mysteries to be revealed and with help from others this Earth of ours may become a paradise. cheers kal. |
| Name: | Jack McCullough |
| Location: | Snohomish, Washington USA |
| E-mail address: | jack98133.nospam@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | Thank you for your excellent and well researhed site.
I enjoy the study of ancient writings and was pleased to find a simple book on the Ogham symbols. Now, I'm hooked and you have enhanced my thirst for enlightenment. I devised a method to help memorize the symbols. If you will remember this, you have the idea. "Be Her Mother Always" The first letter of each symbol type. All of the vowels are through lines, so thats easy. Then make a sentence out of the remaining letters. ie. Beth Let Friends See Now - How Druids Taught Celtic Queens. I'll leave the last five (M G Ng Z R) up to someone more gifted than I. Anyway it took ten minutes to memorize all 20. Hope this helps someone. Thanks again, respectfully Jack |
| Name: | Chris ab Alun |
| Location: | Cymru |
| E-mail address: | eenmuisineenmolen-nospam@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | CAN ANYBODY HELP ME?! I am trying to either find or work out an adaptation of Ogham that can be used to write modern Welsh. Obviously rejecting the latter additions of characters which do not fit into the Ogham pattern, and mutating the Irish 'q' to a 'p', but there are two vowels which aren't represented 'y' and 'w'. Because of 'y's behaviour in modern Welsh it is difficult to improvise phonetic equivalents. Does anyone know of an adaptation to include these lost vowels? Or can anyone help me in adapting the system so that Ogham can be used for modern Welsh? I would be very happy to hear from anyone who has thoughts on this matter! |
| Name: | shep |
| Location: | norwich |
| E-mail address: | {archived} |
| Comments: | Lovely site, most inspireing , have already had my name tattoed in ogham and it looks sweet , thank you very much and goodluck , shep |
| Name: | Tom Clemence |
| Location: | USA |
| E-mail address: | tlckayak@comcast.net |
| Comments: | Nice site! I've been fascinated by the script since my visit to Ireland this past summer. A quick question for you, I saw in some shops really nice framed paper with ogham script on it speeling out a word like "hapiness" or "eternity"...I should have bought a couple while there, but I've looked on the web a bit with no luck. Any ideas about where I might be able to get ogham gifts on line? Thanks for your time...keep up the good work on the site, very nice! :)
Tom |
| Name: | Benjamin |
| Location: | Texas |
| E-mail address: | e-mail@benjaminbruce.us |
| Homepage URL: | http://www.hello-oklahoma.com |
| Comments: | I noticed that the Ogham writing at the top of the homepage is just a transliteration of "Ogham Stone" in English. I think it'd be neat if someone could translate that into Gaelic, and then y'all could put the Gaelic words at the top (written in Ogham, of course!).
Thanks for the great site. -Benjamin |
| Name: | Sean Hagerty |
| E-mail address: | pooka451@yhaoo.com |
| Comments: | I would like to translate the names of myself and my family into ogam, and you said to first translate into celtic/gailic, are there and sites you have found accurate, what would you sugest as the best route to do this as it will be for a tatoo and i definatly want it correct. |
| Name: | Gary Hughes |
| Location: | Sacramento, CA. |
| E-mail address: | {archived} |
| Comments: | I was wondering if I have a word that I want written....can you guide me in the right direction to see what it looks like? |
| Name: | sonia dunkinson |
| Location: | arizona, usa |
| E-mail address: | soniac@citlink.net |
| Comments: | You did a wonderful job with your web site...it is very interesting. |
| Name: | Aisling McCarthy |
| E-mail address: | mccarthyaisling@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | i would love to see my name in Ogham I tried to workit out but failed is there an internet site that can convert the spelling of my first name into Ogham characters |
| Name: | Ajing Ajamalleo |
| Location: | Virginia, USA |
| E-mail address: | lady-angelique.nospam@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | I have found this whole site bountiful, beneficial & brilliant!! I am preparing a review of "The White Goddess" by Robert Graves for amazon.com & it has been helpful & educational in many ways.
