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| Name | donotelo | |
| URL | http://books.dreambook.com/xriumer/xriumer.html | |
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your site looks greate!
check my dream book too! | |
| DATE | Thursday, July 3rd 2003 - 07:23:34 PM | |
| Name | internet live chat room | |
| URL | http://www.adultnonstop.com | |
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Nice Site !! | |
| DATE | Friday, June 13th 2003 - 02:07:40 PM | |
| Name | Tom Quick (a.k.a Willy the NS M) | |
| Race/Ethnicity | WHITEWHITEWHITEWHITE | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 4 | |
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Hey, what gives? I can't post messages under my login name and password. Let me back in, it's fun. I would post my email address but I don't want junk mail. So respond in yellow like you do sometimes.
===== All you do is post racist cartoons and call people names. RM | |
| DATE | Thursday, June 12th 2003 - 04:20:36 PM | |
| Name | don | |
| City/State/Country | europe | |
| Race/Ethnicity | european | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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wendy you are either a liberal hippie,or a mixed race breed who cant come to terms with her race...whites who want to preserve there race,are not bigots or cowards,whats wrong with keeping your heritage? after all the jews have done it for centurys.
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| DATE | Thursday, June 12th 2003 - 03:50:51 PM | |
| Name | Wendy | |
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Boy, lots of racist bigots signing this guestbook.
Thanks for your site, it's informative, well done, and scholarly. A true breath of fresh air that's much needed on the internet, and of course, it bashes all of those White Power myths and exposes white supremacists for what they really are: Hateful cowards who need to think they are somehow "superior" to everyone else. | |
| DATE | Thursday, June 12th 2003 - 03:18:12 PM | |
| Name | john | |
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Jews are not Native Europeans...neither are the Gypsies...these are immigrants who migrated into Europe......do you honestly think Jesus, had blond hair and blue eyes? Jews are not and never have been white they can refer to themselves as mixed with some European blood...but they are not of European ancestry. Being European is being White… | |
| DATE | Thursday, June 12th 2003 - 11:59:20 AM | |
| Name | Sabino Arana | |
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you have omitted the Basque origins......true native peoples of Europe | |
| DATE | Thursday, June 12th 2003 - 11:47:29 AM | |
| Name | Antares | |
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The mother of Alessandro de Medici wasn't African at all, let alone Black. She was from Collevecchio as her name clearly shows (in Italian 'da' means 'from') and Collevecchio is in Italy, not in Africa! It is a town in the region of Lazio, which was ruled by the Medicis at the time and where any reference to her can easily be traced.
After that, it would be interesting to discover how this pure European, Italian woman became Black, and African... | |
| DATE | Thursday, June 12th 2003 - 09:57:46 AM | |
| Name | benadict | |
| City/State/Country | americas | |
| Race/Ethnicity | euro trash | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 3 | |
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anouther mindless moron,,,we are all mixed?? oh please utter nonsense!! we are not all mixed,,europeans are white,,and nothing else!!! oh and stop banging on about arab genes in spaniards...i repeat look at dark irish,,we are not all mixed!! for the last time! | |
| DATE | Wednesday, June 11th 2003 - 02:33:20 PM | |
| Name | jeff oviatt | |
| jeffoviatt88@yahoo.com | ||
| City/State/Country | california | |
| Race/Ethnicity | german | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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what are you trying to prove?that white seperatists are dumb because we are already a mixed race, ofcourse we are all mixed at some point, but in germany for example the bavarians are more alpinic with darker features, but in the north they are more nordic with lighter features but they are still primarely in the same ethnic group, and just because europeans or aryan people mixed through out the the last hundreds of years doesnt mean we should just say the hell with it and go mix with the rest of the world and destroy our race and identity,look at the persian countries they were at one time an aryan civilization but since they have mixed so much they are brown and are considered arabs is that what people like you want to happen i myself dont want an all white world but i also dont want an all brown world i prefer keeping europe white | |
| DATE | Wednesday, June 11th 2003 - 12:04:40 AM | |
| Name | Quick observation | |
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The "dark" Irish and "dark" Spanish types very likely share the same common ancient Iberian racial stock. The same goes for the "dark" Welsh. There is very little "Arabic" in any of these groups. Blaming "Arabs" for giving them their "dark" looks is pretty silly. They were already dark complexioned hundreds of years before Muhammed was even born. Read Tacitus' description of ancient Iberians and Welsh(Silures). They were so similar he believed them to be of the same racial stock. | |
| DATE | Tuesday, June 10th 2003 - 04:01:03 PM | |
| Name | mark | |
| City/State/Country | chino ca usa | |
| Race/Ethnicity | latino, spanish, mexican | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Do latinos have a percentage of arab blood in there ethinic background, especially those such as from mexico, central america and puerto rico | |
| DATE | Tuesday, June 10th 2003 - 08:51:30 AM | |
| Name | corey | |
| City/State/Country | usa | |
| Race/Ethnicity | white | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 3 | |
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for that mixed race zambo(half native ,half black).just because your bi racial does not mean that italians are,STOP TRYING TO JOIN ITALIANS WITH YOUR PATHETIC LITTLE CAUSE!
we are not all mixed,funny that the people who try to push this are mixed race peoples,,humm i wonder why?? lol! | |
| DATE | Saturday, June 7th 2003 - 02:56:34 PM | |
| Name | alex | |
| jaye2345@bellsouth.net | ||
| City/State/Country | usa | |
| Race/Ethnicity | black/native american | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 4 | |
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Okay, first and for most to the so-called"white-italian", um...With all the racial mixing that has been going on for centuries...rather should I say milleniums, reverse and go back because EVERYBODY CAME FROM EVEYBODY!!! You have forgotten that we are all descendants through Adam and Eve. What the heck do you think Cain did after he killed his brother? He married his sister("BE FRUITFUL AND BECOME MANY)
After the flood,Noah's sons married and created offspring by women from different lands. I believe your comment was so racist. I hate to see the world fall to It's knees all because people like you dwell on which race is purer than the other. | |
| DATE | Saturday, June 7th 2003 - 12:53:59 AM | |
| Name | vito | |
| City/State/Country | america | |
| Race/Ethnicity | white italian and proud | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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italians unite!!!! all people of italian blood stick together. | |
| DATE | Friday, June 6th 2003 - 02:33:47 PM | |
| Name | julio | |
| City/State/Country | usa | |
| Race/Ethnicity | white med | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 4 | |
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i posted this before,but it appears to have vanished.
the word hispanic has become a political term to refer to mixed race south and central americans. there is NO such race as hispanic,,mere politics. mexicans who tend to be a mixtures of native americans(asians),and spaniards(white),refer to themselves as latino or hispanic,this is because they are ashamed of there native heritage,these people are mestizzo,or chicano. you you get full blooded negroes calling themselves latino if they are born in puerto rico,which is mostly mullato. of course this is a pathetic attempt to loose there negroid heritage.latin is a word derived from the roman empire to describe the four romance languages(italian,spanish,french,portuegese,romanian),latins are european,,how about a section that explains this??? that also dispels that mexicans etc are spanish,ignorance must be exposed. | |
| DATE | Friday, June 6th 2003 - 12:20:16 PM | |
| Name | Shakespeare knew jack-squat about Moors | |
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Shakespeare knew about Moors more than a modern encyclopedia?!?!? HAHAHAHAHA!!! Yeah right! He also believed that Cleopatra was "black" and nowadays practically everybody in the world(except afrocentrist MORONS) knows she was a Ptolemaic Greek! Shakespeare was a 16-17th Century Englishman who very likely never saw an actual Moor in his life. Wanna see what most Moors looked like in the Middle Ages? Look at Medieval Spanish manuscripts. You'll find quite a few drawings of them there and most of them didn't look anything like blacks or mulattoes. | |
| DATE | Thursday, June 5th 2003 - 02:25:07 PM | |
| Name | Eugenicist | |
| Race/Ethnicity | white | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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"Mongoloid genes" in Finland reflect origins, not admixture. | |
| DATE | Wednesday, June 4th 2003 - 04:59:04 AM | |
| Name | Thomas Orecchia | |
| thomas.orecchia@dhs.gov | ||
| City/State/Country | Stockton/CA/USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Northern Italian (Piemontese) & Sacilian | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Probably because of my diverse Italian ancestry (i.e., extreme north and south), I have always been intrigued by racial history. I love the works of Gobineau, Rippley, Coone, Baker, Rushton and their contemporaries within the fields of historical physical anthropology.
This sight, I think, helps put into balanced prospective the opposing views the white supremacists (who's ideas, tempered by the realities put forth by this web-sight, I do not altogether dismiss) and those who deny the existence of Race. Kudos to the web sight and to the students who visit it! | |
| DATE | Tuesday, June 3rd 2003 - 08:29:36 AM | |
| Name | Anthony | |
| City/State/Country | Boston, Usa | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Med | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Nordic mythology regarding their so called great civilizations are virtually non-existant, whilst southern european and other med "inferiors" have been and continue to be the most intellectually bright and inventive people on the planet. | |
| DATE | Tuesday, June 3rd 2003 - 03:55:58 AM | |
| Name | Garret Jansen | |
| garret146@netscape.com | ||
| URL | http://thumbnails.gonedone.biz/ | |
| City/State/Country | US | |
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Nice site | |
| DATE | Monday, June 2nd 2003 - 03:00:56 PM | |
| Name | Quinn | |
| City/State/Country | USA | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Sicilians are not mulattos. 98.5% Caucasian and 1.5% Negroid is not a mulatto. Afrikaneer people in South Africa are 6.5% Negroid and many white Southerners have 5% and more negroid ancestry. Sicilians are part of the core Caucasoid race, they are not peripheral members like Dravidians or a mixed race population like Mexico.
If a nordic type calls you a nigger call him a gook or a hun. That's what they called Germans in WW II. | |
| DATE | Monday, June 2nd 2003 - 12:34:33 AM | |
| Name | High School student | |
| City/State/Country | Israel | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Caucaisian Ashkenazi Jew | |
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I'd just wanted to ask - if Ashkenazi Jews are mostly Alpine-Mediterraneans, doesn't it make them Dinarics? And BTW, Coon's site shows that Ashkenazi Jews still have Mediterranean features. So basically, can one say that Ashkenazi Jews are mostly Mediterraneans that over the years mixed with Alpines to become Dinarics, but still have some distinct Mediterranean "look"?
Anyway, my father is an Ashkenazi Jew from Russia and my mother is an Ashkenazi Jew from Romania. While I have dark red-hair (it is getting darker from the day I was born. I was first a blonde, then became light red-haired, and now my hair looks brownish-orange, and I'm only 17), very light skin, ferekels and blue eyes, my sister has light-dark skin, brown eyes and dark hair. How can that be? http://www.legioneuropa.org/Racediv/CSCoon/Papers/p45.htm http://www.legioneuropa.org/Racediv/CSCoon/Papers/p46.htm | |
| DATE | Sunday, June 1st 2003 - 02:03:16 AM | |
| Name | Erwin | |
| City/State/Country | Netherlands | |
| Race/Ethnicity | White | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 4 | |
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During intervening centuries, ancient peoples absorbed invaders, but in essentials quite some of the ancient peoples are much the same today. There are typical ancient faces in Italy, especially in Greece and also in some other countries.
To discuss how pure or how mixed they are seems useless to me. Because I simply don't understand what people are trying to do prove? | |
| DATE | Saturday, May 31st 2003 - 05:15:25 PM | |
| Name | white man | |
| City/State/Country | america | |
| Race/Ethnicity | white italian | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 3 | |
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shut up with your stupid comments,sicilians are not mullato you idiots! does tony soprano look mixed race to you?? no!!
just because your part native american,dont try and join your past by lumping both sides of the family together! in someone elses post you claim that we all come from negroes,,haha been listening to to much rap music,,thats a lie! we dont come from africa,just a black lie to feel good about your selves...enough stupidness,,italians(all italians)are white,and no more about it you morons. | |
| DATE | Friday, May 30th 2003 - 10:25:19 AM | |
| Name | Christopher | |
| chris1@daviscomms.com | ||
| City/State/Country | UK | |
| Race/Ethnicity | other (human) | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 3 | |
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I am also very interested in Anthropology, and in particular human variation. It's fascinating stuff. It is true that there are many wonderful variations and combinations in the world. I too once read Coon, and believe that there have been many far-reaching migrations -for example, why were culturally 'modern' Cro-Magnon type people in Australia long before Europe? Maybe it's because they originated (in the short-term that is) from somewhere much closer to Aus, like SE Asia.
But what are you trying to prove? Why this RACE, RACE, RACE?! It's all a social construct, to put regional (and of course all VERY locally and clinally MIXED) populations into tidy categories - and is biologically COMPLETELY FALSE! Yes any child can tell the difference between a Swede and Nigerian and a Japanese person (as can anyone measuring bones teeth etc.) - BUT SO WHAT?! You're clouding and tainting a fascinating area of study by talking about this rediculous idea of pure races (as if they ever really existed anywhere except in our own minds). You're boiling the study of human diversity, variation, migration etc. into boring and useless categories. To say that Italians are still white (or should we arbitrarily say "caucasoid" because it has a more scientific ring to it), because actually so are Eqyptians, Iraqis, Indians (and maybe even Aborigines?), and are therefore not at all related to Kenyans and (Southern) Sudanese is frankly rediculous!!! Keep up the study - but please drop the rubbish! | |
| DATE | Friday, May 30th 2003 - 08:20:52 AM | |
| Name | Joke | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | ZERO | |
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Jovanni shut up, you are a mongrel. | |
| DATE | Friday, May 30th 2003 - 06:43:38 AM | |
| Name | Jovanni | |
| jmca08@yahoo.com | ||
| City/State/Country | Rochester | |
| Race/Ethnicity | sicilian,native-american,italian, | |
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I would just like to state the obvious and ignorance of my fellow italian and sicilian people.It is really ridiculous that there is so many of us denying our beautiful MIXED heritage.look in the mirror if you are sicilian u will notice we have different featurez of black white and semetic some have strong white genez some have strong black.The afrocentric hair is not only in sicilians but also some southern mainland italianz.There is big lipped sicilians too,my whole family could pass for mulatto.I am the only one who appearz truly caucasion.YOU should have friendz of black white red and brown because your mutt's plain and simple but be proud of it.There was one italian guy on here who wanted more then anything to be acknowledged as a white man i lauphed over that for a long time after eading it.unfortunatlly, the current issue with older italianz is race cause the whites had all the money the better houses the good reputations among the greedy whites you see whith their noses up in the air.If all of u recall the whites treated our great grandparents like trash tehy beat on us they called us niggers threw things at us.There are quite a few whites who still think we are a joke and disgrace for bein in suit's or working for a company not in the mafia.If you think color is based on the location and where the heat is strongest then no offence but u must be blind,there's northern europeans who burn a digusting red color when exspoed to too much sun.italians have a natural gold complexion it go's from light goldish yellow or pale bright white to olive to dark-reddish brown to a dominant black color in sicilians though.(those tones i am talkin about are the what they're born with)Please grow up do not believe every site you see tellin lies about italians because pro-white europeans want all country's of europe to be white folks because they figure it would ruin the northern european image too.Racism is bullshit there's white's called the KKK that have politicians in there pockets and they want u to bring minorities down to nothing.If you have questions concerning this,e-mail me at jmca08@yahoo.com | |
| DATE | Friday, May 30th 2003 - 05:57:03 AM | |
| Name | mbey | |
| Mbey99@yahoo.com | ||
| Race/Ethnicity | Moor | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 4 | |
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the guy october made a great point when he said that the romans ruled the arab world at one point ,in truth they didn't ever conquer the arab penensula.You see those romans are responsible for the present genetic make up of the arabs there are countless arabs of sudan who are black or let me say would be considered black in the U.S like the Tuerag and various other desert dwellers in terms of race these people are black. The admixture of the Macedonian people with the original inhabitant of the middle east as well as roman and other greeks is the reason that many share similarities with southern Europeans.They were not like they are now even 2000 years ago get off the nonsenseThey are nothing more that Mullatoes like Puerto Ricans Mexicans and American blacks(and whites for that matter)simply put amalgamations as most of us are.the angles nor the saxons ever set foot in egypt ..Even the sumerians the original sumerians were black look at the name hammurabi (ham or kham as in the biblical son of Noah "Ham" means black and rabi means master ..Keep in mind the ideals of racism that most of the world practices are fairly new.Those ideas were pushed forth soley to justify slavery in the new Christian world its fairly obvious if one were to look with an open eye(mind) | |
| DATE | Wednesday, May 28th 2003 - 11:51:25 PM | |
| Name | Mbey | |
| Mbey@yahoo.com | ||
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Why is it thatyou all seem to ignore the fact that all races come from the Negro.The oldest skeletal remains found in Europe were about 20,000 years old and they were of black europeans the grimaldi,the negro represents the prototype of all of us the original north africans were black including the egyptians..After countless wars the people are now an amalgamation of various races.. Racism is truly a sickness it prevents you all from seeing the facts.I invite any of you to an open debate..It truly saddens me that you all can't see the facts. | |
| DATE | Wednesday, May 28th 2003 - 11:14:46 PM | |
| Name | Augustin Duron | |
| xin78@hotmail.com | ||
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Excelent source of information, a lot of explanations, links and everything.