If anyone can tell me about the "Craobh" via an e-mail page or link... I would appreciate it tremendously! I believe it is a 'branch' of the Ogham according to Dr. Charles Graves & I know that Robert Graves did not always see *eye to eye* with his grandfather or father? Is the "Craobh" older?? For some reason I feel I need to understand what IT means in a more enlightened way?? I have looked at several sites & yours is the best---but, nowhere, can I find this information I am seeking?? Thanks.... Angelique ["Craobh" -definition... Branch. Also bough or offshoot. So it wouldn't be older; just an offshoot. -Liberty ] |
| Name: | Stan McDonald, Ph.D. |
| Location: | Park Forest, IL 60466, USA |
| E-mail address: | {archived} |
| Comments: | I am very involved in the history of our people and enjoy studying your Ogham information and tables. I have used them several times in correspondence, with keys to translation. As one who is involved in our Celtic history and traditions I very much appreciate your contribution. |
| Name: | Olaf Tauchert |
| Location: | Chemnitz (a town in Germany) |
| E-mail address: | pejerreyNOSPAM@peruplaneta.zzn.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://www.pyrena.de |
| Comments: | Thanks for the good overview about ogham-characters. I believe by Celtic gods (Lug, Belenos, Creiddyladh, Sheila na Gig...) and practie Celtic believing. And I'm glad to find websites like your. Maybe you can visit my website.
Light & Love Olaf |
| Name: | Kerri Stimson |
| Location: | Los Angeles, CA |
| E-mail address: | k-nospam-stimson@stewart.com |
| Comments: | Loved your website. Like others, I would like a tattoo of my name. I learned so much from your website and it kindled an interest to learn more. Thanks so much. |
| Name: | Vashti Uth Pisces |
| Location: | Wiley, Colorado |
| E-mail address: | vashit-nospam@brumepath.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://www.brumepath.com |
| Comments: | Your website is lovely, and filled with a wealth of information. Thank you kindly for all the hard work and effort you have gone through to offer this information to the public. I am currently studying Celtic mythos and Ogham, and your site has been very helpful. I especially enjoyed the humor in your guestbook, as so many have asked for translations after you advised them that you were unable to do so in the beginning. LOL Looks like you could make a great living with a translation service website! Many blessings to you and yours! Vashti |
| Name: | Erya Ni Longuth / Parsley Jones |
| Location: | Bryae |
| Comments: | This is the best ogham site I've ever seen. It answers everything i've ever wanted to know about it.
This really answered my questions I had after first seeing ogham at a monastary. Thanks! |
| Name: | Desmond Swords |
| Location: | Dublin |
| E-mail address: | desmondswords-nospam at hotmail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://homepage.mac.com/antallan/oguses.html |
| Comments: | The link for my homepage is not my homepage, but the link to a site which contains a very interestring theory on how the aicmes came to be ordered.
What do you think? |
| Name: | Stephen J. Gillespie |
| Location: | indiana |
| E-mail address: | arabiansrock7[at]aim.com |
| Comments: | Lots of interesting things to read in the comments. Believing the Genesis of Language diversity to have literally occurred in the not so very distant past based on Genesis 11 The observations in the Hebrew alphabet by one writer were of great interest. Alas even our Jewish friend chomsky would possibly be appalled that the Bible had any say about the origins of anything. My current interest is for another Tatoo choosing the Irish Luchair to substitute for my wife's name Joy, (passed on), with the ogham standing between Luchair on either side. Slan. |
| Name: | Adam Shaffer |
| Location: | Orem, Utah |
| E-mail address: | 10325438.nospam[at]uvlink.uvsc.edu |
| Comments: | This is the best site on Ogham I have seen. I would like to ask a very simple question, but it is something I can't find anywhere. Ogham is constantly on stone monuments and the like, but I still havent been able to find out how dates (or numbers at all) are written in ogham. It does not seem possible that so many monuments would be made without dates or mention of when certain events occurred. Please help me find this information. Thank you very much. |
| Name: | Sandy |
| Location: | Harrogate |
| E-mail address: | Sandygunn[at]hotmail.com |
| Comments: | Stmbled across an Ogham stone when holidaying in Ireland. Found your site very informative and readable. Thank You! |
| Name: | Bailey Crowley |
| Location: | Ireland |
| E-mail address: | audi_bitsh[at]nospam.hotmail.com |
| Comments: | Hi there, I want to get a tattoe of either my birthdate or my first name in ogham does anyone know where I can find what the design would be or if anyone has any useful infomation would b much appriciated, thanks
Bailey [Look, if you can't even spell 'tattoo', then you probably shouldn't get one. ;-) Here's some fun Word History: Although the practice of tattooing the body is very old, the English word tattoo is relatively new. The explorer Captain James Cook (who also gave us the word taboo) introduced the word to English speakers in his account of a voyage around the world from 1768 to 1771. Like taboo, tattoo comes from Polynesian languages such as Tahitian and Samoan. The earliest use of the verb tattoo in English is found in an entry for 1769 in Cook's diary. Sailors introduced the custom into Europe from the Pacific societies in which it was practiced, and it has remained associated with sailors, although many landlubbers now get tattoos as well." -Liberty ] |
| Name: | Pat Boren |
| Location: | Texas Panhandle |
| E-mail address: | tex[at]xit.net |
| Comments: | Interesting site, I am not into languages but do hunt Indian artifacts. This area and to the N and West is rich in early habitation. In the Kenton OK and Black Mesa area there is a cave known as the 'mummy' cave. Two mummys were found there many years ago and one is in the museum at Panhandle STate U at Goodwell OK. There is another cave located in 'Picture Canyon" that has Ogham writing across the front and sides covering an area about 15-18 ft. The wall of the canyon is covered in beautiful pictographs. A horse is one of the most beautiful, life sized. There are many,many dinasour fossils, tracks etc. Also human tracks both barefooted and shod, men , women and children. In Picture Canyon there is a small cave that is a line of Ogham letters showing where the Soltice can be observed. I think there are a lot of people who gather there in Sept. I read the comment from the man who found a stone in Calif just wondered if any knew of the writing out this way. Pat 7/11.06 |
| Name: | Wm seán Glen |
| Location: | Seattle |
| E-mail address: | william.s.glen[at]boeing-dot-com |
| Comments: | I'm impressed! |
| Name: | EJ |
| Location: | Atlanta, GA |
| E-mail address: | edwilk[at]hotmail-dot-com |
| Homepage URL: | http://cobrasvt.com |
| Comments: | Stumbed on the site coming from some other site. Looked interesting so I gave it a read. Well written and very interesting. I love learing something new every day and this def filled the bill. Thanks for taking the time to put it on the WWW. Keep up the good work.
Regards, EJ |
| Name: | Angelesa Ward |
| Location: | Fairbanks, Alaska |
| E-mail address: | mysgydid[at]yahoo-dot-com |
| Comments: | I'm so glad I found your site, I've been kicking around the idea for a tattoo for awhile of my first name in Ogham on the inside of my wrist and then knotwork around my wrist, but wanted to get a second opinion on my interpretation of the letters before I get ink set to skin. I've posted a copy of a picture I've mocked up on my MySpace page. It was created in Microsoft Word, going from bottom to top in the old style, as opposed to left to right. Name is "Angelesa" and I've put all as single letters with the exception of "ng". Angelesa is I believe of Greek origin, but there IS a street in Dublin by the same name, so it may corrolate over. Please, if you have time, take a peek at my myspace page and click on pictures, I'll put it in there. An email would be greatly appreciated, and thank you SO much in advance for your time and input.