Very interesting, clears a lot of shadows. Thank you. | |
| DATE | Thursday, May 22nd 2003 - 03:55:53 PM | |
| Name | Dr. Willem Powell Jr. | |
| Nesb34@aol.com | ||
| City/State/Country | Winston Salem, N.C. | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Native American | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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I am proud to see your astute refutation of the misinformed Mr. Kemp, unfortunately You too have been misinformed. As I tried so hard to explain to Mr. Kemp, the Ancient Society at Menefer(Memphis),Thebes, Abydos,Hierkonpolis, can neither be classified as 'black' nor 'white' in the modern usage. To treat your question quite honestly, the Ptolemais were the only European 'white' family to ascend the throne of Egypt; and this was well after her Dynastic Era. If you do not believe that the Nubians, Kushites, and Abyssinians( Ethiops) were black; then perhaps it would do you well to view the depictions of the Nubian warriors bringing gold to the Pharaoh Kamose. Nevertheless,Egypt was much like the United States is today,an admixture of various peoples. Surely YOU would not classify the United States as a 'white' culture, would You? Egypt, in her storied history, was ruled by Semitic, Hamitic, and Negritic peoples at different phases of her development. | |
| DATE | Friday, May 16th 2003 - 02:59:57 PM | |
| Name | QUINN | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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ABOUT AFRIKANERS (DUTCH SPEAKING WHITE SOUTH AFRICANS)
AFRIKANER PEOPLE ARE BELIEVED TO BE ABOUT 6.5% NON-CAUCASOID IN ANCESTRY ON AVERAGE. THIS NON-CAUCASOID ELEMENT ICLUDES BANTU, HOTTENTOT AND INDONESIAN/MALAY. THIS MEANS THAT AFRIKANERS, WHO ARE GENERALLY NORDIC OR NORDIC/ALPINE LOOKING, ARE MORE NEGROID THAT ANY SOTHERN EUROPEAN PEOPLE AND MOST MIDDLE-EASTERN GROUPS AS WELL. DESPITE THIS NON-CAUCASOID ADMIXTURE THE AFRIKANERS LOOK ABOUT THE SAM AS DUTCH PEOPLE. DURING APARTHEID SOME WHITES WHO HAD NEGROID OR QUASI NEGROID PHENOTYPES WERE RECLASSIFIED AS "COLOURED". THIS MAY BE WHY OVERTLY NEGROID PEOPLE ARE RARE AMONG MODERN DAY AFRIKANERS BUT I DOOBT IT BECAUSE THAT TYPE OF RECLASSIFICATIO WAS RELATIVELY RARE. ABOUT ITALIANS. AS IF THE IDEA OF ITALIANS BEING PART BLACK WASN'T STUPID ENOUGH, NOW PEOPLE ARE CLAIMING THEY'RE PART "ORIENTAL" AS WELL. WHEN EXACTLY WAS ITALY INVADED/COLONIZED OR SETTLED BY EAST ASIANS? THE ONLY REMOTELY ASIAN GROUP TO MAKE THE SCENE IN ITALY WERE THE HUNS WHOSE SHORT LIVED EMPIRE WAS CENTERED IN THURINGIA, GERMANY. A PARTIALLY ITALIAN INDIVIDUAL ON THIS BOARD CLAIMS THAT HIS GRANDMOTHER LOOKED A LITTLE ORIENTAL IN THE EYES. WELL SO DOES MY GRANDMOTHER! NOT ONLY DOES SHE HAVE OBLIQUE ASIAN LOOKIN EYES BUT SHE HAS THE HIGH ROUNDED ORBITAL BONES AND FLATTISH FACE OF ASIAN PEOPLE. HER ANCESTRY IS SWISS GERMAN/WELSH. LOOKING AT THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF HER ANCESTERS IT APPEARS THIS QUASI ASIAN LOOK COMES FROM HER WELSH SIDE BELIVE IT OR NOT. I INHERITED HER EYE SHAPE AND WAS OFTEN TOLD I HAD "JAP EYES" WHEN I WAS A KID. | |
| DATE | Tuesday, May 13th 2003 - 10:24:04 AM | |
| Name | october | |
| City/State/Country | ny | |
| Race/Ethnicity | italian | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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People are so stupid, even if some Europeans have DNA from other races it is so small that it donesn't even matter. Maybe some Scandinavians have mongol ancestors, but I can't tell. I think there women are the most beautiful I've ever seen along with Germanic women also. I think both Northeren and southern Europeans should stop harassing each other. We have a rich history and many cultural acheivments through the ages. I think that all races should have pride in themselves and just stop trying to prove things that never happened. Alot of people can't understand why there is so much controversy over race. For exampe if it was true that the Italians are a bunch of mulattos then that would detach those people from there cultural roots. The same with blacks, if Africa began to fill with whites and mass interbreeding occured then the African people would start to lose there idenity. The people who don't understand this probably never had any culture in the first place. I don't think one race is better than the other and I don't think racial mixing is wrong or lessens a human being. And another thing, the caucasian race is very large and probably has more sub groups than any other race. The caucasian relm spans Europe, North Africa, and the Middle east. The only non caucasian influence I see in the caucasian race is at the fringes. Like some Berbers look very white and middle easteren while some look like they have some Negro traits. In Afganistan some people look very caucasian and some look like they have mongolid influence. These fringes are the only places I can see an argument about race. As for the argument about the Italians and the Greeks, I just don't see the point. I look at alot of these people and they don't look that much different than there ancestors. I know that the arab world had an influence on southeren and eastern europe, but the Greeks and Romans ruled the arab world at one time too and I don't see people saying there mixed with Greeks and Romans. The Phonecians,Romans, and Greeks had large settlements in North africa along with the Berbers who were there for thousands of years, when eventually the wave of islam brought by the arabs assimalated these people these very same people fought there European ancestors in southeren Europe. So what I'm saying is that the lands of the caucasian have always been in the hands of caucasians, just controled by different types at different times. Actually in Iraq there are many different ethnic groups who can trace there roots back to the anceint assyrians and Babylonians. I feel in the Mederteranean realm that cross cultural influence occurred, but it was between people of the same race. And I'm not saying that blacks and mongols didn't mix in there too. But christ not to the degree some of these people say. And another thing Rome conquered almost all of Europe even up into Britian. I think the British look very different than the Italians and I'm sure during this time period that latin peoples from Southern Europe moved into other parts of Europe. So after all this time Most of these people of Europearn nations have there own unique look to them. So were is all of this racial mixture. Another thing most people are completly ignorant about the middle east. They think that it is all comprised of Arabs. While in reality the only middleeasteners who claim to be Arab are the Saudi's. Also all these gripes about the Phonecians, Look at some pictures of the Lebanese. You'll probably find they don't look that much different than us Europeans especially us from the south. Also North Africa, Look at the Tunisians. The blacks in North Africa were immigrants just as they are in europe and america. Another thing alot of the Ghetto culture in America stems from the oppression and biggotry brought on the blacks when they were brought here as slaves. But look at the controversy over the Southeren europeans, there are whole website, movies, and books dedicated to dehumanizing us. Wake up black people racist minds are using you to let us know how less human we are than other whites. The fact is that we are all different and its not a bad thing. Just because a person defends there race dosen't mean they are racist. What the hell kind of life would it be if we were all mixed and had the same culture, be pretty boring huh. | |
| DATE | Tuesday, May 13th 2003 - 08:25:01 AM | |
| Name | Greg ...Again | |
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July 22
"Alessandro de Medici The birth of Alessandro de Medici in 1510 is celebrated on this date. He was an African-Italian ruler during the 16th century. The son of a Black-servant woman named Simonetta da Collavechio and the seventeen-year-old Cardinal Giulio de Medici who later became Pope Clement VII. The young Alessandro’s father, Cardinal Giulio de Medici was the nephew of Lorenzo the Magnificent. Alessandro de Medici was the first Black head of state in the modern western world. On being elected Pope in 1523, Cardinal Giulio was forced to relinquish the lordship of Florence but appointed a regent for his thirteen-year-old son Alessandro who had just been created Duke of Penna Also a title went to a nephew, Ipollito. Even though both were illegitimate births, they were the last of what has come to be referred to as the elder line of the family. Republicanism had grown in Florence under the regent and when Emperor Charles V sacked Rome in 1527, the Florentines took advantage of the situation to install a more democratic form of government and both de Medici and Ipollito fled. When peace was finally made two years later between the Papal and the Imperial factions, Charles V agreed to restore Florence to the Medici. After a siege of eleven months de Medici was brought back as the Emperor's designated head of state. In 1532, the new Florentine constitution declared him hereditary Duke of the republic. With the death of his father, the Pope, in 1534, the exiles attempted to oust the Duke de Medici from Florence. But the Emperor decided to uphold him and in an obvious show of support, gave de Medici his own illegitimate daughter, Margaret of Austria, as his wife. Despite the security Lorenzaccio de Medici, a distant cousin who had ingratiated himself in order to win his confidence assassinated Alessandro de Medici few months after his wedding in 1537. De Medici’s African heritage is rarely if ever mentioned. He wielded great power as the first duke of Florence. He was the patron of some of the leading artists of the era and is one of the two Medici princes whose remains are buried in the famous tomb by Michelangelo." http://www.aaregistry.com/eimage/AlessandroDeMedici.gif ^^^^My Cousin Leeroy was the First Duke of Florence LMFAO! | |
| DATE | Tuesday, May 13th 2003 - 03:08:55 AM | |
| Name | hru | |
| hru98@yahoo.com | ||
| City/State/Country | noname,il/u.s. | |
| Race/Ethnicity | italian/irish | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 4 | |
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I HAVE READ ALL KINDS OF SHIT ABOUT ITALIAN ANCESTRY, ETC.
I HAVEN'T READ MUCH ON BLACK ANCESTRY IN ITALIANS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THIS IS ONLY WHAT I HAVE OBSERVED AND WHAT MY OPINION IS REGARDING MY OWN ITALIAN ANCESTRY I AM HALF IRISH BUT LOOK MORE ITALIAN I BELIEVE ITALIANS AS WELL AS MANY ETHNICITIES ARE MIXED I DOUBT THERE ARE ANY "PURE" RACES OR WHATEVER I CAN TELL MY LOOKING AT PHOTOS OF MY GRANDFATHER THAT HIS FAMILY LOOKS LIKE THEY HAD A MIXTURE OF ARAB AND WHITE BLOOD THEY HAVE BLUE EYES AND LIGHT SKIN BUT WHEN TAN VERY DARK ALMOST ARAB LOOKING MY MOTHER I HAVE SEEN HER LOOK LIKE SHE HAS ORIENTAL FEATURES IN ONE OR TWO PHOTOS I HAVE SEEN OF HER I KNOW LOOKING AT PHOTOS SOUNDS STUPID BUT I BELIEVE AT LEAST LOOKING AT PICTURES OF MY GRANDPARENTS THAT ITALIANS ARE NOT EXACTLY ALL WHITE, HOWEVER THEY DO NOT LOOK OF BLACK DESCENT EITHER. I WOULD SAY ITALIANS ARE OF ROMAN ANCESTRY/WHITE AND ARAB MIXED-POSSIBLY SOME ITALIANS MAY EVEN HAVE ORIENTAL WAY BACK WHEN MIXED IN THEM-PROBABALY A MINORITY MY GRANDMOTHER LOOKS VERY ROMAN LIKE IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT VERY STRAIGHT NOSE AND VERY ROMAN WHITE LIKE FEATURES I AM NOT A HISTORIAN AND I KNOW THIS WHOLE THING PROBABALY SOUNDS DUMB IT ISNT SOMETHING IVE THOUGHT ABOUT IN GREAT DEPTH ONLY OBSERVATION I THINK ITALIANS ARE ROMAN/WHITE AND ARAB -POSSIBLE ORIENTAL PERIOD---THERE COULD BE BLACK I HAVENT SEEN ANY ITALIANS WHO LOOK LIKE THEY ARE DESCENDANDTS OF BLACKS AND I AM GENERALLY A VERY OBSERVANT PERSON I NOTICE THE FEATURES OF DIFFERENT ETHNICITIES THERE MAY BE BLACKS MIXED WITH ITALIAN BUT I HAVE YET TO HAVE MET ANY SO FAR -ARAB/WHITE/ORIENTAL-VERY FEW-NO BLACK PERI0D | |
| DATE | Monday, May 12th 2003 - 09:35:14 PM | |
| Name | dan | |
| mdigiuseppe@juno.com | ||
| City/State/Country | Utica/NY/USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | White/Italian | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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I'll tell you alittle story. I grew up in upstate NY and there was almost no Italians in that area. The area was very poor and ignorant. My family was disliked by almost everyone. I was only 7 years old and I was given the name "Nigger", because they all beleived that Italians were mixed with blacks. As I grew up I tried very hard to identify myself to these people as being white. It did not work I was never really accepted as white and even some girls wouldn't date me because they thought I had to be at least a mulatto. People used to hang nooses in my locker and beat me as often as they could. Instead of hating these people I tried to make them accept me. They eventually let me into there little society, but I was just someone they could pick on. Even more I developed a prejudice towards blacks I never had before. All this time I was very thin and couldn't fight them off. At 17 I joined The Marine Corps, it didn't end there other people mostly blacks would do anything to prove that I was mixed racially. After a while I found that the best thing to do was to let it go and ignore the ignorence. But due to growing up like this many things arose. First I developed a confusion Of my own identity. I've had a hard time when dating girls because, my last girlfreind was German and I loved her very much. I asked the question "Does she accept me as the same race?" Also I became so very angry and hatfull that it has taken me years to hide the effects of this torment and I still have problems. Due to this I have played apart in the demise of my happiness.I have hindered valuble relationships and befreinded the same type of ignorant people. These people who detest your site and preach lies have no idea of the damage they do to peoples lives ,especially children. But after 23 years I finally saw the truth. I am now in college and I have been doing alot of research for various classes, YOur site is the best source of information I have ever seen. You have helped me so much in defining who I really am. This subject deeply interests me and I can't begin to tell you how awsome it is that someone is out there speaking the truth. Oh yes when I got out of the Marines I saw one of my old "freinds" and after two years of not seeing him he called me a nigger and I promptly beat his face untill it looked like hamburger. I have calmed down alot since then. I am now 200lbs of muscle and when I walk into a conversation of how black Italians are The people immedatly retract there statements. Anyway its not even that I would care if I did have a black ancestor, these people are trying to dehumanize both me and black Africans. I know that I have wrote alot but I think this is interesting stuff for people to know. Also I think it be cool if you could get some pictures of the Berbers. Anyhow thankyou for your help you have definitly influenced my life for the better and I wish you nothing but the best. | |
| DATE | Monday, May 12th 2003 - 06:20:39 PM | |
| Name | M.Bey | |
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I would like to ask (ax) a question.?.So many of you seem to explain the darkness in the complexions of spainairds and sicilians is due to the sun. Because they are in southern europe.thats funny so how long will it take for whites down here in the south(SOUTHERN US) to get and remain dark. The Moors were black face it Shakespeare would have a much better idea of what a real Moor was than whoever wrote that 1985 encyclopedia or Louis Farrakhan or whoever writes this ws.You all have just been damaged by racism so much its the only eye that you see through you poor pitiful humans.. | |
| DATE | Monday, May 12th 2003 - 10:32:57 AM | |
| Name | Siciliana chiara | |
| merkicksbutt@hotmail.com | ||
| City/State/Country | U.S.A | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Sicilian | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Those morons on the 'other' site do not know their butts from their pieholes. Where do they get that Sicilians have black ancestors when the main colonists were Phoenician, Carthaginian, Roman very heavily Greek and Norman??? As far as I have read, Phoenicians were from the eastern mediterranian (modern Lebanon) founded and colonized Carthage. Greeks aren't black. Normans? Well, I guess why that's why my skin is so dang white in the winter, and my mom looks like Queen Elizabeth. Many Sicilians can attribute their blue eyes to the Normans.The Arab element is, however, very evident.I see it in my brother and father. If black ancestry existed as the other ignoramuses have purported, you would have throw back genes all over the place with mullattos everywhere,like Brazil or Puerto Rico.I think some mullattos are gorgeous but they DONT EXIST IN SICILY!!!!I've been there, my parents were born there. The only black folks you see are the sub saharan vendors that are dressed in robes with no shoes(and bad feet) and speak broken Sicilian. I didn't see lines of women seducing these foreigners!!!!No thanks! Sorry Nazis, what you don't know is that the culture is very old and does not encourge promiscuous interracial sex. Traditional Sicilian fathers have had much to say about who their daughters marry. Usually the prerequisite is that he would have to know the family. Didn't you see the Godfather? Dummy? | |
| DATE | Tuesday, May 6th 2003 - 02:27:57 PM | |
| Name | mr italiano | |
| City/State/Country | italy | |
| Race/Ethnicity | white | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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for those that are not aware..there is a site up called refuting the lies at racial myths(this site),it seems somebody has taken it upon themselves to make a site simular to this,,but against the information on this site.
the site spreads various lies about italians and greeks and oter countrys around the balkans(slavics). DO NOT BELIEVE SUCH LIES ON THAT OTHER SITE. this site is about a true as you can get look at race and ethinticitys. let us state the obvious..people get darker as the sun gets hotter,english tourists can come back from spain and be as dark as an arab(ive seen many),i guess they have now changed race!!! come off it! please note that europe is becoming a cess pit of primative peoples...go to the once great paris and see what your local negroe drug dealers are up to(,selling drugs,shooting people,mugging people,pimping woman etc etc). this pheunominum can be seen in many other places,,london,manchester,berlin,madrid etc etc,,,if white people do not act now we will become extinct,,all those years of culture thrown away to uncivilized jungle beaters. in case you havent worked it out yet,,,blacks CANNOT live in harmony with white folks,all areas inhabitated by 3rd world negroes sooner or later turn into african style slums look at argentina,the highest number of whites in south america,,and guess what?? yes the lowest crime rates,and the highest standered of living in south america....oh i wander why this could be,,i guess its all racialism hey!!!! | |
| DATE | Sunday, May 4th 2003 - 11:54:46 AM | |
| Name | Trevor | |
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"The idea that North Africans are black arose as a desperate attempt by black academics to culturally validate sub-Saharan Africans by arbitrarily equating "Africa" with "black" in order that black people could take credit for the great civilizations of North Africa. Amazingly, with little or no evidence provided to support such a claim, it has been almost universally accepted in academia."
I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you pointed out the "little to now evidence too". I dusted off a 1985 World Book Encyclopedia set and looked up "Moor". This is what you saw when you looked up Moor. This was the "universally accepted" academia at the time ... "The Term Moor in its French form Maure designates the nomads of the western Sahara in Africa. The term Moor also applies to the Arab-Sinhalese Muslims of Sri Lanka. In the form Moro, it refers to Muslims who live in the southern Phillipines..." *shakes head* Then they boldly continue ... "A common but incorrect belief that Moors are black was spread by William Shakespeare's Othello ..." *the dagger* "Moors belong to the European geographical race" That's rather funny to me. I guess if you perpetuate total bullshit for centuries, it'll either stick or attempt to be justified to no end. Your equally clever website is proof of this. I've read enough books to run down every Berber tribe in Pre-Islamic North Africa. Knowing this make your attempts even more funny. good day | |
| DATE | Saturday, May 3rd 2003 - 03:45:43 PM | |
| Name | Laura | |
| City/State/Country | Texas, USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Northern European | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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I always wondered why some of my family members looked Asian ( we are majority scandinavian) I loved the ideas you had and it further shows we are all mixed up and no one is exactly "pure" and somewhere we are all related in some way - I loved your site and look forward to reading more!! | |
| DATE | Friday, May 2nd 2003 - 08:04:45 PM | |
| Name | Southern European Supremist | |
| Race/Ethnicity | WHITE | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Mc Polock I see your a member of the Arthur Kemp Cult.