Angelesa Ward |
| Name: | Rebecca |
| Location: | Indiana |
| E-mail address: | bibbles30@mindspring..com |
| Comments: | If you don't mind, I'd like to use some of your data for a class at Indiana University at Bloomington titled "Handwriting on the Walls." I will of course source you and all that, but you requested that we ask permission at the bottom of your site. This is for a paper on magical and ancient writings. |
| Name: | Shangrilin |
| Location: | Montreal, Quebec |
| E-mail address: | shangrilin-at-yahoo-dot-com |
| Comments: | A special thank-you for your research and scholarly presentation. I am hooked on to the subject in the true sense of the word.....preparing designs for a series of hooked rugs on Celtic tree theme. |
| Name: | Sarah |
| Location: | Wisconsin |
| E-mail address: | slemmenes@agnesian.com |
| Comments: | I was hoping you could tell me how to write my name in Ogham. THank you so much for your help!! |
| Name: | Sarah |
| Location: | Wisconsin |
| E-mail address: | lemmeness@agnesian.com |
| Comments: | PLease can you tell me how my name "sarah" is written in Ogham. Thank you for your help!!! |
| Name: | chloe |
| Location: | cork |
| E-mail address: | ? |
| Comments: | hi mum, dad and lauryn. just want to say hi to you all and my family and friends. love from chloe |
| Name: | James |
| Location: | U.S. |
| E-mail address: | shinigamishogun-at-yahoo-dotcom |
| Comments: | Very nice. I learned a lot. Slainte. |
| Name: | Tamara Friedman |
| Location: | Las Vegas, Nevada |
| E-mail address: | sim3dogs.DONOTSPAM@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | I have just become aware of the Ogham symbols, but I've known them before I think if that makes sense.....one in particular....does anyone know of someone who could help me decipher the symbol?
[ Here it is: |
| Name: | Erin |
| Location: | PA |
| E-mail address: | erinshumac@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | I am confused about the vowels: A, E, I , O, U.....is there times where you use the dots as opposed to the slashes? Also, there are combos like "ea" would I use that symbol for a word with "ea" in the middle of it, or it that a specific sound? If you consider this a translating question, please at least explain the vowel stuff.
thanks a lot ERIN |
| Name: | Chris Palmer |
| Location: | Lloegr |
| E-mail address: | chrispalmer@geocities.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://chrispalmer.topcities.com |
| Comments: | This is a fantastic website on Ogham stones, I tried to find an ogham stone while on holiday in Kernow, but sadly I couldn't find it. Did manage to find some Stone circles though :)
Diolch yn fawr for all the hard work you've done on this website on ogham stones, I've bookmarked it for later, hwyl, Chris |
| Name: | Rowena |
| Location: | Ramsey Isle Of Man |
| E-mail address: | tik@manx.net |
| Comments: | Your wed-site is inspiring.I am a total newcomer, but would love to learn more. The recent discovery (from a local buriel site dig) of a stone with ogham text has caused quite a stir on our little Isle. It is believed on initial viewing that it may be of Scottish origin. I would love to find ogham text in the Manx idiom.
I will be visiting you again, many thanks Rowena |
| Name: | LOUISE DUFFY |
| Location: | MY HOUSE |
| E-mail address: | LOUISE@YAHOO.COM |
| Comments: | IM DOIN A PROJECT ON OGHAM STONES COULD U GIVE ME SOME INFO ON TEM PLEAZ !!!! WB |
| Name: | Lindsey |
| Location: | Seattle, WA |
| E-mail address: | linzh24@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | I have a question... I am trying to Translate my last name into Ogham, Its Doyle. But in all of the alphabets I have found there is no 'Y' Do you know how or where I can figure that out? |
| Name: | shilo |
| Location: | us |
| E-mail address: | photojunky at peoplepc.com |
| Comments: | i am currently studying ogham and the gaelic language any help anyone can give me will be greatly appreciated want to pass info to my children, my family originated in ireland THANKS SO MUCH |
| Name: | Kitty |
| Location: | Tucson, AZ |
| E-mail address: | KittyKats8@msn.com |
| Comments: | My sister and I want to have our birthdates tattooed in irish/gaelic. Do you know of a website where i can find the information translated from English? Example: March 16, 1960, and March 18, 1959. We are the same age for 2 days each year. I need to find out how these dates would look in irish/gaelic. Help if you can. Many thanks... |
| Name: | Jayde |
| Location: | US |
| E-mail address: | greeneyez_4_u ~at~yahoo - com |
| Comments: | I have yet to find another site such as this. Currently I'm seeking true translations from the English language to the Ogham written language. So far it has taken me four days and I'm still having a hard time finding anything completely useful.
I was hoping to get a little help with this, if at all possible. The idea is doing a full torso piece (tattoo) for my family; passed and present. IF there is anyway someone could guide me in the right direction, or better send me some clues to figuring out how to do this that would be great. I don't want the work done for me, just a little help. Thank You for adding a much more simplistic explanation of Ogham. Jayde |
| Name: | Paul Anglim |
| Location: | Ireland |
| E-mail address: | jpanglim at eircom dot net |
| Comments: | I was thinking of getting a tattoo of my name in ogham on my forearm.Is there any chance you could give me an example of what my full name which is John Paul translated into Irish as Sean Pol would look like in ogham.
Thanks Paul |
| Name: | Patricia Ann Hamm-House-Marshall |
| Location: | Little Rock,Arkansas |
| E-mail address: | (hidden) |
| Comments: | Can you believe that black people here in the state of arkansas are trying to claim that they are the ones who wrote ogham. they are the ones that are trying to claim and area that has ogham stones on it that I have found. They have dug in the Knighted Daughters of Tabor which was founded in England. And scattered the bones from graves which were white to claim the names of white people. I am very upset and I know who the families are that did this. |
| Name: | Germany Anthem |
| Location: | gioooo |
| E-mail address: | ghddfh |
| Comments: | hi |
| Name: | Keoma McCaffrey |
| E-mail address: | theshopgoddess@yahoo.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://www.myspace.com/184279012 |
| Comments: | Your page is wonderful! I had found information before on Ogham, but never the pronunciations. Thank you! Glad to know I was not slaughtering them to much! What I did find at one time was fortunes to go with them, or rather meanings. Would you happen to know them as well? :) I am hoping you would have more information for me to soak up. Again, your page is fantastic and I will be back often! Thank you for your wealth of information!
Keoma |
| Name: | Ruth |
| Location: | Australia |
| E-mail address: | rui734@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | After years fo research and countless arguments which have become so very boring, hasn't anyone realised yet that no one really knows the REAL truth about the celts or the Druids? Has anyone figured that out yet? It pains me to constantly come up with this snobery about who is more correct that some one else, who is more worthy than someone else, or even now who has more right than someone else cause they claim heritage. Can't we just admit that we DONT KNOW FOR SURE and just get on loving what we do know. All this negative stuff about who is right and who is't takes away the joy and the love we can have about the celts and the celt within. |
| Name: | areida |
| Location: | kilquade, ireland |
| E-mail address: | giveuponboys@gmail.com |
| Comments: | I'm reading a book called "An Acceptable Time." It's about ogham and the druids coming to America. It's by Madelein L'Engle. Try it out. It's fictional, but good. |
| Name: | Gary |
| Location: | Dublin |
| E-mail address: | garymcginty@gmail.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://www.bigbadwolf.ie |
| Comments: | We are working on an animated short film about Irish Wolves.
Water, - spring water and Ocean water features in the script. Can anyone tell me if there is an ogham icon or symbol for well water, spring water, Atlantic water, thanks, Gary |
| Name: | Erica |
| Location: | GA |
| E-mail address: | scifibard hotmail com |
| Comments: | I know that the vast majority of the extant ogham inscriptions are names (X son of Y and similar such things). I also know that by fairly early on in the Medieval period (when many of those inscriptions were made) a number of Irish names had a "P" in them (Patrick, sometimes spelled as Padraig etc. being the most famous example). And yet there is no "P" in the earliest forms of ogham (whenever the last five letters were invented, I sure don't see them on the vast majority of inscriptions). So do you know what the standard medieval practice(s) were for dealing with names or words with "P"s? Did they substitute another letter ("B" is phonetically similar for example) or did they just skip over that consonant, as has been suggested with one of the Pictish ogham inscriptions where "pidarnoin" in Roman letters becomes "eddarrnonn" in Ogham on the same stone. That example was actually my starting point; I wondered if there was Irish precedent for simply skipping the "P" rather than replacing it, or if both techniques were used depending on who did the inscription. |
| Name: | judith |
| Location: | usa |
| E-mail address: | jdillon.at.nycap.rr.com |
| Comments: | Hello. enjoyed your page. spent much time afew years ago comparing various magical, alphabetical systems. When you compare them, you cannot compare shape (form) of symbol, only the meaning the symbol represents. Ogham appeared to be directly related to the Phoenician alphabet and magical offshoots including alchemy..calendar through the sky, the farm year, the soul journey through the underworld. With the exception they hide the second letter (Apollo's?). Some of the scripts from western spain also don't use the beta. which bears out the concept that Oghams came from spain. (I think it was northern iberian from early in the common era. if I remember correctly, there were a few scripts from arcadia). the bird oghams seem much later and refer to the Golden Fleece.