You state-The truth is that South Italians have very little to do with ancient Greek colonist or real Romans Apparently you have not seen the genetic information. http://www.lamp.ac.uk/archaeology/amarkp/PUBLIST/GLASN1.HTM The best discrimination was of historically-attested areas of Greek immigration (Magna Graecia) from the rest of Italy. Southern Italian populations are genetically similar to those of modern Greece, and a difference SEE GENETIC Map http://www.geocities.com/dienekesp/greekdna.html This confirms Southern Italians have strong genetic ties to ancient Greece . Anthrometric Evidence Coon- Southern Italians In other words, the southern Italians are a blend for the most pat of Alpines and small Mediterraneans, Essentially South Italians are are Alpine Mediteraneans Greeks The Greeks, in short, are a blend of racial types, of which two are most important; the Atlanto-Mediterranean and the Alpine. Dinaricisrn here is present, but not all pervading; true Alpines are commoner than complete Dinarics. The Nordic element is weak, as it probably has been since the days of Homer. The racial type to which Socrates belonged is today the most important, while the Atlanto-Mediterranean, prominent in Greece since the Bronze Age, is still a major factor, it is my personal reaction to the living Greeks that their continuity with their ancestors of the ancient world is remarkable, rather than the opposite. Essentially he states the the Greeks like the South Italians are Alpine Mediteranean with the only slight differences are that the med type in Greece is a taller version and the dinarics ( also med alpines) are present. Coon's obsevation are confirmed by genetics as the earlier map shows- So yes South Italians can claim genetic anthropological ties to Ancient Greece while nordicist like you and your afrocentrist bed pals cannot.Mario Puzo was aware of this when he wrote the God Father - when the local women in a certain part of Sicily were described as a type more Greek then Italian. And S Italians can certainly claim strong historic rights to Ancient Greece http://www.barca.fsnet.co.uk/Magna-Grecia.htm And of course S Italians can claim genetic racial ties to Rome the skulls of Pompeiians,72 victims of the eruption which turned their city from a metropolis into a museum. These crania, with a mean cranial index of 80, represent a population which had acquired a racial character of its own despite its mixed origin, and in which the Alpine element was the most important. . The facial features included the well-known "Roman" nose, which may have been partly derived from an Etruscan source(mediteranean). On the whole, the well-known sculptures of Caesar, Augustus, and others, although not reliable from the standpoint of accurate measurement, indicate that a mesocephalic to brachycephalic head form was admired (Alpine) Thats right John Gotti, Sammy the Bull Gravano ,Joe Di Maggio,Sylvester Stallone,Rudy Guliani and Tony Saprano can legitmately claim racial ties to both Greece and Rome while you Nordicist and Afrocentrist who look to Greece and Rome for your self esteem cannot. THE TRUTH HURTS EHHHHH ? Southern Europeans support this site because they are sick and tired of hearing propaganda about who they are by people like you and refuse to tolerate such lies about their origins. | |
| DATE | Friday, May 2nd 2003 - 03:26:04 PM | |
| Name | Dan | |
| free@pics.com | ||
| URL | http://www.virginc.com/ | |
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Nice site. | |
| DATE | Thursday, May 1st 2003 - 09:36:06 PM | |
| Name | Quinn | |
| City/State/Country | USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Cauc | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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RM, even though I think you're doing great work on this site, I think you're wrong about the Uralic genetic contribution. I'm not disputing the contribution but I don't think Uralics are straight Mongoloids and there's no reason to think these Uralic genes indicate Mongoloid ancestry. The map showing the distribution of Uralic genes in Europe and Asia says it all. Uralic genes are strongest were you'd expect them to be in areas where Finno-Ugrians and other Uralic people have settled. Beyond that though things get a little confusing. China, Korea, Japan and Southeast Asia have no more Uralic genes than Britain, Spain and France and much less than many appearingly straight Caucasoid peoples - Iranians, Greeks etc. Your map doesn't show the Americas but I'd be willing to bet that the Amerindians have even less Uralic genes than the East Asians.
Even the most Mongoloid looking Uralic groups, Khanty and Samoyed probably, look partially Caucasoid. Do you think its possible that these Uralic genes are something specific to them and doesn't indicate any real connection to the larger Mongoloid race? ===== Uralic genes correlate with frequencies of the Tat-C polymorphism, which was recently confirmed to be of Siberian origin (Lell et al., 2002). It's a mutation that's specific to Northeast Asia and not shared by the more southerly groups. American Indians, who are originally from Siberia, don't have Tat-C because it's only ~4000 years old, and they migrated to the New World long before that. RM | |
| DATE | Thursday, May 1st 2003 - 02:27:13 PM | |
| Name | Ladoucer | |
| ladoucer@webtv.net | ||
| City/State/Country | USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | White | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 3 | |
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I wish to state the truth about British. The British, now matter how fair skinned they often are, still have lots of semitic genes and semitic faces. Actress Debbie Reynolds ( very cute in her movies and barefoot baby pictures) has very light skin and hair but still has a Jewish (or rather Syrian) looking face outside of her very light skin. Singer Glenn Campbell, on the other hand, though not fully as light skinned or light haired as DEbbie Reynolds is totally Scandinavian looking. The reason is obvious. While both celebrities are solely British in origin Debbie has around 40% Semitic Genes, 10% Celtic genes and 50% Scandinavian ones where as Glenn has barely 10% Semitic Genes, 5% Celtic ones and 85%% Scandinavian ones. The further reason is because all the British are a mixture of Neolithic Syrians who came to Britain from Syria 10,000 years ago, Celts who came to Britain 2500 years ago and Scandinavians who came 1500-1100 years ago. Most British look more Debbie (Semitic but with finer, lighter features than most arabs and jews) than Glenn (pure scandinavian), this is evidence that the Semitic type is usually almost half their ancestry and it's the ancestry that facially absorbed the later incoming elements more often than it was absorbed by them.
I would like to know who exactly the Britons are you refer to? The Welsh maybe? The Cornish perhaps? They are sure not the Irish and Scottish. Don't be put off, anyone, by that around 12% Semitic-hamitic DNA the Irish and Scottish have either. That's only when all the various British groups from all regions of Scotland and Ireland are combined. When the Vikings came to Britain(cept for the first waves of them called Angles/Saxons, who were genetically indistinguishable from Danish) they always were just men. These Viking men took Syrian-descended native British women (who often looked like beauty-actress Justine Bateman) for wives. This soon left the British looking (YChromosome-wise) very non-Syrian as Y Chromosomes are only inherited from the men to their sons. These Viking men mostly settled just in northern England but it has to be remembered that England is by far the most populated region of the British Isles. All the other British regions were to a much lesser degree settled by Vikings too and later by (Viking YChromosome descended) English soldiers and settlers. These soldiers and settlers further drove the Syrian Y Chromosome out of the British Irish and Scottish peoples (but not the Syrian traces out of theIrish and Scots nuclear DNA which is much more packed with Syrian genes). | |
| DATE | Wednesday, April 30th 2003 - 10:07:10 PM | |
| Name | good site | |
| City/State/Country | europe the motherland | |
| Race/Ethnicity | white european | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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1..theres no such thing as a mixed race european,if a person is from europe and looks mixed race then the chances are he is!1 strand of non white blood from 1000 years ago does not make a mixed race person.
2..human beings did NOT come from africa,this is a lie that is being fed to us by black scholers and academics,and other liberal left wingers,there is no evidence to suggest that the human race comes from africa anymore then evidence to say we all come from asia. 3..there is a big effort of late to pin achievments to negroes worldwide to make them feel more pride for there background of non achieving primative ways.there is not one great empire that any group of negroids has built,there biggest claimto fame is that ancient egypt was black,not true the glory days of that empire was under white rule,when negroes mixed into that empire ,guess what it fell apart. 4..i have been to greece,italy,spain,portugal and the like and viewed no sign of negroid of arababic blood in anyone of them apart from a few immegrants,the hot weather in these regions acounts for the fact that the people in the south of europe tend to be darker. 5..to this day negroes are the group of people who have achieved th least,all other cultures have done somthing note worthy,i am not a biggot or a racist,just being realistic,why lie about these things. 6..i have noticed that many mixed race people comment on this guestbook that italians and greeks have black blood,this is because they are confused of there racial background,and try to make themselves look more complete,many blacks are in the state they are today because of there low intelligence and bad methods,winners win,losers lose. | |
| DATE | Monday, April 28th 2003 - 01:04:03 PM | |
| Name | Mike | |
| City/State/Country | England | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Celtic 75% Anglo Saxon 25% | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Good site RM.
And a very simple way of disproving the rather stupid claim that modern Greeks are diffferent from ancient Greeks is the Kalas of Pakistan. They are a small tribe of 3000 people living in the mountainous Hindukush and are descendents of the troops of Alexander the Great. Their language is ancient Dorian Greek with Sanscrit, Persian and local dialects absorbed into it. Anyway I watched a documentary where the Kala children went on a visit to Greece. In an interview they noted that these people looked very much like them. I don't think anymore needs to be said on that subject as only a complete moron would perpetuate that myth. As for "celtic" Britain I can imagine that although after invasions celtic culture was dominant I can imagine that the invaders were absorbed into the native culture. I would suggest that it was those natives who were related to Basques and other Celtic tribes in Iberia. And although it has been documented that the Anglo-Saxons ethnically clensed a lot of Britain there was a lot of the indigenous population which were absorbed into the Anglo-Saxon population. Hence the English surnames Welsh, Walsh, Welch as Welsh was the name for foreigners. And finally I was watching a programme on the discovery of an ancient skeleton in England. They got a swab of DNA from the skeleton and took DNA samples from the local area. They then went to meet the person who was a direct descendent of this ancient Britain and they entered a school room where most of the pupils looked anglo-saxon they either had blonde, ginger or light Brown hair. The camera then turned to the teacher who had VERY DARK BROWN hair with bushy eyebrows and guess who was related to the skeleton?......Yep that's right, the teacher. | |
| DATE | Monday, April 28th 2003 - 02:45:28 AM | |
| Name | the truth shall set you free | |
| City/State/Country | central/southern europe | |
| Race/Ethnicity | white european | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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1..if you dont think the sun makes skin dark,the go to the beach and look at your skin afterwards,people who live in a hot climate all year round are bound to be darker its common sense.
2..if you think having black hair is a sign of non white blood then how comes many northern europeans have black hair,i have seen many germans with black hair(no they where not turks either) 3..i knew of someone who had red hair and blue eyes yet he had 1/8 negroid blood and you wouldent have known it, 4..if you cant tell the difference bettwen an italian/greek/spaniard who is white with a sun tan,from a mixed arab/negro,then you are blind. 5..italians had the best empire the world has ever seen,italy is known for its culture,food,cars,styles,woman lifestyle etc,,italians could not have had such a positive effect on the world had we mixed with negroes of lower intelligence,. 6..yes i am italian and have medium to dark brown hair,and blue/green eyes,and paleish olive skin. | |
| DATE | Sunday, April 27th 2003 - 08:48:33 AM | |
| Name | antonio | |
| suck muh dick muhfugga@hoez.com | ||
| Race/Ethnicity | hamito semitic italiano siciliano | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | ZERO | |
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fuck y'all mtuyhafuckaz aint shit dumbazz crackerz yo y'all muthafuckaz aight
anyway niggaz rm can go suck muh dick mutahfucka he aint shit cuz we mezzogiornos are a mix of latin, hamitic, semitic, and negro. dats itz yo. dis guy is fuckin wacked out my nigga. nahmean? ===== Stop pretending to be Italian. We all know that you and Morello are frauds, trying to make your white halves match your black ones. RM | |
| DATE | Saturday, April 26th 2003 - 07:35:01 PM | |
| Name | Reuben | |
| City/State/Country | USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | White-Northern Europe | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 3 | |
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Okay,let me give my views on what the site says.
(1) Nordics have some admixture? Well what's a Nordic? I assume it to be British, German, Dutch, Scandavian. If there is "foreign" admixture, it must be minimal to the very least. Nordics are the whitest/lightest people on earth. (2) Regarding Jews, they seem to look like the general population of the country they came from. European Jews are white skinned and look European. While North African Jews tend to be olive skinned. I have seen Arabic looking Jews and Norwegian looking Jews. It's how one defines Jews. If their defined as a religious group, then race is transcended. (3) Portugese absolutely have non-white admixture. To say many have olive skin because of the sun is a joke. The sun makes hair lighter! Thus why do olive skin people always have black hair? (4) Typical negro propaganda. They were accoding to themselves the Biblical Hebrews, Ancient Greeks, Ancient Egyptians, the Vikings.... Egyptians today are a mixed race people with low intelligence. They mixed with blacks long after their empire died out. (5) Most Italians have black hair and brown eyes. They have obvious Arabic admixture. I agree the black admix is overblown, but the Arab admixture is not overblown. (6) Race does exist. Only someone whoes never looked in a mirror could deny race exists. (7) Many Greeks I see, look Turkish. It's a fact. Turkey is next to Greece, so that makes sense. (8) Sickle Cell does mean BLACK genes. 96% of Sickle Cell cases are blacks. If a white gets it, he/she must have that black gene. (9)The Romans are long gone. ===== (3) If you don't think that the sun darkens skin, I suggest you take a trip to the beach and look at the people there. (5) Italians have Neolithic Middle-Eastern ancestry, as do all Europeans. But Southern Euros have more. Arabs were only in Sicily for any significant amount of time, and religious differences precluded large-scale intermarriage with natives. (7) Greeks and Turks are both largely descended from ancient Euranatolian stock, which is why they sometimes look similar. However, Turks have a Central Asian component that Greeks don't. Anyway, the two have mixed very little (see above). (8) Sickle Cell means black ancestry, but all Western Europeans have some black ancestry. The point is, it doesn't tell you HOW MUCH black ancestry. Greeks and Italians, it turns out, have only 0-1% Negroid-specific DNA. RM | |
| DATE | Saturday, April 26th 2003 - 07:32:48 PM | |
| Name | Brad | |
| City/State/Country | USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | American | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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I not sure what I enjoyed more, reading the information you provided, or all the dissenting views provided by the readers. Thank you it was interesting. | |
| DATE | Saturday, April 26th 2003 - 03:18:53 PM | |
| Name | OH MY | |
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go ahead and praise yourselves.....skin cancer..disease..hatred...divison...deceit...lies....conceit...haters..killers without conscious.....lost children...confused...bored....cain...cain...cain...insane in the brain.....theives....ALTHOUGH...OKAY ARCHITECTS....YOUNGEST NATIONS LEARNS BY WATCHING ITS ELDERS.....TO THINK i AM JUST A KID WRITING THIS..I STUMBLED UPON THIS WEB SITE LOOKING FOR ROMANTICIZED IMAGES OF PORTUGAL....BOY WAS I IN FOR A RUDE AWAKENING....TO FIGHT OVER SKIN TONE AND BLOOD LINE IS STUPID ONLY CULTURE REMAINS. I DON'T GET......WHEN I LOOK AT PEOPLE I SEE THEIR ANCESTRY. I THINK EVERYONE IS MIXED WHETHER IT BE B.C. OR A.D....BUT I GUESS SOME PEOPLE GET THERE PRIDE SOLEY ON APPEARANCE AND FALSE PRIDE. I CAN SEE THOSE PEOPLE FROM A DISTANCE JUST THEIR WHOLE AURA...STUFFY STIFF NECKED UGLY..UGLY..FROM THE INSIDE....EVERYONE RESPECT YOUR PAST..THERE WAS A DELUGE...AND FROM THAT...NATIONS CAME ABOUT....RECOGNIZE..... | |
| DATE | Saturday, April 26th 2003 - 12:12:09 AM | |
| Name | Kurt McGuire | |
| jsacred@hotmail.com | ||
| URL | http://www.geocities.com/chair-head | |
| City/State/Country | Heath, Ohio, US | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Irish & Korean | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Interesting site. Yes, I'm both white and yellow. I usually consider myself a used q-tp, because I'm yellow on the top and white on the bottom. A vast majority don't see me as a half-breed. Probably because the Celts are genetically part Asian, even though they don't look like it. Their ancestors (Cimmerians) were originally the brown-skinned Mongoloids, and these Asiatic Cimmerians were the ancestors of Cambodians, Vietnamese, Laotians, and Filipinos. If that's the case, guess that means the Irish and Vietnamese are distant cousins. Ain't that interesting? | |
| DATE | Thursday, April 24th 2003 - 08:10:26 PM | |
| Name | ty | |
| gemini072@yahoo.com | ||
| City/State/Country | New York state | |
| Race/Ethnicity | African/French/Cherokee (Black-American) | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Even though I disagree with a lot you say here, you bring out a few valid points. The problem I have is it seems you contradict yourself, in to many ways. But I rated u high because I think this can cause anyone to think. | |
| DATE | Thursday, April 24th 2003 - 08:22:28 AM | |
| Name | Decebalus | |
| City/State/Country | Romania, white territory | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Thoroughly white | |
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I hope that Tziggeuners are not considered to be white.They are Indians.I think that the only Latin countries are in Europe.There is no Latinity in Mexico. | |
| DATE | Thursday, April 24th 2003 - 03:32:58 AM | |
| Name | SE | |
| City/State/Country | Roman Empire | |
| Race/Ethnicity | south european | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 3 | |
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Why do Southern Europeans bother to react against the Negros and Nordics? If the Negros and Nordics, look with admiration and envy for the Southern European Civilizations and fantasy that they were they're creators, let them do it... If they're happy thinking they're southern europeans, let them stay happy that way. Poor Nordics/Negros.... | |
| DATE | Wednesday, April 23rd 2003 - 07:37:09 AM | |
| Name | Quinn | |
| Race/Ethnicity | mostly Caucasoid | |
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ARTHUR KEMP vs. RM
Although Arthur Kemp and RM are on two different extremes of the Nordic-Mediteranean argument, they have some interesting similarities. For instance... 1. They both embrace the term "white" while dropping data, real or otherwise, that shows the meaninglessness of the term. Kemp, for instance, defines white as European Caucasoid as opposed to non-European Caucasoid. This is his primary reason for why Jews aren't real "white" people. He doesn't explain why we are supposed to accept that definition and plainly shows that some Middle Eastern Caucasoid are lighter complected and more streotypically "white" - Hassidic Jews for example - than some "pure" European Caucasoids - Basques and Black Irishmen for instance. Basque people are darker on average than Ashkenazi Jews and they are less overtly Caucasoid looking. 2. Both Kemp and RM speak of the Neolithic Middle Easterners as a foreign element in Europe. That's like saying the Mongoloid element in Indonesia is a foreign element or the Melanesian element in Samoa is foreign. That neolithic element is part of what makes Europeans European. The pre Neolithic population of Europe was probably not recognizably European in the modern sense and certainly not culturally European/Western. 3. Both Kemp and RM seem to believe that the lack of Mongoloid and/or Negroid genes is a sign of Caucasoid purity. Caucasoid purity is indicated by the PRESENCE of Caucasoid genes not the absence of Negroid or Mongoloid ones. At no time does Kemp give any data that shows that Northern Europeans are purer Caucasoids than Southern Europeans, Only that they are less Negroid and in some cases less Mongoloid. Are Irish people, for instance, actually purer Caucasoids than Italians and Greeks. Are Caucasoid genetic markers more evident in NorthWest Europeans than in Southern Europeans? I have no idea, since neither Kemp nor RM even scratch the surface of that question. Were all the stone age people of Europe actually Caucasoid? The two European groups that are considered the closest to early Europeans, the Basques and the Celtic people of the British Isles, both have a noticible lack of classic Caucsaoid traits - body hair, aquiline features etc. Are we supposed to believe that the snub nosed kinky haired , prognatheous Irish type common in Western Ireland is a representative of a pure Caucasoid? I'm beginnig to wonder if there is such a race. Maybe Europeans are just a mixed type - early Euro (proto Caucasoid or some other now extinct racial type) + middle eastern (classic cacasoid) + uralic (Caucasoid/mongoloid hybrid). 4. Both Kemp and RM frequently sight the work of Cavalli-Sforza while conviently ignoring the fact that his study's results do not support their respective race theories what so ever. Sforza plainly shows that some Med, groups -Sardinians for example - are genetically farther from Africans and Asians that some Northern groups - Danes and English, for example - while other Med. groups - Greeks - are closer. Sforza also confirms the connection between Berbers and British Isles people. Berbers were shown to be genetically closer to English than to ITalians, Basques, Iranians and East Africans. Only Arabs were closer and only by one degree. Naturally Kemp could argue that Berbers are part British/Western European not the other way around. This would not explain why the connection is so specific to the British Isles and not to Scandinavians(Northwest Europeans) and Basques (paleoithic Western European survivors). Kemp makes a point of showing the lack of a certain North African gene in Britain but fails to mention that this gene is probably of West Asian (via Semitic peoples) origin and has nothing to do with original Hamitic people of Northern Africa. | |
| DATE | Tuesday, April 22nd 2003 - 05:30:11 PM | |
| Name | Quinn | |
| Sham1500@aol.com | ||
| City/State/Country | Los Angeles CA USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Caucasoid mostly some Amerind (via Mexico) and maybe some Negroid (via Lousiana) | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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On your foreign admixture in Europe page you should separate Negroid from Mongoloid and North African from Middle Eastern. That would be be more clear and I think more interesting.