Birch (to use the tree form) is the black-white tree as is Mercury (white, blackening with age, and astrologically represented by cow head of alpha). Ogham skips second symbol, and goes to luis, the quickentree, the third magic including impregnation..think of third finger extended, the merry monthy of march when the seasons quicken (the 3rd rune in norse tradition is the thorn...). In Phoenician, giml (camel) has similar hearty associations. 4th symbol (delta in female form) is where the birth begins, and in male form, belongs to the king (nion being the warriors ash). I personally think the battle of the trees formed because the irish king had to marry the land, and it is the 6th symbol (our honey moon month of june, to use the western calendar) when the king marries. Moving to the 6th (remember, ogham does nt use the second symbol openly), placed nion here. Anyway, the original pattern, when you compare various traditions, show adjustments, probably reflecting the precession of the ecquinoxes and other calendar and social adjustments, but nonethe less are remarkable for their consistency. |
| Name: | Pegan |
| Comments: | Lovely to find your website discussing the Sacred Ogham! I have read crystal and tea in an old family tradition for 26 years using the ancient Ogham. Gaelic is definitely the spiritual, divinational and inseparable foundation of Ogham!The letters in one's birth name, when translated into the trees, is a powerful illumination of one's present quest on this present earth walk. Connecting to the gifts, wisdom and powers of the trees, connects us to the Creator and Mother Earth. It is an ancient belief of many peoples, besides the Irish, that spirit's passed on messages through Crann Critheac,...the whispering leaves. English is a linear, dichotomous language...ho-hum!... learn some Gaelic...unlock a door...see anew...anciently...go sit and listen to your trees in the wind! Maire dia dhuit! Pegan |
| Name: | Broworadiance |
| Location: | Australia |
| E-mail address: | broworadiance@gmail.com |
| Comments: | Good to see a site that has continued through the years of net popularity. I have more experience in reading runes when the entirity of my spiritual life is summed up. However I hear this Ogham now as a whisper on the wind with occasional blasts of ancient wisdom and truth shaking out the dead leaves from my psyche. If I were to be a tree, I would have to choose Oak. In my Ogham book, Duir is symbolic of Oak the mighty protector. My rune book says Oak is linked with Thor. I have felt the energy of might and might of no other since that night when I harvested a branch of the Oak for magical purposes. I have expected to work too quickly with this beautiful wood, yet the opposite has occurred and I am making a snails progress! A good thing in this impatient age!! My wonder with the Ogham could be helped if I knew proper pronounciations. When is practicality ever going to meet spiritual text and join into a handy book?! Ogma I thank you! Blessed be! |
| Name: | Emil Schinkel |
| Location: | Kilpipe Upper Aughrim, Tinahely Co, Wicklow Rep. of Ireland |
| E-mail address: | emil@emilschinkelart.com |
| Homepage URL: | http://www.emilschinkelart.com |
| Comments: | I love your very interesting website.
A few years ago I was commissioned by The Tree Council of Ireland and Coillte to paint an Ogham Stone to be used as an educational poster explaining the Ogham alphabet. Out of this assignment grew a great interest in these ancient monuments. Sofar I painted a number of Ogham-standing Stones of Irish origin, if You are interested You can visit my website and see for yourself. My website : www.emilschinkelart.com Greetings, Emil Schinkel |
| Name: | Mags |
| Location: | Ireland |
| E-mail address: | mfoconno@tcd.ie |
| Comments: | Hi, I'm going to Trinity University in Ireland, and I'm planning to do a research paper on Ogham. I've heard of some more unusual uses of ogham, and was wondering if anyone knew of some examples of these. For instance I've heard that once a case was brought before the courts in Ireland, as someone had writin their car regristration in Ogham script. However as yet I havn't found any documentary evidence of this.