Also I notice the lowest groups for Neg/Mong ancestry were the British Isles groups. Am I interpreting that wrong? Are there other studies that give different results? As you know white supremists generally favor either Scandinavians or Anglo-Saxons as the ideal of white purity. Or you concerned this will promote that? | |
| DATE | Monday, April 21st 2003 - 11:39:36 PM | |
| Name | nordic | |
| Race/Ethnicity | white | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | ZERO | |
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The southern europeans are always saying that they where the creators of the european civilization and that the ancient nordic peoples were no more than sauvages.
It's not true ! It's proven that the ancient nordics had an advanced civilization and an advanced culture. So, much of the european culture of today has a nordic origin. | |
| DATE | Monday, April 21st 2003 - 10:46:04 AM | |
| Name | vincenzo mortelli | |
| Race/Ethnicity | white | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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power will always shift?? oh come on negroes are not intelligent to run themselves,when and if whites become a minority in europe,then they will beg us to come back,why because the have traits which hold them back,its all genetics,not social conditions.
1.of course italians are white,the only olive element is this mysterious race called "the sun" the sun if from the sky and shines down on us making us darker(those who live in hot countrys)same for greece,portugal,spain and italy of course. 2.left wingers stop trying to paint us south europeans with the same brush as arabs and negroids! the lie wont work. | |
| DATE | Sunday, April 20th 2003 - 11:50:44 AM | |
| Name | Hellinas | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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RM you said for Italy "Nordics had no hand in constructing Roman society, except perhaps as slaves and prostitutes."
Everybody knows they were barbarians,however let me also mention for Greece that we never had blond barbarian Gods,our Gods were not Nordic,they were not barbarians,as I know only Apollo and Hera described one or two time as "blond",however Hellenes had Hellenic Gods and they were mostly dark,as their selves,so the Greeks never had blond and Nordic Gods but I agree that they had blond and nordic sluts by the barbarians and and the inferior nordic slaves! Let's make the Roman Empire again the world must know that we are the best and the less mongols!!! Nordic barbarians suck Rocky movie is the best! | |
| DATE | Sunday, April 20th 2003 - 04:18:52 AM | |
| Name | Truth Seeker | |
| City/State/Country | Tennessee/USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | melanated with kinky hair | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | ZERO | |
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RACE DOES NOT EXIST!!!
Race is an invention of Europeans to justify the "white" suprimacy...Without race, what would they use??? How much longer will Europeans degrade/slander Africans just so they (Europeans) can fell good about themselves??? EVERY DOG HAS IT'S DAY....POWER WILL ALWAYS SHIFT... Greece and Rome counted their reign in centuries... Kemet(Eygpt) counted it's reign in MILLENNIUM!!! | |
| DATE | Friday, April 18th 2003 - 10:51:14 PM | |
| Name | alex | |
| alex221166 | ||
| URL | http://www.geocities.com/refuting_kemp | |
| City/State/Country | Lisbon/Estremadura/Portugal | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Caucasoid (mostly central and northern Portuguese, Greek, Arab, and negligible Spanish and Swahilli) | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Mr. Mc Pollock:
There are two reasons why most of the people praising this site are either Portuguese, Spaniards, Greeks or Southern Italians. Reason one I believe that race isn't an issue in either of those countries. Reason two Because of reason one [see reason one] most southern Europeans that had any contact with either the works of people like Arthur Kemp, the ignorant individual responsible for the Refuting Racial Myths site et cetera, were completely shocked to see their heritage and their fellow countrymen slandered by people that couldn't find Europe in a map. It is extremely rewarding to find out that there is someone out there wasting his spare time to defend countries and cultures that in some cases are not even his own, just for the sake of truth and nothing more. You should notice that the individual called "Racial Myths" isn't making any money out of this, unlike some of the people writing Neo Nazi propaganda and selling it through the Internet. The reason why I too decided to waste some of my time to write this is to inform you that parts of Portugal only had a moorish presence for less of 100 years. The last moors were expelled from Portugal in 1249 (they arrived in 711). Second, the ETHNIC moors were always a minority. They represented AT THEIR FINEST HOUR only 4% of the population of the Iberian Peninsula (10% of the population of Al-Andaluz and Al-Garb). Most romanized Iberians and goths converted to Islam after the Muslim invasion simply because it was more convenient. I wrote a page that specifically addresses the issue of the origin of the Negroid DNA in Portugal. http://www.geocities.com/refuting_kemp/anon_negroid_dna.html I advise you to read it before making any more incorrect statements. PS: Some parts of the Iberian Peninsula were never conquered by the Moors. Some other lands were completely depopulated due to intensive war, until they were settled by Christian Northern Iberians. And other lands were emptied of the Moorish element when they where conquered (in the city of Santarém the entire population was slaughtered to the last, and after the conquest of Lisbon in 1143, all the 20.000 moslems of the city (moors and non moors) were expelled. This should give you an idea on how things really happenned. | |
| DATE | Thursday, April 17th 2003 - 07:22:52 PM | |
| Name | Mc Polock | |
| Chicago | ||
| URL | http://White -Celtic-Slavic | |
| City/State/Country | 1 | |
| Race/Ethnicity |
This Racial Myths site is nothing more a bunch of twisted facts to serve insecure southern europeans who have a complex about their whiteness.Notice how the board host only reacts to people who question his data on Southern Europeans especially Southern Italian .Yet when someone makes false or derogatory remarks about northern europeans or other non southern europeans the board host does not come to their defense.Also notice how those who rank this board a 5 are usually South Italians,Greeks and Portugese. According to this board we should blow out of porportion the the mongoloid element in northern europe but ignore ther very visible afrosemitic moorish element in Iberians and South Italians and the TurkoMongo eastern elements in Greeks. The truth is that South Italians have very little to do with ancient Greek colonist or real Romans since that blood was heavily mongrulized by semites via phonicea and semetic part negro moors as well as whiter elements from Vikings and Germans. Greeks I do not beleive are mongrulized with blacks but they are certainly heavily mixed with Slavic- Albanian and non white Asiatic Turksn . Portugese like all Iberians had hundreds of years of Moorish rule in addition.Even if the Moors themselves were mostly Arabic they had some negroid mixture and used black troops during their occupation. | |
| DATE | Wednesday, April 16th 2003 - 01:18:52 PM | |
| Name | Trog | |
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Note the dichotomy of this site's owner. In his "Myths 1" section he uses a crochet-pattern and attempts to pass it off as an original image of the ancient Picts of Scotland. Yet, in his criticisms of Afrocentrism, he (hypocritically) illstrates how they use fake images whenthere are genuine articles available.
Despite the oner being made aware that there the original Pictish Stones differ from the hilarious crochet-pattern that he loves, and that they are readily available on the Internet, Racial Myths still uses a fake, innocently distorted depictation. He so far has declined to explain his reasons and ignores the question. For more information on RM's appalling and ludicrous approach... http://www.geocities.com/refuting_rm/1.html | |
| DATE | Wednesday, April 16th 2003 - 01:10:29 PM | |
| Name | raffaele | |
| non te la dico | ||
| City/State/Country | Verona, padania | |
| Race/Ethnicity | alpine | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | ZERO | |
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Gli italiani del sud sono al settanta per cento degli olivastri mediterranei di merda e non li considero neanche miei compatrioti! Mi gioco i coglioni che tu, stronzo fottuto, sei uno di quei merdosi americani di origine terrona che hanno rovinato con la loro olivastragine l'immagine anche di noi padani. Vaffanculo figlio di una sgarata in culo, stuprata da una banda di down lebrosi iperidrotici con il morbo di parkinson!
Fuck off all those goddamned olive southernitalians and southern-italian americans like you(i know what's your origin idiot) ===== Fessacchione. Northern and Southern Italians are each ~50% olive-skinned. And both are of Alpine-Mediterranean stock. The only difference is that in the South the Mediterranean element is stronger, while the north has a more pronounced Alpine-Dinaric strain. Apart from that, they're quite similar. PHOTOS: Northern Italians vs. Southern Italians I know you desperately want to be a blond German, but you're not. So get over it, and stop taking your frustrations out on others. Cazzo! RM | |
| DATE | Monday, April 14th 2003 - 02:25:35 PM | |
| Name | Jenny Berglund | |
| jenny@jennyshome.com | ||
| URL | http://www.jennyshome.com | |
Comments |
Greetings from sweden, i thought your site was great, jen | |
| DATE | Monday, April 14th 2003 - 04:15:01 AM | |
| Name | John | |
Comments |
Why did it take a Nigger like Kenneth to defeat the Picts and be the first monarch to unite Scotland?
Why does it take distinguished European Historians like Mac Ritchie to point this out? Why is there no mention of this here? Why don't you indulge your loyally "white" readers on the First Duke of Florence? Why not mention there wasn't a paved road, bath house or university in all of Spain until Moors arrived? Do you really know the Origins of Moors? I don't think so. It sounds like you're just so racist, it's scientifical. Why not write a essay for your "white" readers on European surnames? Some of your last names sound pretty funny, especially ones that suggest you're the "son of a black man" in your very own languages. Not to mention Douglas..Sir Douglas being one of my favorite characters of the AUTHENTIC Ancient World. Let's be for real, why aren't there any mentions of the ETHIOPIAN General Taharka entering Spain before the Moors? And later becoming a Pharoah of Kemit? You do realize I could jump around to many CREDIBLE subjects you seem to gloss over? Fulk III? Henry the "Black"? Wasn't he the 9th Duke of Bavaria? Do I even need to get into his royal lineage? Do I even need to mention "Black" isn't a coincidence? Or is this my poor Negro attempt to 'Rewrite History"? Why do your VERY OWN European Classical Historians constantly make you look foolish in your everlasting urge to perpetuate total bullshit? A "Black" Historian doesn't need to do anything but quote the Ancient European, who you (and a plethora of other "scholars") attempt to discredit at the same time. Why must a poor ol' Negro such as myself emphasize color when it comes to History? May it be because "sources" such as this one have a hard on for glorifying Europe and the "White" Caucasoid gene? I consider "sources" such as this one "Comfortable History". Because the real picture (like those brutal depicitions of Kemetic Pharoahs that seem to be misplaced here) really trouble "White Pride". Hey, I'm just a Nigger. What Pride do I have? What do I have to lose or gain in pointing these Historical facts out? They'll never be globally taught or accepted..and I'll still be a Nigger right? Muhaha I haven't read over it recently, but I remember you desperatly claiming a Caucasoid substratum of Ethiopia of all places? LMAO Arabs. Why not mention that the first people of Arabia were Ethiopians? Why not mention the Queen Makeda? What do you know about Pre-Islamic Arabia? This is easy to me, since there's such a HUGE void in the "Comfortable History" European "scholars" provide for their dangerously proud "White" Readers. It's fairly easy to notice, fairly easy to discredit. In regards to the Moors, who i think should be credited with Changing the World, I will quote a "WHITE" (Credible enough yet?) Professor of Chemistry & Physiolgy at the University of New York,from his work in "History of the Intellectual Development of Europe" published in 1864: "I have to deplore the systematic manner in which the literature of Europe has contrived to put out of sight our scientific obligations to the Mohammedians. Surely they cannot be much longer hidden. Injustice founded on religous rancour and national conceit cannot be perpetuated forever." He's one of many Historians who realizes you're really making an ass out of yourselves. This is just the tip of the iceberg to me. What Africans established in Europe isn't minor in scope, but minor to me, compared to the thousands of years of splendor and culture in Africa. As if no other African empires existed besides Kemit (Aren't they White Guys?) Baaaah | |
| DATE | Monday, April 14th 2003 - 02:56:54 AM | |
| Name | Pac684 | |
| Euskara684@aol.com | ||
| City/State/Country | USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Basque/Caucasian | |
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I am Basque even though I was not born in Europe, but all my grandparents were. I am sick and tire of being classified as hispanic. I do not understand how a chinise or black or white are place in the same racial category. Americans, and by this I mean (white anglo-saxon)are the most ignorant when it comes to racial profiling. For most americans (gringos) white are those with blue eyes, blond hair. | |
| DATE | Sunday, April 13th 2003 - 10:11:05 PM | |
| Name | James Rowlinson | |
| german_trooper@hotmail.com | ||
| City/State/Country | England, United Kingdom. | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Nordic. (Tall with Auburn/Golden Hairand green/brown eyes). | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Hi. This is a very good site and i was wondering if anyone could you help me. I am English , but my gran has an Irish sirname and i believe that my sirname Rowlinson is a Scandinavian sirname. I get my Auburn/Golden Hair from my gran who has an Irish sirname. I am 6 foot and 1 inch and i am have only just turned 14 years old! I was wondering, would i have been considered someone of the Aryan 'Master Race' by the Nazis during world war 2? Please e-mail me if you know. Thanks.
P.S I am not a racist or a neo-Nazi, i only only want to know out of interest! | |
| DATE | Sunday, April 13th 2003 - 08:08:30 AM | |
| Name | the mighty one | |
| City/State/Country | italy | |
| Race/Ethnicity | white | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 4 | |
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why is it that blacks always try in vain to claim achievements off the back of europions,out of the major world civilizations not ONE was started by blacks,blacks excel in mugging,robbery,murder,unintelligence and attitude,however they cant cut it in the acidemic world,forever europe! the mighty continent,exuse my bad english,the roman empire the mightiest ever seen,oh i give up you know who has the most rule. | |
| DATE | Saturday, April 12th 2003 - 04:07:11 AM | |
| Name | Ricky | |
| City/State/Country | USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | More than 50% Caucasian me thinks | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 4 | |
Comments |
Wow, this site is a breath of fresh air and an interesting read. I of course can't ascertain the validity of what you say just from glancing over it but a lot of it seems to make sense. I was particularly intrigued about the various groups of Caucasians. I am a very liberal person but I am interested more in scientific facts, rather than lies that help the causes of oppressed people. I think that believing in race does not necessarily translate into racism. And even a child can tell the differences between representatives of racial groups. I think that what liberals want people to see is that Jews aren't non-whites and Caucasians who have 1/8 African in them are not African (as they were thought of in slave days). But instead of the non-existence of race, we should see people as they are, in the previous case, 3/4 Caucasian and 1/4 African. The study of human variation is so interesting, it is a shame that people are against it because they feel that racism will immediately jump out from it.
Suggestions: 1. Have a large world map showing the different varieties of humans. Split them into their three stocks with colors like red, blue, and yellow, and create variations of those colors (light blue, dark blue, etc) to show sub-races. 2. Do not believe in the 3-race system if you get too much data countering that idea. Perhaps Australians and Dravidians need their own groups. Just because Australian Aborigines are small in number and appear similar to Africans does not mean that they should not be given a distinct racial category. I even heard that they are more different from blacks than whites are from blacks. If so, don't they warrant being put in a separate group? 3. I want to see large pictures of the faces of the Ainu of Japan if you can get them from some source, or at least a better explanation of their origins (again, if you can find one). To me, so far, from the few small, faded, black and white photos I've seen of the Ainu people, they look more Asian (or Amerindian) than Caucasian, but it is fascinating to think that there could be a Caucasian breed so far from Europe. If they are, in fact, Caucasian, include them in your Caucasoid category. 4. Better explain non-European races. I'd like to know more about Malays and other Asian groups that are not like the East Asian variety and I'd like to know why they are grouped with East Asians. Also, I'd like to know why Japanese and Koreans seem quite different than Han Chinese yet their physical differences from the Chinese are not so great. Good job. And for the most part, lots of non-racist AND non politically-correct info. | |
| DATE | Friday, April 11th 2003 - 10:15:18 PM | |
| Name | Fennia | |
| tuomenlatva@jippii.fi | ||
| City/State/Country | Finland | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Finnish | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 1 | |
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As has been widely reported in the international press recently, FINLAND today has the highest percentage of natural blondes in the world. Our relative amount of fair-haired people is even higher than in Scandinavia, the place usually identified as blonde haven. So I don't understand what difference it's suppose to make if we have some Mongol blood or not -- we still have the most beautiful children on the planet.
The blonde Finnish folk is so triumphant because of our geographical isolation here in the North, and the fact that we mix with alien races much less than in most other countries. But unlike some loonies out there might think, this has nothing to do with xenophobia or thinking we are somehow "racially superior" to others -- it is a simple matter of natural selection of the strongest and most beautiful partner with the best possible genes, as well as an instinctive national community spirit. Fair skin and yellow hair has always been our beauty ideal, centuries before anyone had heard of any racist theories. We have the world's most beautiful daughters, that's for sure. And as for our peculiar, beautiful Finno-Ugric language, we do not at all feel sorry for not speaking some mundane Indo-European tongue! Don't be foolish. Finnish is the world's most descriptive and onomatopoeic language. We can say something poetic in a few words that would require a full-page translation to other languages. We recognize and celebrate our physical and linguistic uniqueness. It's what separates us from the hordes of lesser peoples -- it's what makes us Finns. Ein Volk Ein Reich Ein Finnland Shine on crazy diamonds and good spring for everyone :) | |
| DATE | Friday, April 11th 2003 - 08:49:03 PM | |
| Name | Ralph Stewart | |
| City/State/Country | South Africa | |
| Race/Ethnicity | european (mix of british isles peoples) | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Please please please write a book! Your website was very informative. You need to spread this knowledge to everyone because no one has a damn clue, and it pisses me off. I was badly in need of solid info proving Egyptians wern't black. Thanks for the extensive confirmation of all this stuff. | |
| DATE | Friday, April 11th 2003 - 02:04:41 PM | |
| Name | Who Cares | |
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"The idea that North Africans are black arose as a desperate attempt by black academics to culturally validate sub-Saharan Africans by arbitrarily equating "Africa" with "black" in order that black people could take credit for the great civilizations of North Africa. Amazingly, with little or no evidence provided to support such a claim, it has been almost universally accepted in academia."
LMAO And you must know by now those depictions of Mahotep and Nofret are clearly made by modern hand. This was exposed a long time ago, yet here you are trying your very best to potray Ancient Kemites as "White" people. LMAO | |
| DATE | Friday, April 11th 2003 - 01:43:12 PM | |
| Name | paulo montero | |
| City/State/Country | spain | |
| Race/Ethnicity | very white | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 4 | |
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people in america stop calling mestizzos and chicanos latinos or hispanic they are nor,they are of mixed blood they are just ashamed of there native american background and try and cover behind the term latino which donates europion heritage. | |
| DATE | Thursday, April 10th 2003 - 09:55:29 AM | |
| Name | Frank Taylor | |
| City/State/Country | Boston Area | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Gael, Nordic, Germanic, Norman, Roman | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 4 | |
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This is a pretty good site, but the brittish ilses only have traces of nordic blood, there mostly celtic, germanic and semitic, most of latin europe(spain,italy,france and portugul is franco(celtic and germanic) scandinavia are the nordic ones and and they have semitic and blood which seperate them from the germanics, in india, iran, iraq, afghanistan, pakistan and syria and most of the other persian countries there were pockets of germanic settlement as well. the celts, the germanics and the semitics all are decended from the aryans from when the tower of babel fell and the aryans split up. | |
| DATE | Thursday, April 10th 2003 - 03:53:45 AM | |
| Name | Sandy | |
| URL | http://www.geocities.com/jo_1000_jokes | |
Comments |
I visited your site and I like it very much! Visit my page please !
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| DATE | Tuesday, April 8th 2003 - 12:35:34 PM | |
| Name | L.L.S | |
| URL | http://biblo.tech.nu | |
| City/State/Country | Earth | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Caucasoid | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
Comments |
http://biblo.tech.nu
Human Biodiversity site in Spanish Language | |
| DATE | Sunday, April 6th 2003 - 09:27:29 PM | |
| Name | Anonymous | |
| Anonymous | ||
| City/State/Country | USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Semitic | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 4 | |
Comments |
Not bad at all | |
| DATE | Sunday, April 6th 2003 - 12:26:16 PM | |
| Name | lusitano | |
| City/State/Country | portugal, terra de heróis | |
| Race/Ethnicity | WHITE | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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finally, the truth about my country. i must state to reinforce what is said in this site that mulatoes are a recent phenomenon in my country. more precisely, the mulatoes are a direct consequence of my country's loss of african colonies. after that event, several thousands of race-mixed people came to this country to escape what was predictable: chaos in their homeland. negroes are not a part of portugal's mainstream gene pool, but at this rate i guess it shouldn't take long... the most ancient european country (with defined borders and people) is in risk of losing its identity. great site people, keep up the good work | |
| DATE | Saturday, April 5th 2003 - 10:37:54 AM | |
| Name | lucy | |
| lucy@lucyspage.com | ||
| URL | http://www.lucyspage.com | |
Comments |
Hi, just a quick buzz to say how much i liked your site, keep up the good work, lucy :-) | |
| DATE | Friday, April 4th 2003 - 03:16:26 AM | |
| Name | SOUTHERN EUROPEAN SUPREMIST | |
| City/State/Country | USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | WHITE- | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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RM this will be my last entry in your guestbook.I want to expose another person by the name of Richard Poe--The Author of Black Fire White Spark -who seeks to rewrite the history of Greece and Southern Europe as a whole.It is garbage like his book that is published and promoted that contributes to these false myths about Southern Europeans that you are trying to confront with reality.
http://richardpoe.com/blackspark.html Here was is an excellent response to him. EXPOSING RICHARD POE Richard Poe the Author of a Black Fire White Spark has proven by his recent actions that he is unable to defend and unwilling to defend the premise on which he basis his book. The general theme of Poe's book is that so called Black Egyptians colonized and civilized Europe via ancient Hellas. A recent example of is Poe's response to Dienekes Pontikos.Dienekes points out some serious flaws regarding Poe's interpitation of Greek history. Poe rather then defending his position in his book tries to change the topic to how Dienekes defines whiteness or caucasian. Of course this is typical of Poe when he is confronted. I presented Poe with all factual information regarding the physical anthrometric data of the Greeks since antiquity. It is proven and documented that Greeks since antiquity are composed of various WHITE RACIAL TYPES native to Europe. The leading Physical Anthropologist who have studied the morphology of Greek remains include Carleton Coon ,GL Angel,Aris Poulianos,Baker,Roland Dixon , F. G. Debetz .All are in general agreement general that Greeks since early antiquity have been composed of an Alpine/Dinarid (robust stocky central -southeastern european balkan type ) with strong mediteranean (gracile slim brunette southern european type of the mediteranean coastal areas ) and weak nordic links. ( tall slim Scandinavian or northern european type).When confronted by with the facts I presented him , Poe responded by claiming I was ruthlessly attacking him or that I was rude ect. Poe kept on asking me what the following conclusions from the leading anthropological experts have to do with his book that states afrosemetic roots for Greece. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that if afrosemetic negroid types had a major role in ancient Greece that there would be plenty of skeletal remains uncovered to confirm their presence.Poe does mention GL Angel in his book but he avoids Angel's basic conclusions. Poe states in his historical fiction book that black Egyptians played a significant role in Mycenaean Greece. However, GL Angel concludes that the central trend of the warrior Aristocracy of Mycenae was a robust Alpine/Dinarid type which Poulianos refers to as an Epiroti type native to northern Greece from the area around Mt Olympus ..http://www.aee.gr/english/4greeks_origin/greeks_origin.html Poe obviously is not mentally capable of comprehending the works of GL Angel .Angel referred to other skeletal types associated with ancient Greece as Iranian Nordic classic Mediterranean ect.Of course Poe avoids discussing such realities because he has very limited knowledge of Greek history .His main source is a propaganda piece written by his idol the MARXIST MARTIN BERNAL called Black Athena. Martin Bernal an a ASIAN STUDIES instructor who over night became a Classical Greek scholar while he was getting in touch with his called so Semitic CANANITE roots (as Bernal himself states) is Poe's idea of what a ancient Greek historian is all about.Also Poe's degree in creative writing (a good degree for writing fiction novels) is his main educational credential for his so called Ancient Greek expertise.So we have an Asian Studies instructor and Journalist trained as a creative writer who claim to have made new discoveries into Greek origins while real classical like Dr Nicholas Hammond http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0%2C4273%2C4165439%2C00.html who have dedicated their life to Classical Greek history have a totally different version. Now what is the motive of Bernal a Marxist and Poe (A Marxist hiding under a conservative agenda) Bernal states he does not like the ARYAN theory of German historians. Poe states Neo Nazis are his enemies .Of course we do know that the Nazis did try to link themselves as to ancient Hellas via the Aryan race .Poe and Bernal via their ethnic back round have a valid reason for wanting to fight against NAZI ideology, however, that does not give them the right to rewrite the history of Greek people in order to pursue their crusade. Poe mentions in one of his blogs the following - While I cannot claim to be entirely free of hang-ups, insecurities and unexamined emotions regarding my own somewhat mixed ancestry-http://www.richardpoe.com/blog.php-So Poe has a problem with his somewhat mixed ancestry so he wishes other people to be mongrelized so that he can feel better about his own insecurity from his somewhat mixed ancestry. That explains why Poe got bent out of shape when he was presented with the fact that Greeks have strong genetic continuity with their ancient ancestors. The following conclusion can be made about Richard Poe – 1. He is an enemy of Greek people since he wishes to distort their history. 2 Poe is a anti white –This is evident since he goes out of his way to disassociate Greek history and Greek people from the white race despite the evidence that Greeks since recorded history are composed of various white racial types native to the Balkans. 2. Poe has a problem with white pride types so he wishes to purposely and maliciously falsify the history of Greek people as a means of dealing with his so called enemies. 3 Poe has a problem with his own mixed ancestry as he states himself and he wishes to label people who are not racial mixed as mixed as means of deal with his insecurities. 4 Poe runs away from defending his position when challenged by making accusations that he is being abused or completely changing the topic. 5. Finally the theories mentioned in Poe’s book Black Fire white Spark should be given the same amount of respect as the Space Alien theories | |
| DATE | Tuesday, April 1st 2003 - 03:02:50 PM | |
| Name | A. Klein | |
| Alexandra.Klein1@gmx.de | ||
| URL | http://www.blitzvergleich.com | |
| City/State/Country | Germany | |
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Hi, i like your site. Please visit my website:
http://www.blitzvergleich.com Alexandra | |
| DATE | Tuesday, April 1st 2003 - 07:22:51 AM | |
| Name | the great roman one | |
| City/State/Country | italy the motherland | |
| Race/Ethnicity | white italian,wouldent have it any other way | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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good site nice to know intelligence lives,of course the roman empire was the greatest the world has ever seen,who else apart from the greeks could claim such great ahievements,let us look at the progress of negroids and there seeds around the world,after many years of intergration with society negroes are still swamping in there own self pity and self bitterness,blaming whites for there own lack of acheivements,typical,burnt out buildings,high crime levels,all the things that go hand in hand with black culture and areas,orientals have made a much better effort and have self dicipline and hard working ideas,blacks tend to be lazy un-motivated and slack,htis is how the genes,black people are jungle people,so they cannot become great in a western society,orientals have structure and self worth so they can fit in,whites on the other hand have laid down civilization,italians with language culture and empires,greeks with philosophy and thinking. | |
| DATE | Tuesday, April 1st 2003 - 02:48:20 AM | |
| Name | Ablat | |
| City/State/Country | USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Other | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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I was wondering what race do the Turks of Turkey fit under? They speak a clearly Asiatic language. If you were to enter a room full of Koreans, Mongols and Turks with the lights off, you would think they be speaking the same language.
But, from DNA studies, some you say that the Turks of Turkey are less Asiatic in genes than even compared to Russians. I have met some Turks and have been to Turkey. They look like somewhat in between European and Persian, but I must say that many Turks of Turkey have the epicanthic fold compared to Persians and Arabs. So, it is not known how much Turkmen blood is in the modern Turks. I think it exists in them | |
| DATE | Sunday, March 30th 2003 - 05:21:34 PM | |
| Name | Andy Sadhwani | |
| inverseman@yahoo.com | ||
| City/State/Country | Houston, Tx, USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Asian-Indian | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 4 | |
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i am know longer a supyerior rase. | |
| DATE | Sunday, March 30th 2003 - 12:45:42 PM | |
| Name | Steffan Frinko | |
| spma@uni.de | ||
| URL | http://www.fetisch-xxx.com | |
| City/State/Country | Stadthagen, Brandenburg, Deutschland | |
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Great Site - Visit mine too! | |
| DATE | Saturday, March 29th 2003 - 01:37:40 PM | |
| Name | damon | |
| damon_do@hotmail.com | ||
| City/State/Country | san francisco | |
| Race/Ethnicity | american-korean | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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so much insight!! but i was wondering: don't you think that the caucasoid, mongoloid, negroid classification is outdated? i only ask b/c you seem to refer heavily to this method of classification throughout your site. | |
| DATE | Friday, March 28th 2003 - 08:26:01 PM | |
| Name | Southern European Supremist | |
| Race/Ethnicity | PURE WHITE | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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It seems that people who are intimidated by this site are those who can't stand the fact that information presented by RM shatters their fantacy of claiming ties to the great Empires and Civilizations of southern europe from the Greeks to the Spainiards .The Empires of Southern Europe include the following .
The Greek Hellenistic Empire of Alexander the Great The Greatest Empire in the world has ever seen THE ROMAN EMPIRE that spread the foundation of western civilization to virtually all of europe. The GrecoRoman Byzantine Empire which preserved the GrecoRoman foundation of western civilization during the dark ages and guarded Fortress Europe from Islamic hordes The Spanish Empire that set basis for the colonization of the New World . The Portuguese Empire -Portuguese were the 1st explorers to travel around the world. Though the Empire of Napoleanic France was not a Southern European Empire since France has southern central and northern European elements its founder Napolean was a Southern European White Alpine/Mediteranean Italian . No other region of the world can claim this many Empires of significance .Southern Europe is the brick bottom foundation of western civilization. The fact that NORDICIST and AFROCENTRIST are obsessesd with claiming ties to Southern Europe peoples and Empires to try to elevate their claim to greatness.If they were so great why is it that whenever the subject of racial superiority is mentioned the 1st names to come up are Greeks ,Romans ,Spanish conquestadors ect? They judge their greatness by distorting the history of those civilizations to claim they had a MAJOR ROLE. Those who are intimiadated by this site hate the fact that genetics, archeoloy and physical anthrpology prove BEYOND ANY REASONABLE doubt that the only people who can claim ties to the great Southern European civilizations are the peoples of Southern Europe themselves .I use Southern Europeans rather then Mediteranreans since southern europeans have strong Alpine and a small nordic element in addition to a strong mediteranean racial strain.However only southern european nordics can claim ties to the great civilizations of South Europe not Scandinavians.The fact that only white peoples of Greece , S Italy and Sicily (Magna Grecia)and some balkan countries can claim ancient Hellenic roots and not Scandinavians and definately not blacks distroys the fantacies of those who find fault with this board.The fact that the closest ancestors of the Romans are central Italians and that the only ancestors of the Spanish Conquistadors and Portugease explorers are the white peoples of Iberea.This board use the power of reality to combat the fictional myths that others have led to beleive via wishful thinking. However us Southern Europeans are not without blame. S Euros have sat back for decades and allowed such nonsense to go on about unchecked. I HOPE THAT THIS SITE AWAKENS PEOPLE OF SOUTHERN EUROPEAN ancestry to stand up to those that wish to steal our histories in the spirt of such great southern Europeans as Ceasar,Alexander and Hernado Cortez. Enough is Enough | |
| DATE | Thursday, March 27th 2003 - 12:54:53 PM | |
| Name | YOU | |
| have | ||
| City/State/Country | poor | |
| Race/Ethnicity | sourced | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 1 | |
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I see you as no different than Anon!!!!!
And those you choose to back-up your position are NOT respected in their field. Get more respected information and try to write again. | |
| DATE | Thursday, March 27th 2003 - 12:55:21 AM | |
| Name | HUMAN | |
| City/State/Country | USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | HUMAN | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 2 | |
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Good attempt, that's about it. There is an extreme amount of misguided information here, perhaps the site owner is related to Kemp.
The bottom line is we all come from the same two females, therefore a single race, the depth of skin tone is simply a matter of where groups from one group settled. Check out Karen Coons work, she started the search for the mitochodrial dna. There is an excellent piece on the Discovery Channels website, look under the "original Eve". I have been researching race for 13 years and no matter what the evidance comes back to the same as always; we are so mixed-up fighting for racial rights are a waste of time and effort. And the concept of race is a social constuct. It's that simple, look up the law suits against this country by almost every ethnic group regardless of "race" for the rights to be treated as "white". How about we start seeing each other as the creatures we are - children of a God. | |
| DATE | Thursday, March 27th 2003 - 12:35:19 AM | |
| Name | joey rossi | |
| City/State/Country | united states,new york city | |
| Race/Ethnicity | white europion(italian origin) | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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pleased with this site,good work,im tired of people saying italians look slightly black,its not true,the best site on race origins i have seen,i would like to say that italians range from blonde haired to black haired,blue eyes to brown,yes of course italians are latin like a few other europion countrys but its heritage not a race,like being germanic or norman,this country needs to change its race classification,there is no such race as hispanic,,it would be nice to see even more information added. | |
| DATE | Tuesday, March 25th 2003 - 05:22:34 AM | |
| Name | Johnny Chingas | |
| City/State/Country | Texas | |
| Race/Ethnicity | I'm not sure anymore | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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I have been mistaken for Portugese, Spanish, and Italian. What am I? I grew up in West Texas, descendant of some of the oldest families in Texas/New Mexico. I guess I am a Mestizo. Spanish, French (occupation of Spanish holdings), and Native American. Wait, Spain expelled Sephardic Jews and Spaniards of Moorish descent to the New World. What am I? For some reason, I share common culture with those of the Mediteranean, seem to get along with Italians. Same Religion. Am I Mexican-American, or Chicano. I can't answer the race question. I am in the United States Navy however, so I guess that makes me an American, wouldn't have it any other way. God Bless America. | |
| DATE | Monday, March 24th 2003 - 06:14:10 AM | |
| Name | CHRISTINA BINDER | |
| chr20101@hotmail.com | ||
| City/State/Country | Hamburg/Germany | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Nordic/German | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Hi, I enjoy your site. It is very interesting and informative particularly the texts about the Y-chromosome genetic legacy. As I understood Y -chromosome lineage is a male lineage.
Since it has been found in the Nordic population it means that our grandmothers were getting pregnant by their black slaves. I wonder where were our granfathers. I am a proud heir of our grandmothers. I enjoy the abbony - ivory combination when ever I can. Love from Hamburg | |
| DATE | Sunday, March 23rd 2003 - 09:54:39 AM | |
| City/State/Country | Canada | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Irish ,english | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 2 | |
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I think that this site was intresting reading but the information was not acurate. The things you said about Britons origin from phoenicans is not true. The Britons are mainly ancestors from Romans,Celts,Normands and Saxons and the Irish are mainly from Ibero-Celtic origin. | |
| DATE | Sunday, March 23rd 2003 - 06:12:55 AM | |
| Name | rome,italy | |
| Race/Ethnicity | white, latin/roman/slavic/ | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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nice site,good work!! europe is europe! white is white,wheather its black hair or blonde,black people it seems would like to take credit for europion achievments that europions did! sorry the lie wont work,intelligence must win out,,in my opinion the best looking women in the world....