Thanks mags |
| Name: | Kenneth |
| E-mail address: | Whitee_1999@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | Love the site, but am sorly too far at a loss to write a theme for a tattoo using the old language. can anyone help one of the old blood? thanks for the time |
| Name: | Sven Jansson |
| Location: | Uppsala Sweden |
| E-mail address: | betan@mail.com |
| Comments: | Is that possible that the old stone down in county "RÖK" a part of the landscape ostrogothaland an litle bit south down Stockholm are showing parts of old ogham style?
I have found out some interesting about that. When I used the codekey of ogham on the different swasticos on top and backsidetop on the stone, many of old Irish cheifs name popped up against old scandinavian names of kings or gods from the Asas. The great translator and well known man Björn Collinder who has translated the hole stone was in thinking about the same as me but did not have the code key so he was not anable to do the transaltion of ogham. I found an story about two men who where swimming against greywahles or greyseals as long the seahorse running over the vaves. I say this: - It was proberly an wellknowed man who did the script on the stone, and he was known in oghamnscripting. I have done an long investegation who takes 10 years to finish and it is on 40 pages with different chiffersolutions in swedish. I are in thinking to translate all this in english and publicate it on the internet. Please tell me if anybody els have the same conclusion about what I´m saying. |
| Name: | JAMES MC CUTCHEON |
| Location: | Dublin,Ireland. |
| E-mail address: | KOOKS@IRISHBROADBAND.NET |
| Comments: | A very interesting and helpful read and now i want to know more. |
| Name: | treena |
| Location: | boston MA |
| E-mail address: | kilbrienmafia@hotmail.com |
| Comments: | although my sense of unbridled genius and originality has been somewhat shaken as i discover that plenty of people also came up with the idea of gettin a tattoo in ogham, im still dying to do it. but cleary am nervous i will get the spelling wrong and as its permanent would love if one of you enlightened scholars could advise me on the correct writing of the place name kilbrien or cill bhrian would be translated. would be very grateful.
love the site |
| Name: | brett deatob |
| Location: | arkansas, usa |
| Comments: | thank you for providing us with this valueable information |
| Name: | Sandra Sherman |
| Location: | Texas/ United Staes |
| E-mail address: | sandra_sherman2001@yahoo.com |
| Comments: | I found your site extremely fascinating! |
| Name: | Talhaern |
| Location: | Ballymote |
| E-mail address: | talhaern@lithos.ie |
| Comments: | It amazes how those who regard the works of Graves as not of sufficiently high standard in terms of academic research then usually go on to create some distinctly wierd interpretations of the symbolism.
This mud-slinging seems to serve no other purpose than the allow the arrogant misinformants to portray their work as somehow superior to that of an Oxford University professor, translator and distinguished poet. [Good point! - Editor] |
| Name: | Valerie McArdle |
| Location: | Coral Gables, Florida ,USA |
| E-mail address: | Touch417@aol.com |
| Comments: | I must be 'dafft' but I bought our family crest from an Irish local shop and cannot figure out some of the symbols--basically, it's colors are red, white and blue: a silver knight's helmut on top orf two red dragon heads with a solid blue thick line from left to right and a red, looks like a solid strands of beads hanging on the bottom of the crest. Can anyone translate the meaning of the symbols for me? Thanks for your help! Now, I don't feel so dafft- because I asked! MVM |
| Name: | Andy |
| Location: | UK |
| E-mail address: | andyblueskyz@aol.com |
| Comments: | I'm am particularly fascinated by the fact that Ogham Stones appear to be the only surviving written record of Pict. As Pict is strongly believed to be a remnant of the original pre-non-indo-european language of Britain I'd like to see more research into deciphering Pictish Ogham inscriptions. |
| Name: | DaveH |
| Location: | UK |
| Comments: | Great site, thanks. Only came across Og[h]am last week and it's been a steep, fascinating learning curve - aided enormously by your work here.
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| Name: | Lindsay O'Connor |
| Location: | New York, USA |
| E-mail address: | lindsayoconnor@clearwire.net |
| Comments: | Great site...after just learning that this language existed today; this site provided the most information needed and was very well described.
Thank you O'Connor |