1.italian(north or south who cares) 2.greek or spanish or croatian. 3.french 4.german 5.swedish/dutch croatian women are very over looked,anyone who has been to croatia will know how good looking they are! | |
| DATE | Friday, March 21st 2003 - 10:17:21 AM | |
| Name | mr valentino | |
| City/State/Country | italy | |
| Race/Ethnicity | white | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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well done for such a great site,it amazes me how some people claim italians have black heritage and also greeks,has knowone heard of the sun!!anyone who styas in the sun long enough tans!
it would be good if you could clear up the hispanic/mexican thing,,anyone who has intelligence knows that mexicans are mestizzo,half asian half white,calling them latino/hispanic is a false classification,keep up the good work! | |
| DATE | Friday, March 21st 2003 - 03:44:27 AM | |
| Name | Pompey Gasser | |
| pompey889@aol.com | ||
| URL | http://www.horse-beastiality.com/ | |
| City/State/Country | US | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 3 | |
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Well laid out and easy to use | |
| DATE | Wednesday, March 19th 2003 - 06:17:07 AM | |
| Name | Tomas Gandoleto | |
| Nick20031@yahoo.com | ||
| City/State/Country | Torino/Northern Italy/Padania | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Mediterranean-Nordic | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Very interesting information by RM:
Recent research on genetic variation in Europe indicates that the closest living relatives of the ancient Indo-Europeans are Alpine-Mediterranean SLAVS (VENETI) in Russia, and not Western Europeans or Nordics (part about the Indo - Europeans on this site). RM YOU MUST EXPLAIN THIS IN MORE DETAIL. IT IS ALMOST CERTAIN TRUTH THAT CAN BE INFERED FROM ALL HISTORIC TEXTBOOKS AND ARCHAEOLOGICAL WORKS. We are on your side. | |
| DATE | Sunday, March 16th 2003 - 08:59:58 AM | |
| Name | Frank | |
| Race/Ethnicity | White/German | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 4 | |
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It's rare to see someone discuss race without taking either an outright racist or absurdly PC position. I would very much like to see an article about average negroid intelligence levels. Whichever position you take, I'm sure it would interesting and would stir up quite a bit of controversy. Keep up the good work. | |
| DATE | Saturday, March 15th 2003 - 09:25:05 PM | |
| Name | NICOLE | |
| City/State/Country | MA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | SICILIAN/PUERTO RICAN | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | ZERO | |
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EXCUSE ME.........WROTE ON THE WRONG MESSAGE BOARD!!! YR THE RACIST ONE......SICILIANS DO HAVE BLACK BLOOD..I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE SITE THAT WAS KNOCKING U DOWN M.B
===== Sicilians don't have black blood. Not any significant amount of it anyway. It's obvious that your being half Puerto Rican (a mulatto people) has created a desire in you to have your other half (a European people) be racially mixed as well. I've found that this is very common in mixed-race people. It makes them feel more whole. Unfortunately, science doesn't bear out your fantasy : A recent genetic study found 3 sub-Saharan mtDNA sequences in a sample of 465 Sicilians (0.65%). Compare that to an earlier study which found 1 sub-Saharan sequence in a sample of 100 white Britons (1%). Negligible in both cases. By the way, the site you just wet yourself over for allegedly "knocking me down" was created by a neo-Nazi. He calls himself Anon. Just thought you'd like to know what kind of trash you're in company with. RM | |
| DATE | Saturday, March 15th 2003 - 08:44:52 PM | |
| Name | NICOLE | |
| City/State/Country | MASSACHUSETTS | |
| Race/Ethnicity | SICILIAN/PUERTO RICAN | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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EXCELLENT SITE!!!! EXCELLENT SOLID INFORMATION!! THANK YOU FOR POSTING A SITE LIKE THIS!!! | |
| DATE | Saturday, March 15th 2003 - 08:38:39 PM | |
| Name | SOUTHERN EUROPEAN SUPREMIST | |
| Race/Ethnicity | WHITE | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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It appears that the board posters egr and progigal son are using nordicist propaganda under the desquise of RUSSIAN
NATIONALISM . Intrestly they claim that they have a close affinity to Germans.This conflicts greatlty with RUSSIAN NATIONALIST who view Germans as a historic enemy.Of course here is how the so called Nazi nordicist view viewed the RUSSIAN PEOPLE http://www.geocities.com/onemansmind/hr/men/Bormann.html Bormann's hatred was not confined to Jews. He called the Slavs a "Sovietized mass" of sub-humans and wrote in a August 19, 1942 memo, "The Slavs are to work for us. In so far as we do not need them, they may die. Slav fertility is not desirable." He expanded a slave labor program for both Slavs and Jews. http://holocaust.hklaw.com/essays/1999/994.htm Through Hitler's beliefs and propaganda almost twelve million innocent people were massacred. Hitler believed diversity in a nation only caused severe problems and wanted a folkish state with a "supreme race" of people. He wanted to rid Germany of people he felt were asocial and inferior to the Germans. Jews, Gypsies, Poles, Slavs, the handicapped, Jehovah's Witnesses, homosexuals, political prisoners, and various others all fell victim to Hitler's destruction. The quantity of diverse people the Nazis murdered can never be replaced; only remembered and infinitely honored as a mosaic of innocent victims. Rise of Hitler - ... The following groups of individuals were identified as enemies of Hitler's government and ... Slavs and Africans were also considered inferior and subject to domina ... http://nellie.pacificu.edu/ohrc/RiseofHitler.pdf Atheist Morality - ... Among them are: "While most of the concentration camp victims were Slavs (5 million) and Jews (6 million), Hitler killed Christians too, so he was obviously an ... http://www.stardestroyer.net/Creationism/Morality/Hitler.shtml http://www.joric.com/Conspiracy/Forum.htm - ... A number of passages in Mein Kampf clearly illustrate Hitler's pathological hatred against Communists, Jews, Slavs, Gypsies, and homosexuals leaving little ... http://www.joric.com/Conspiracy/Forum.htm http://www.propaganda101.com/PoliticsEconomicsHistory/UkraineWWII.htm V- Ukraine under Nazi Rule Hitler stated in "Mein Kampf" that both Jews and Slavs were Untermenschen (sub-human). According to Hitler, Slavs (including Ukrainians) were only fit to be ruled by the Aryan master race. Ukraine and other parts of Eastern Europe were to be turned over to German colonists whose task would be to eradicate and/or enslave the Ukrainians. After conquering Ukraine, it was divided into three parts. The areas closest to the front, eastern Ukraine, were put under direct military rule. "If I find a Ukrainian who is worthy of sitting at the same table with me, I must have him shot." It was Koch who presided over the deportation of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians to slave labor in Germany. Out of a total of 3 million slave laborers in Nazi Germany, no less than 2.5 million were Ukrainians. This number of course does not mention all of the Ukrainians who ended up in the concentration camps side-by-side with Jews and other undesirables. Appendix A - The Priests of Dachau - ... Hitler believed Slavs were ordained by Providence to be slaves to the Aryan race, a fact their very name "proved." Any Slav who had achieved an education had ... http://www.catholicleague.org/piusxii_and_the_holocaust/append_a.htm Now why would a Russian nationalist be sympathetic to such views? Southern European people have never been enemies of Russians or Russian people as have Germans, Mongals,Arabs,Turks, Tartars ,Asiatic Muslims ect. The Nazis viewed souhern europeans as tanned ARYANS while they viewed the Slavs as a race of mongrul slaves .Southern Europeans thus have much less reason to hate the German racial theories then slavs.Yet the poster Prodigal Son and Egr are obsessed with degrading caucasian people of south europe who were never enemies of Slavs or Russians.Why they wish to embrace people who wished to reduce their kin to slavery and kill them when they were no longer useful. Russians are Orthodox as are Greeks and other southern europeans and Orthodox Christianity is a strong foundation of Russian nationalism .Orthodoxy in Russia came from the GrecoRoman Byzantine Empire ( Southern Europe)Russia has historicly been an ally of Othodox christians and considered itself a successor to Byzantium.In fact real Russian nationalist talk about Orthodox alliance and Byzantine revival. http://russia.rin.ru/cgi-bin/guide_e.pl?id_cat=2 Taking it into account, one can say that the history of society was regarded as the history of state based on Christianity - Orthodoxy. Moreover, the extension of the state and spreading of Christianity were linked. From the chronicals times on, there was a tradition to divide the population of Eastern Europe and Siberia into 'ours' - members of Orthodox Church and 'not ours' - infidels Of course during the recent Balkan Wars both Greece and Russia were the only ones symapthetic to the Orthodox Serbs Also the word Tsar comes from the ROMAN (SOUTHERN EUROPEAN CEASAR) It seems odd that these 2 posters who claim to be such Russian patriots attact people who were never adversaries of Russians. Prgigal and Egr maybe nordicist or have another agenda but it should be obvious they are not Russian nationalist or perhaps not fully Russian . Russia is a great country with a rich history and egr and prodigal do Russia a huge diservice by unprovokingly attacking people of Southern Europe. BTW the way it is nordicist not southern europeans who address Russians as mongruls, | |
| DATE | Saturday, March 15th 2003 - 06:49:14 PM | |
| Name | SOUTHERN EUROPEAN SUPREMIST | |
| City/State/Country | CANADA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | PURE WHITE SOUTHERN EUROPEAN | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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LOOKS LIKE THERE IS A MORIC TWISTED INDIVIDUAL BY THE NAME OF PROD I GAL WHO HAS A HATRED TOWARD SOUTHERN EUROPEANS.THIS IS EVIDENT BY THE WAY HE CONTINOUSLY POSTS THE DARKEST SOUTHERN EUROPEANS HE COULD POSSIBLY FIND AND CLAIM THEY REPRESENT THE NORM.WHEN OTHERS POST PICTS OF HIS GOOKY LOOKING SO CALLED KINSMEN HE RESPONDS BY CLAIMING THEY ARE NOT RUSSIAN OR THEY DO NOT REPRESENT THE NORM .OBVIOUSLY HE IS A HYPOCRATE .ANYHOW PRODI GAL SLAV OR SHOULD I SAY SLAVE.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14042a.htm During the long period of war between the Germans and Slavs, which lasted until the tenth century, the Slavonic territories in the north and southeast furnished the Germans large numbers of slaves.--- I SEE SO YOUR NORDIC BLOOD COMES FROM A FORMER SLAVE MASTER EHHHHHHH? The Venetian and other Italian cities on the coast took numerous Slavonic captives from the opposite side of the Adriatic whom they resold to other places. The Slavs frequently shared in the seizure and export of their countrymen as slaves. THATS WHY YOU ALWAYS CLAIM YOUR TIES TO NORTHERN ITALY BECAUSE YOU SOME OF YOUR RELITIVES WERE BASTARDIZED OFFSPING OF VENETIAN SLAVE MASTER . Russian princes exported large numbers of slaves from their country. The result is that the name Slav has given the word slave to the peoples of Western Europe Russia was essentially founded as a by-product of slave raiding by the Vikings passing from Scandinavia to Byzantium in the 9th century, and YES ANY OF YOUR NORDIC BLOOD COMES FROM YOUR VIKING SLAVE MASTERS SINCE YOU SHOULD BE PROUD YOUR ANCESTORS WERE BASTARDIZED OFFSPRING . http://www.electricprint.com/edu4/classes/readings/slavery.htm Russia was essentially founded as a by-product of slave raiding by the Vikings passing from Scandinavia to Byzantium in the 9th century, and http://www.fsmitha.com/h3/h20-rus.htm The days of the greatness of cavalry archers, such as Genghis Khan had, were over, but the Russians faced periodic raids by Islamic Tatar cavalry from the Crimea, the Tatars looking for Slavic slaves and other booty such as cattle. The slaves were a regular source of income for the Crimean Tatars, to be sold to the Ottoman Turks SHIT SOME OF YOUR SLAVE MASTERS WERE GOOKS AS WELL AS NORDICS --INTRESTING http://www.icare.to/prepcom3/slavesblackandwhite.doc most important problem is that the export of white slaves from the countries of the Eastern Europe began much earlier than any trade in black slaves. I do not speak here about the times of the Roman Empire, but I mean the slave trade that began on a large scale in Mediterranean with the spread of Islam, i.e. since the 7-th century. The white slaves mainly from what is now Ukraine and Southern Russia were abundant on all slave markets of the Southern Mediterranean. They SHIT THAT MUST BE WHY YOU HATE MEDITERANEANS SINCE THEY USED YOUR ANCESTORS AS CHEAP SLAVES .LETS SEE -YOU HAVE NORDIC MEDITERANEAN AND GOOK SLAVE MASTERS SO MUCH FOR YOUR RACIAL PURITY PROD I GAL | |
| DATE | Friday, March 14th 2003 - 01:53:08 PM | |
| Name | Manuel José | |
| putaquetepariu@tusabes.pt | ||
| City/State/Country | Portugal | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Fuck You | |
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Who are the morons this site is adressed to ?
Are you north-americans that ignorant ? Anyone who thinks portuguese are mulattos is probably mentally retarded. You americans are barbarians. You're the most ignorant people in the whole world. Go rot in hell motherfuckers. You make me sick. | |
| DATE | Wednesday, March 12th 2003 - 06:24:06 PM | |
| Name | Common Sense | |
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To Arthur Kemp.
Use your fuckin common sense. The word Aryan is a Sanskritic word. And we all know that the original Sanskritites (Aryans) were not Aryan. Nordic have nothing to do with 'Aryan'. Aryan refers to someone of Indo-Iranian origin. Nordic ARE Nordics. Aryans ARE Aryans. Aryans are to Iran/India what Slavs are to eastern Europe and what Nordics are to Scandinavia, and what Latinos are to southern Europe. | |
| DATE | Wednesday, March 12th 2003 - 08:38:49 AM | |
| Name | Bucca | |
| City/State/Country | UK | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Maltese | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 2 | |
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Disturbing site. Sometimes i wonder about the net. | |
| DATE | Tuesday, March 11th 2003 - 08:41:23 AM | |
| Name | European visitor | |
| due.to@spam.non | ||
| City/State/Country | Europe | |
| Race/Ethnicity | DontKnow | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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This site has really good content!
Keep it up, nice work! | |
| DATE | Friday, March 7th 2003 - 09:24:26 PM | |
| Name | mbey | |
| mbey99@yahoo.com | ||
| City/State/Country | richmond | |
| Race/Ethnicity | human | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 3 | |
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Honestly why do you ignopre the meanings of words. The word moor means black the latin mauri Maurantania land of the moors land of the blacks,,kush means black in hebrew,nubia means black from the word nuba a hamtic word.even the word eygpt from the greek aigyptos "burnt or black faces"and come on ethiopian again greek meaning black.I could go on and on dude foreal and it proves my point that racism is truly a sickness that has effected all of us..Oh and why not quote herodotus the father of history when describing the egyptians come on dude..And shakespeare wouldn/t he be a little more familiar with the moors circa 1600 than you or anyone else nowadays since they were still in Europe come on dude you seem smart.
===== "Black" does not equal "Negroid". In the European/Mediterranean world it's used to describe dark Caucasoids (e.g. "Black Irish" refers to Irishmen of Mediterranean type). RM | |
| DATE | Thursday, March 6th 2003 - 04:17:31 PM | |
| Name | alex | |
| City/State/Country | sunny california | |
| Race/Ethnicity | american euro mutt and beyond... | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 2 | |
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what does the creator of this website consider their race/ethnicity?
is the purpose of this website really to expose racial myths or is it something more ominous? i read a part on this site where you say northern europeans were mostly slaves or prostitutes in roman society, this is far from the truth, northern barbarian people made up huge portions of the roman war machine especially towards the end of rome. also a number of romes high society were either full or part barbarian/nordic blood. this includes emperors. Maximin (Caius Julius Verus Maximinus) for example was emperor from 235-238, he was from thrace his father was goth and mother alani (germanic tribes). he was far from a slave or prostitute. i like parts of your site but i suggest you get a bit more in depth and give up the simplistic approach. | |
| DATE | Thursday, March 6th 2003 - 03:14:32 PM | |
| Name | Arthur Kemp | |
| kempcountrymen@yahoo.com | ||
| URL | http://www.geocities.com/kempcountrymen | |
| City/State/Country | South Africa | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Superior Nordic Aryan | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | ZERO | |
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Greetings inferior Meds!
I have just built a new site where you can admire the superior eugenic and Nordic Aryan racial features of my countrymen, white South Africans! http://www.geocities.com/kempcountrymen Hail Hitler and Anon! ===== Ha ha. Excellent. Keep up the good work. RM | |
| DATE | Wednesday, March 5th 2003 - 01:56:13 AM | |
| Name | gadfgfdsafd | |
| City/State/Country | Iceland | |
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Björk is paleo-atlantid. | |
| DATE | Tuesday, March 4th 2003 - 12:46:43 AM | |
| Name | blackman | |
| nonofyourBusiness@yahoo.com | ||
| URL | http://returntoglory.com | |
| City/State/Country | Los Angeles | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Blackman | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Hey, tell a lie for so long and you will start to believe the lie yourself. I know. You white men have been lieing to yourselves for so long that now you are believing the crapp that you created. I guess the original Incas were white also. Hey, the great wall of China was created by white men many years ago. Oh, and everyone knows that God is white-Jesus. I know that it hurts you to find out that all the things that your ancestors taught you were lies. And it exhilarates me too know that my black race created and participated in the creation of a great civilization. Don't try to turn the table around and accuse me of being a black supremist because I recognize some of the racist false propaganda that your ancestors helped to spread across the world to help them justify white supremacy and white domination of peoples of color. Heil Hitler!! That bastard knew the truth. Unfortunately, I don't think that would have helped the black man if he won the second world war. See you honky. | |
| DATE | Monday, March 3rd 2003 - 05:58:13 PM | |
| Name | Sam | |
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Why only Europe? Have some data about Asians or Africans also because this nordic vs. meditarenian starts to be boring (and too personal). | |
| DATE | Saturday, March 1st 2003 - 08:02:09 AM | |
| Name | The Truth | |
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It was a hot summer afternoon in Palestine/Israel. I was in the Jewish quarter of old Jerusalem near the Wailing Wall. Two men materialised in the deserted square. One was a rabbi in a black suit with curls dangling from the sides of his head.He asked me if I was from India. Satisfied with my nod he continued in a conspiratorial tone, "The term Brahman originates from Abraham."
The message was clear. We in India are related to the father of the Semitic race and, consequently, to the Jews and the Arabs. The rabbi's revelations, however, are insignificant if one considers the enormous scholarship that some Russians and Ukrainians have undertaken. Terms such as Vedas, Vedic civilisation, Vedic culture, shudras and Aryan race are turning into common parlance in these regions. Bal Gangadhar Tilak is the most quoted person by those Russians who are in search of a new identity. His work, The Arctic Home of the Vedas (published in 1903 and adopted or plagiarised, as the case may be, from the American V Warren's 1893 work The Paradise Found or the Cradle of the Human Race at the North Pole), is being extensively quoted. Excerpts from Tilak's work have appeared in different journals to prove the point that the proto-Aryans were a white race, more specifically, the Russians, and their civilisation predates that of the Egyptians and the Sumerians. The debates in Russia are confined to the specific geographical regions where their 'ancestors' might have settled after climatic changes forced them to move southwards from their original home in the North Pole. Was it the steppes of southern Russia, south of the Ural mountains, or somewhere between the Ukraine and Kazakhstan? The linguist O N Trubachev maintains that their habitation stretched along the northern coast of the Black Sea, the Crimean Peninsula and the western coast of the Azov Sea. To prove his point, Trubachev cites 150 place-names with linguistic parallels in Sanskrit. What has gained rapid currency amongst many Russians is the notion that the Vedas were composed in parts of Russia, and not in India. Moreover, G Grinevich in his book Praslavyanskaya Pismennost published in 1993 claims to have deciphered the Mohenjodaro script and thus solved its mystery. It now transpires that the Indus Valley civilisation was that of the Slavs (read Russian) and the language was Slavic.We are told, in another work, that the famous and elusive 'soma' drink is actually home brew made from fermented milk (samogon). The word 'russ' is from the Sanskrit — rooksha — white, fair-skinned and the Russian word for Moscow — Moskva is derivative of moksha. Let us move on to the Ukraine. In 1996, Yu Kanygin published a book with an innocuous title, The Path of the Aryans: The Role of Ukraine in the Spiritual History of Mankind. Kanygin informs us that Rama, a Druid, was born in the northern Baltic regions. Appalled by the inhuman rituals of the Druids, Rama departed and travelled to Europe, Egypt and finally proceeded towards the banks of the river Dnieper in the Ukraine, which became his adopted homeland. At the time of his arrival in the Ukraine, Rama was 19 years old. The exact date of his arrival in the Ukraine was 5510 BC.Within one year the local people could follow his sermons. Rama forbade human sacrifice and instead introduced the festival of the mother-night. Rama spent five years in the Ukrainian lands before a voice from heaven bade him move eastwards. That is how Rama came to India where, according to the author, he created a great civilisation by uplifting the local people, teaching them ways of tilling the land, producing clay utensils and constructing shelters. Rama introduced technology, medicine and even taught the locals the art of smelting metal. Importantly, he taught people civilised behaviour. After his death, we are told, Rama was buried, according to his wishes, in the Ukraine, and not in some mountain in India or Scandinavia, where his body, according to legend, was brought by his disciples. Ukraine, the author states, was called Ramavarta or the country of Rama. Moreover, the Greek script is a modern version of Devanagari, which the Aryans (read Rama) introduced in the Ukraine. The Ukrainian language, Sanskrit, became the progenitor of all Indo-European languages and scripts. The second wave of the Aryans to the Ukraine was in the 3rd millennium BC. By this time Ukraine was known as Aratta or Oratania, which, its author maintains, is from the Sanskrit root Arati, i.e. the warrior. The Christian cross is a derivative of Rama's symbol of a circle with four rays. Yu Shilov, another Ukrainian, is an archaeologist who has been researching the burial mounds (kurgans) in the region. Shilov believes that the burial mounds are those of the Aryans. Moreover, the Vedas were composed by the Ukrainian Aryans in the fourth millennium BC. The author gives the exact location of the area where the Rig Veda was composed. It was on the left bank of the river Dnieper's tributary, the Psla. Yoga, according to Shilov, also owes its origins to the same area in the Ukraine. As was to be expected an acrimonious debate between the Russians and the Ukrainians has erupted over all these claims and counter-claims. Shortage of space does not permit me to include the recent Central Asian Turkic claims on their Aryan origins. (The author is professor and chairperson of the Centre of Russian Studies, JNU) | |
| DATE | Monday, February 24th 2003 - 09:05:41 PM | |
| Name | Yannis Stefanopoulos | |
| Yannis20011@yahoo.com | ||
| City/State/Country | Athens/Greece | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Mediterranean - Greek | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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I enyoy this site whenever I can. However, the part for the Greeks has to be updated. The Semino et al.2000 paper showed that in Greece there is not too much homogenity as it is being proclamed.Genetically the Macedonians from northern Greece are miles away from the southern Greeks in the PC1 vs. PC2 graph (see. fig 3).
Although your site is a great one I found some biassed claims in your review (in the myth for the Greeks) on the paper of Arnaiz-Villena about the "HLA genes in Macedonians and Sub-Saharan origin of Greeks". Firstly,the HLA genes method as a method for relating populations is a recognized method in the scientific community since the early seventies. There is a pile of peer reviewed scientific papers on populational HLA variation since then. Many of the scientists, coauthors in those papers are greek scientists. So I ask myself: Are those scientists uninformed about the "unreliability" of the conclusions steming from the HLA variation experiments? Second, R. Spencer Wells one of the leading scientists of the Y-chromosome group recognizes the HLA method as a method with equal power in the ancestry research. He refers to the HLA findings in one of the recent papers. Here is what he says at the start of his paper titled as -The Eurasian Hartland: "A Continental Perspective on Y-chromosome Diversity" published in PNAS, August 28.2001. Vol.98. No 18: "Human population genetics uses the distribution of genetic markers in extant human populations to gain an insight into demographic and migrational history. Population studies of protein ("classical")polymorphisms, HLA VARIATION and mitochondrial DNA HAVE ALL CONTRIBUTED GREATLY to our understanding of HUMAN ORIGINS AND EARLY DESPERSALS". So,if you like to be objective you MAY NOT be blind with respect to the facts published in the paper HLA genes.... by the one of the most renowed geneticists in the world. Dr Arnaiz-Villena is in the editorial board of three international journals on genetics and a long term reviewer in the journal Nature. I think he knows what he concludes out of the experimental data. My advice is: Don't ruin the reputation of your site being biassed. You have to present all the scientific evidence to the readers if you are to be objective.Puting the "nasty evidence" under the carpet is not the winning strategy. I am proud of being Greek no matter what the scientific facts are. | |
| DATE | Tuesday, February 18th 2003 - 09:24:06 AM | |
| Name | White Man | |
| uncleodog@msn.com | ||
| City/State/Country | Marlton/NJ/USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Irish, English,French,German....All White | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 2 | |
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Although you make some good points about the Myths of Race I find a lot to be like a college report, filled with "facts" based on other peoples opinions. I think overall you just throw more garbage on the pile that already exists. Oh and poor choice of people/pictures to represent an ethnic people, did you do your research to see if they were partially something or in the Jewish case converted? Although not many of us are really pure in the sense of an ancient tribe, I believe their is still a difference in race today than what the PC world would like one to think. | |
| DATE | Monday, February 17th 2003 - 06:28:00 PM | |
| Name | Mattias | |
| City/State/Country | Sweden | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Nordic | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | ZERO | |
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Your site must be one of them most "anti-truth" pages I have seen in my whole life, and your way of "proving" things is "quite" non-scientific, to say the least.
Your "gallery" sort of evidence for Nordic and non-Nordic traits is nothing but laughable - how on earth can you sit down and pick out individual faces that suit your specific needs like that? You can't be sane! You can't judge a whole (native) population, based on the faces of some people who('s family line) migrated to the area perhaps some 100 years ago, it's hillarious! Through that, I could easilly "prove" that 90% of the Swedish population is negroid, just as well as I could "prove" that 100% is pure Nordic. Why spread even more confusion in an issue like this one? You are nothing but a confused, anti-scientific, anti-Nordic and neurotic dusky southern European, that's for sure... ===== And you seem to be a self-deluded, uninformed, anti-Mediterranean Swede who can't deal with the fact that he has Mongoloid DNA dating back ~4000 years. For the record, nowhere do I claim that the photos I use in Myth #1 are representative of entire populations. They denote specific racial types that are a minority element in their respective nations. RM | |
| DATE | Sunday, February 16th 2003 - 01:44:57 AM | |
| Name | Al | |
| City/State/Country | Florida, USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Latino (mix of Spanish, Native Indian, English, and French) | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 4 | |
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I have really enjoyed visiting your Website. I especially liked the Myth #1 section (Northern Europeans are racially pure). I've always noticed how some individuals from the British Isles are "dark types", but I wasn't aware of the history in regards to their physical appearance. I originally assumed that dark people from the British Isles had some foreign mixture in their recent background (i.e., Gypsy, Jewish, or Arab). I didn't know about the Hamito-Semitic element in ancient Britain. However, a few years ago I read a book about the Romans, and in one of the paragraphs, I read that the Romans described the "Celts" of Britain as dark-skinned and curly-haired. Historians believe that the early Bronze Age inhabitants of Britain were Berbers or Iberians or even Basques. Some people believe that Basques and Iberians were one and the same. I would like to point out that I personally believe that Basques and Iberians were two DIFFERENT cultures/ethnic groups, of different phenotypes. It’s noteworthy that the Romans described the Iberians of Spain as small, dark, wavy-haired, and wiry, (which is similar to the Romans’ description of the some of the inhabitants of Britain). Basques, on the other hand, are mainly white-skinned, and usually have prominent noses. The fact that Basques have chosen to live separately from other ethnic groups since antiquity, serves as testament to the view that Basques are virtually unmixed people. I do, however, believe that the Iberians were of the same phenotype as the Berbers of North Africa (It's possible that the Iberians may have originally entered Europe through Spain, from North Africa). I also believe that Basque people descend from the people who made the cave paintings found in Southwestern Europe.
I think it would be nice if you could also mention the racial myths of France, on this Website. Many people believe that French people are predominantly Nordic because of the Celtic and Germanic heritage of France. Yet, there are dark-skinned “Mediterranean” people in France (mainly in the West and South). I would rate your site a 5, except that your site gets many “hits” and as a result, the pages are not always available. | |
| DATE | Friday, February 14th 2003 - 08:49:57 PM | |
| Name | "A girl from a funny country" | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Finnish | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Thank you. I really enjoyd reading your web-site.
I looked it up in google to find out if I'm Caucasian. I'm living in the USA and here I come a cross with the idea of race more often than it happens in Finland. I'm very proud of my slightly internal eyefolds and I'd rather count myself to the Asians. Thank for the support. | |
| DATE | Thursday, February 13th 2003 - 10:34:33 AM | |
| Name | Christian | |
| City/State/Country | Finland | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Finnish swede | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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I like this a lot. There is an overwhelming amount of myths presented as facts on various racist webpages and I'm really happy to see someone make the effort in trying to tell it how it really is. I certainly hope that people find this page. | |
| DATE | Wednesday, February 12th 2003 - 09:28:12 AM | |
| Name | Joe Bloe | |
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Your errors make the whole site suspect. Angie Harmon is not pure British, she is part Greek on her mother's side. How many more of your supposed Brits have non-British ancestry? | |
| DATE | Tuesday, February 11th 2003 - 04:43:44 PM | |
| Name | Herodotus the Father of History | |
| City/State/Country | U.S.A. | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Hellenic | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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I would like to say that the website is excellent in its attempts to thwart the defenders of the Aryan model. I would also like to add that the scientific and historical evidence provided in this website is incredible.
As a Greek, I have been surfing the Internet only to find people discriminating Greeks based on their race, culture and history. These people claim that Greeks possess genes from an assortment of peoples from different areas of the world. However, many of those people disregard the fact that the Greeks have preserved themselves for thousands of years. Under foreign occupation, the Greeks knew that their survival lied in the preservation of their culture and ultimately, their race. Not only that, the Greek mentality is very stubborn in its beliefs of ethnic homogeneity. This mentality is not a 19th century construct resulting from the Greek Revolution of 1821. If you read Greek history and analyse the bare facts, you will find the truth pertaining to purity of the Greek bloodline throughout the ages. On the Interent, I unfortunately find Greeks who believe that possessing a pure Hellenic bloodline entitles them to being superior to other races and civilizations. I believe that no Greek (or human being for that matter) on this Earth has the right to consider himself or herself superior to anyone else. Arrogance is the key to defeat, downfall, and ultimately, destruction. Hopefully, any Greek who reads my post will be enlightened by this subject matter and heed my advice well. Again, the website is worthy in all of its aspects and facets. For those who visit this website, please disregard going to the website named "Refuting Racial Myths and Origins". The reason being is because I have been to that website and I find it repulsive due to its arrogant claims with a lack of both scientific and historical evidence to support them. | |
| DATE | Sunday, February 9th 2003 - 08:00:32 AM | |
| Name | Hector | |
| Hpaganserr@aol.com | ||
| City/State/Country | Seattle | |
| Race/Ethnicity | B Again Prican Christian Jew | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | ZERO | |
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There isn't such think as a race. The term race was introduced by evolutionist whoremongers whom were interested in causing massive damage not only to the biblical Judeo Christian foundation but also individuals whom took lies and turn them into very evil movements claiming also christianity as their banner such as the Neo Nazi groups or any group using lies for their own lies as well. The persons of the earth are or supposed to be classified as cultures and not as races which is the proper term. The term white person or race is also bogus and there is no such thing on the earth with regular humans. The only way a person regardless of their outside color can actually be white is if that person has been washed by the blood of the atonement for it's sins. The blood of Jesus Christ is the only thing that can wash a person white as the color of the snow otherwise a person is dark due to it's sin. | |
| DATE | Thursday, February 6th 2003 - 12:04:24 AM | |
| Name | No one in particular | |
| idprefer@tostayanon.com | ||
| City/State/Country | usa | |
| Race/Ethnicity | predominantly mediteranian caucasoid | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Yours is by far the most informative, honest, and unbiased website resource regarding the issue of race that ive found so far. You debunk myths regarding human racial variance rationally, and with a strong factual foundation.
There are unfortunately still so many politically motivated lies and halftruths regarding the issue of race. The result is most people are either are almost completely ignorant about the subject, and/or they wrongly turn to seperatism or supremicy in a misguided effort to better understand the truth. I greatly appreciate your efforts in sharing the truth with us, as by spreading knowledge you circumvent these problems (of ignorance and resulting bias). thank you | |
| DATE | Tuesday, February 4th 2003 - 12:16:04 AM | |
| Name | james monroe | |
| City/State/Country | minnesota, USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | white | |
Comments |
i found many mistake about list of celebrities on myth 1.
theyre almost not british original. they have no british descent. for example, ali landry or johny cash have italian descent. so they are non white, because italians mostly non white. ===== Ali Landry is Cajun (French descent) and I removed her photo a long time ago. Johnny Cash is 100% Northern European (he admitted he lied about being part Indian). And Italians are not "non-white". Read Myth #5. RM | |
| DATE | Monday, February 3rd 2003 - 05:09:37 PM | |
| Name | Peter | |
| peteie@aol.com | ||
| City/State/Country | USA | |
| Race/Ethnicity | White | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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To Sis.Muhammad... You say the white race can not product color and thus any white with 'color' has black blood - this is absurd! Irish people often have a redness to their faces, does this mean they have have a Martian blood line? What of the Asian/yellow issue?
Fact is, the closer a country lies to the equator, the more pronounced the skin pigmentation will be (this is even true of negroid peoples). Accept the gifts your ancestors have given society and ignore sites like this if you find them offensive, but don't try an argument like that! | |
| DATE | Monday, February 3rd 2003 - 02:34:59 PM | |
| Name | Sis.Muhammad | |
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the history in which you try to depict is HIS-Story!! also i noticeed that on every account you try to discredit the black race. You know that the white race cannot produce color and you know that the darker skin people origin is of the black race. you can try to hide and disclaim but you can't feed the lie to us anymore we know the truth about our people and or heritage, infact we know your history as well, after all your race have only been on this earth a little over 6,000 years!!!!! p.s learn to respect and honor your elders for you are our children. | |
| DATE | Sunday, February 2nd 2003 - 04:37:51 PM | |
| Name | Jewish Geneticist | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Ashkenazi | |
Comments |
"León Haim Benveniste" is really "Un Espanol", a Spanish gentile who fantasizes about being a Sephardic Jew. He isn't a professor, he's never even gone to college. Real genetics professors in Israel like Batsheva Bonne-Tamir have already found the admixture rate in Ashkenazi Jews to be very small, around 10-15%. This has been well established since the 80's. One of the most extensive studies on the genetics of Jewish groups was done by Bonne-Tamir in 1979, here is some of what they found:
"we found the Ashkenazi, Sephardi and Iraqi Jewish populations to be consistently close in genetic constitution and distant from all the other populations, namely the Yemenite and Cochin Jews, the Arabs, and the non-Jewish German and Russian populations" Like I said before, this is uncontroversial. The only opposition to this comes from revisionist pseudo-scientists, not real scientists. | |
| DATE | Friday, January 31st 2003 - 09:36:00 PM | |
| Name | Rojan | |
| City/State/Country | NYC | |
| Race/Ethnicity | east indian | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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good work i was always fascinated by race n now i have a site that shares my view.
PS tha otha site is GAY n can u give me 1 of ur wise answers they madd funni keep up tha good work n i hope u have sum thing on south indian who r not of dravidan stock but migrant semites like me. | |
| DATE | Friday, January 31st 2003 - 02:17:04 PM | |
| Name | Cheng | |
| liberateyourspirit@yahoo.com | ||
| City/State/Country | australia | |
| Race/Ethnicity | mongoliod | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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very informative and mind provoking site. Also clarifies the many misconceptions and questions I've had in regard to racial identity.
I would like to read more on racial mixing though, since vast numbers of ppl are a mix. | |
| DATE | Wednesday, January 29th 2003 - 11:16:17 PM | |
| Name | León Haim Benveniste | |
| LeoBenv@post.tau.ac.il | ||
| City/State/Country | Tel Aviv, Israel | |
| Race/Ethnicity | 3/4 Turkish Sephardic Jew 1/4 Dagestani Mountain Jew | |
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It's a very informative site that you've created. It's good that you can back up things with genetical evidence.
The supposed "Ashkenazi professeur" who posted below does have very little knowledges regarding the genetical structure of the Ashkenazi population. Here is a study on y-chromosomes wich tested 3 different Ashkenazi groups. 2 clustered with europeans the other clustered with non-european but was still not very close to other Jewish groups Leb-Lebanese NAS-North African JewsNES-Near Estern Jews Sep-Sephardim Jews SOS-South Sardinian http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/AJHG/journal/issues/v61n5/970152/fg2.h.gif http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/AJHG/journal/issues/v61n5/970152/970152.html other y-chromosome studies: "...Levite haplotype distributions were compared with distributions in Israelite Jews and candidate source populations (north Germans and two groups of Slavonic language speakers). The Ashkenazic Levites were most similar to the Sorbians, the most westerly Slavonic speaking group whose language has been proposed, on grammatical grounds, to have contributed to Yiddish - the language of Ashkenazic Jews. Comparisons of the Ashkenazic Levite dataset with the other groups studied suggest that Y chromosome haplotypes, present at high frequency in Ashkenazic Levites, are most likely to have an east European or west Asian origin and not to have originated in the Middle East." http://www.dna6.com/abstracts/bradman.htm "By analyzing Y chromosomes from a sample of both Levite and non-Levite populations in both Sephardic and Ashkenazi communities, geneticists have discovered that an astounding 30 percent of Ashkenazi non-Cohenic Levites have a particular || combination of DNA material on part of their Y-chromosome that is not shared to any extent by either non-Levite Ashkenazi Jews or the Sephardic community as a whole. This genetic marker does not even show up among the Cohens (descendants of the ancient Israelite Chief Priests) - but only among the descendants of Assistant Priests, and then only within Ashkenazi (northern European) Jewry. What seems to have happened is not only a potentially large-scale conversion of non-Jewish people David Keys. Catastrophe: An Investigation Into the Origins of the Modern World. New York: Ballantine Books, 2000. Keys summarizes M. G. Thomas, Karl L. Skorecki, H. Ben-Ami, Tudor Parfitt, Neil Bradman, D. B. Goldstein, "Origins of Old Testament Priests." Nature 394 (July 9, 1998): 138-140. Especially their mtDNA is predominantly European since Hebrew men that camed to Europe usually took local women as wifes. http://www26.brinkster.com/archived/viewnews.asp?newsID=642193019390 other studies: This result is consistent with an origin for the Jewish priesthood antedating the division of world Jewry into Ashkenazi and Sephardic communities, and is of particular interest in view of the pronounced genetic diversity displayed between the two [Sephardic and Ashkenazic] communities." http://www.familytreedna.com/nature97385.html Ashkenazi Jews -- those chiefly from the Pale of Poland, Russia, and central European countries -- seem to be genetically DIFFERENT from their Sephardic coreligionists. Familial Mediterranean fever is rare among Ashkenazi Jews but common among Sephardim. http://www.acponline.org/journals/annals/01oct98/fevredit.htm Overall Ashkenazis get on average 1/2 of their ancestry from Europeans. Another proof of significant european admixture among Ashkenazis is their different skull-shap(wich is shorter and broader) compared with non-Ashkenazi Jews. Phyisical Anthropologists camed to the conclusion that the cranea of modern Ashkenazis is VERY DIFFERENT from the ancient Hebrews(wich had longer, narrower heads) The broad-headedness among Ashkenazis is the result of intermixture with Slavs wich are the most brachycephalic(broad headed) people in Europe. Recent studies from 2002 found that the impact of the environment on head size is minor. http://www-personal.umich.edu/~lanceg/gravlee_boasAA.pdf http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/99/23/14636?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&author1=sparks&searchid=1043334349790_2818&stored_search=&FIRSTINDEX=0 Prof. León Haim Benveniste, Ph.D. Department of Human Genetics and Molecular Medicine Sackler School of Medicine Tel Aviv University Ramat Aviv, Tel Aviv 69978, ISRAEL Tel: 09-747-2402 Fax 09-747-2973 E-mail:LeoBenv@post.tau.ac.il | |
| DATE | Thursday, January 23rd 2003 - 07:18:26 AM | |
| Name | matt | |
| City/State/Country | portugal | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 4 | |
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I find most of what you have written, interesting, definitely well researched and thought out. Although, I must agree that many northern Europeans, often express racial superiority to others worldwide, I always assumed it to be by-product of Nazism. After all, Hitler had rejected many of those who today are thought of as examples of white, such as Poles and Russians (In North America, anyway). It is only fitting that many of these northern European nations "choose sides” before they too are singled out. It's always nice to be part of the cool gang than the freaks.
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| DATE | Tuesday, January 21st 2003 - 10:51:13 PM | |
| Name | Clairvoyant | |
| Race/Ethnicity | African/Native American | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | ZERO | |
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C'mon man, you can't be serious. How do you explain the Negro natives of Arabia? India? Australia? China? Japan? Vietnam? Hawaii? Tazmania? British Isles even? Do MORE research. You'll find that the Negro is native to tons of places, oh except North Africa of course (Ha!).
What is the Caucasoid explanation for the Xia, Zhou & Shang Dynasties of China? What about the first inhabitants of Japan having huts identical to those of Bushmen in Africa? What about Sakanouye no Tamuramoro, a Negro (Documented by countless Japanese Historians), being the first "Samurai" of Japan? If your studies are that in depth you could easily answer questions like these. What about the African expeditions into Europe BEFORE the Moors? Did you dig anything up on that yet? The Negro's History is thousands of years deeper than anyones. Hmmm, I wonder why. I consider this site a desperate attempt at reconstucting history. Seriously, for one to think NONE of the Moors were Black Africans is Lunacy. All Ancient Historians regard the Moors as Blacks, as well as the Egyptians. The Moors joined with Arabs before going into Europe, this is a fact. A Fact that's been so diluted, people actually think the Moors weren't bonafied "Niggers". Why is Egypt (KMT) deemed "Land of the Blacks"? Why was Egypt called "The First Daughter of Ethiopia" in ancient times? Why do the existing artifacts of the 18th Dynasty ( Including Nefertiti) all resemble the Negro and NOT the caucasoid? Take a good good good look at yourself, then take a look at King Tut, Ahkenaton, Nefertiti (especially their Daughter) Queen Tiye etc. Those folks would be riding on the back of the bus if this was the 50s. I experience more humor than outrage when I hear Europeans/Caucasions claim Egypt. The Irony is as thick as a Nazi Rock song. One could say that Black Authors such as Dr Ivan van Sertima, Runoko Rashidi, J.A. Rogers etc have/had an agenda to Glorify Black. They're called "Afrocentrics" and have a image of being oppurtunists, re-writers of His-Story and so on. This attempt to put these Authors in a box & discredit them is running out of steam. Ivan van Sertima already cleared up the African Presence in Pre-Columbian America over 20 years ago. He was one of the few that could objectivly explain Pyramids in Mexico and the 40 ton stone Negro heads found in Vera Cruz. He's the only one, along with Runoko Rashidi, that could coherently explain the Natives of Asia. These writers are waaaaay behind in the race to re-write history, and I honestly believe they have no desire in doing so. They do, however, have a desire to CORRECTLY document the movements of the Negro throughout History. I don't ever see them copping out & saying "Fuck it, the Nigger has no History that doesn't involve the white man", considering that couldn't be any further from the truth. The whole point of my post is ... you can't be serious. Your "Bust" of "Hannibal" proves that even. | |
| DATE | Monday, January 20th 2003 - 05:47:23 AM | |
| Name | Jewish Geneticist | |
| Ashkenazi Jewish | ||
| Rate Site (0-5) | 4 | |
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Can anyone answer this question for someone who wrote me a letter asking
about H3 and "Viking genes" of NE Europe in Hassidim of Bialystock who grew up in Brooklyn? Interestingly, I've heard in a letter from one of my students, a descendant of 19th century Michael Levine's relative who has H3 Y chromosome. Mike was born in 1894 from red-haired Hassidic parents. He had blue eyes, light curly hair, freckled ruddy skin, and his female relative was impregnated by a pogram perpetrator around 1880 in North Eastern Europe, Bialystock, perhaps someone who could have been related to the Vikings, thereby passing on Hg 3 Y chromosomes to all male relatives of this boy born in 1894...in a family of 9 grandsons, all orthodox Jewish. So the answer to Viking blood, it's well known that the European people that have the most redheads and strawberry blondes are the Ashkenazim, particulary the Hassidim of Brooklyn, says the letter. (Is this accurate, anyone--are the most redheads in the world found only among the Ashkenazim, with the second most frequent the British/Irish, and the third, Georgians and Turks? Could red and red/blonde hair plus H3 Y-chromosomes be attributed to the stories one hears of pogroms and women being impregnated by Cossacks, and others from N. E. Europe? Does anyone know where red hair comes from among the close-knit Hassidic group from eastern Poland? Anyone have an answer I can forward on to Mike's grandkids? (A student in my science writing class). Thanks. | |
| DATE | Sunday, January 19th 2003 - 01:27:01 AM | |
| Name | Just a guy | |
| ekg@dbzmail.com | ||
| URL | http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/10/23/1034561548243.html | |
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You should remove the photo of Lisa Kudrow, for the simple reason that she has undergone plastic surgery.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/10/23/1034561548243.html I don't like this guestbook. I had to insert the above text two times, because I didn't leave a name the first time. | |
| DATE | Wednesday, January 15th 2003 - 04:59:55 AM | |
| Name | Andrew | |
| xa3apta@hotmail.com | ||
| Race/Ethnicity | Lithuanian | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 4 | |
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Very interesting website, good job. | |
| DATE | Monday, January 13th 2003 - 08:02:08 PM | |
| Name | Jewish Geneticist | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Ashkenazi Jewish | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 4 | |
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The only problem I see in the site is the Jewish myth. It's generally accepted among geneticists that Ashkenazi (European) Jews only have about 10%-15% European admixture, this isn't really up for debate, especially without some solid evidence that it's more.. People have too many misconceptions about what ancient Jews looked like, you might want to add pictures of Sephardic/Oriental Jews (Aryeh Deri, Harav Eliyahu, etc.) to get rid of the myth that they just look like Arabs and not other Jews.
Also not surprisingly, Anon didn't leave a guestbook for people to correct all of his mistakes. His page about inbreeding is just his own theories, nothing real. Jews are unique for living only in cities for the past 2,000 years, so naturally he projects and tries to associate them with his unimportant rural ancestors. First of all, Ashkenazi Jews have a low inbreeding coefficient, typical for a European population. Second of all, inbreeding has a NEGATIVE association with the type of diseases that Jews get (recessive genetic diseases). Inbreeding increases the number of diseased people compared to the number of carriers so it makes it much less likely to spread. In reality, Jewish diseases are the result of changes in population size, and sometimes the carriers have a genetic advantage to the environment (heterozygote advantage). Many geneticists think Tay-Sachs provides protection against Tuberculosis for example. | |
| DATE | Monday, January 13th 2003 - 03:08:30 PM | |
| Name | Tabor | |
| City/State/Country | Mexico City | |
| Race/Ethnicity | caucasoid/iberian | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 3 | |
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Information on the greeks must be updated. Keep the good work. Those nordicists will not prevail. | |
| DATE | Saturday, January 11th 2003 - 11:56:03 PM | |
| Name | Deucalion | |
| URL | http://www.aee.gr/ | |
| City/State/Country | Athens city/Hellas-Greece | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Native of Hellas and Balkans! | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 4 | |
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It is Wrong RM
The Greeks/Hellines descend by...... the Minoans its famous native Mediterranean group, Indo-European invaders... The Minoans were not Indo-European?The Mediterraneans are not Indo-Europeans?But the "Indo-Europeans" is still a theory (Linear B was Hellenic)!The Cretans are not Indo-Europeans and Non-Hellines?Do you call the Mediterranean naitives and the non-Mediteraneans non-Natives? ...that include the Achaeans. The Achaeans were from Peloponnesos!Native Hellines! ...Ionians. The Ionians were in the Asian Minor and Native Hellines! ...Dorians. The Doris were in Pindos and Epiros area native Hellines! ...Aeolians. The Haeolians were native Hellines right?But I don't remember their area. But there are also one more million of native Greek/Hellenic tribes. Pelasgians, Danai, Thracians, Mycenaeans,Epirotes,Cycladicians and many nore. ...Romans. What the Romans have to do with the Greeks/Hellines?I don't know any group of people descending by "Romans" neither anyone to speak or ever to spoke Italian. ...Visigoths. What the Visigoths have to do with the Greek/Hellines?I don't know any group of people who descend by Visigoths neither anyone to speak or ever to spoke Visigothic or Germanic. ....Normans. What the Normans have to do with the Greek/Hellines?I don't know any group of people who descend by Normans neither anyone to speak or ever to spoke Norman. ... and Slavs. What the "Slavs" have to do with the Greek/Hellines?I don't know any group of people who descend by Slavs neither anyone to speak or ever to spoke Slavic. ... and a minor Turkish rather than Moorish influence. What the "Turks" have to do with the Greek/Hellines?I knew that they have to do with us and the other people of the Balkans(as they descend by us and Pers)I don't know any group of people who descend by "Turks" neither anyone to speak or ever to spoke Turkish.As for the "Moorish" what is this? I think that all this speak about a racial chaos,a salate were the Greeks/Hellines descend by all Humanity,they forget to put the Niggers,ha,ha!But as all know Greeks/Hellines are natives!I hink you make the same mistake with all the people! All Greek/Hellenic groups of people I know keep their laguages/dialects descending by the very antiquity,their ancient traditions,their racial types and having Greek/Hellenic ancestrors and Greek/Hellenic bloodline!Ou Anthropologists prove that,read the Paleoanthropologist Aris Poulianos,the Greeks are an Aegean and Epirot race! I think that RM must start everything by the beginning as it is all completly wrong! | |
| DATE | Thursday, January 9th 2003 - 05:54:50 AM | |
| Name | Clairvoyant | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Native American | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | ZERO | |
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That "Bust" of Hannibal was so clever, he could be confused as Female! | |
| DATE | Monday, January 6th 2003 - 09:20:52 PM | |
| Name | Todd | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | ZERO | |
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"Furthermore, I use only the most objective, reliable and established sources"
Yet you use refrences from a White Supremacy website on almost every topic. *tsk tsk tsk* ===== Um, no I don't. When you learn how to read, you'll find out that I'm actually REFUTING the lies on that website, not referencing them. *tsk tsk tsk* RM | |
| DATE | Monday, January 6th 2003 - 09:42:03 AM | |
| Name | Frodo Baggins | |
| City/State/Country | United States | |
| Race/Ethnicity | HUMAN | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 3 | |
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I agree with some of the information on your website, but not all. You consider Italians as Alpine and Spaniards as Mediterranean. It might sound silly that I'm even agruing this point, but I would definitely switch it around. Where's the section on Spaniards on your web site?
Betty (The Spaniard or from Spanish origin) I've been to Puerto Rico before and I wouldn't consider the people there as black as you were so quick to label them. The majority of Puerto Rican people are diverse in racial origin, but most of them have olive to white skin and resemble Europeans. I believe there European racial stock comes from many European countries, but mostly from Spain. Yes, I know there are blacks in Puerto Rico and a good amount of people have African ancestry. I've seen Puerto Ricans that look like Irishmen, Italians, Greeks and African Americans. I understand your concern and agree with you when you said "HISPANIC" is not a race. It is not! | |
| DATE | Saturday, January 4th 2003 - 08:47:32 AM | |
| Name | JK | |
| URL | http://www.hammerofthor.net/texts/TheTurnerDiaries.zip | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Click on the link please. | |
| DATE | Friday, January 3rd 2003 - 05:19:52 PM | |
| Name | Dario Rourke, the Celtic Sicilian | |
| URL | http://*AGAINST*RACIST*ITALOPHILIA*AND*ITALOPHOBIA* | |
| City/State/Country | PA in the States | |
| Race/Ethnicity | A Mediterranean Caucasian | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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To address the widespread notion that it is the Italians with the black ancestry and who are therefore “Blacks,” I say as both a learned student of history and from being half Siciliano in descent with strong ties to the mother country that such is a fallacy. One that is perpetuated, to quote the vernacular, by those sellouts, id est ignorant white trash, especially of the Italian extraction, the Sicilian in particular, whose say-so is based solely on their need for black acceptance and validation, that being engendered by unnecessary white guilt. Who foster it to lend weight to their piteous cry of, “I’m down with the brown.” while desperately trying to emulate any Yo-boy jail daddy street pharmacist who epitomizes urban blight. Buying into such racist stereotypes directed towards us with their apologetic exclamations of, “Hey, guys, I ain’t got white man’s disease, I’m an Italian. I can play hoops, I’ve got a butt, and I can dance, like y’all!” What a joke.
Also at fault here are those white hate groups whose racist Nietzschean ideal of a Nordic superman among Continentals would deny us, like all their Mediterranean brothers and sisters, our rightful place in the Caucasian family. Who distance themselves for fear of so-called minority groups here in the States and elsewhere employing our blood and nationality as a steppingstone to compromise the integrity of our racial virtue. As if such were even possible. (They tend to loose sight of the fact that it was their precious Aryans who descended upon the Indian subcontinent and practiced miscegenation there with the Negroids.) Proclaiming in their ignorance that the original Caucasians were all blond haired and blue eyed. And who in the extreme believe that in order for anyone of our race to be their trueborn descendants that we would all have to have these particular characteristics. (What about those Nordic, Alpine and Mediterranean blond(e)s, brunet(te)s and redheads with eyes that range from green, brown, gray, and multicolored even? Or the Hunnish features of the Third Reich Nazi Messiah, Adolph Hitler, for that matter too?) These are the self-same anti-Semites who would hypocritically worship a Jewish-born Jesus Christ and in their desperation assert that he was nothing more than an idealized Aryan, from a European origin at that. Contrary to the little-known historic evidence that testifies that he had red hair, grey eyes and a Mediterranean complexion. Not without blame with this are those Blacks, to make up for their own historic/social/racial inadequacies, who promote it as an assimilation tactic in a weak attempt at stealing our glorious culture and history. Who claim that they have a kinship with us Sicilians in particular to help validate their romantic fantasy of an African Italia and Maffia. And who would go so far even as to cite fictitious instances of mass rapes by sub-Saharan invaders who supposedly mixed us in our history to support it. Most popular among their imaginings is that of a Zulu version of the Carthaginian General Hannibal Barca, who in reality was of Phoenico-Canaanite descent and hence of the Caucasian persuasion, like all of his migrant countrymen in North Africa, crossing the Alps on a deliberate miscegenation campaign just so that he could homogenize Italia into a land of mulattos. As if such an insulting assertion of Negroid bastardy could ever ingratiate them with us. (Hey, guys, maybe the term white nigger can be an endearing one to describe you, considering the history of Blacks here in North American and all.) Something they no doubt feel would put them of a footing of equality with the stereotypical beauty, purity and success that they associate with being Caucasian. This is evidenced best in the States here by their hypocritical hatred of Italians and their attempts to “whitewash” themselves with our Latin blood. Also by their constantly vocalizing in Soprano’s style during Rap sessions that they are the black OG’s of the future, this from their eagerly aping the media portrayed dress and mannerisms of American Maffiosi. (As if these self-styled ghetto godfathers who try so pathetically to imitate the noble Italians of the vendetta and omerta could ever rise above their level of the common street thug.) And who, as further proof of their being ignorant of the Caucasian racial background and our individual nationality, are quick to equate anyone of the Mediterranean extraction with being an Italian. From our earliest history we battle-scarred Sicilians have had to fight off invasions from the Phoenicians, their Carthaginian offshoots, the Hellenes, and even the Romans themselves, and so forth up to modern times. But this latest assault differs greatly in that it is an attempt at depriving us of our racial identity. And it is an affront that I and the very high majority of like-minded Italians everywhere will no longer tolerate. As should every Caucasian with a claim to their heritage feel so impelled. Sicilia flat out refuses those racist Italophiles who view her as a psychological beachhead from which to launch a miscegenation campaign from so-called black Africa to its white European counterpart. And she vehemently denounces those ignorant Italophobes who would label her sons and daughters as being anything other than legitimate, full-blooded members of the Caucasian race. The summation of my tirade here, ladies and gentlemen: We Italians are in fact Caucasians, like the majority of the other indigenous peoples of the Mediterranean. Always have been always will be. To the Whites who would deny it, accept it. To the Blacks who would say otherwise, get over it. Fuck you very much, Dario Rourke B.K.A. NAOS The Celtic Sicilian At this point I would again like to apologize to the webmaster at Racial Myths for my submitting a copy of my previous entry. For the sake of giving testimonial evidence to your most insightful and valid refutations of the Myths directed at Italians and all Caucasians alike, I felt it absolutely necessary to do just this very thing. | |
| DATE | Thursday, January 2nd 2003 - 04:49:38 PM | |
| Name | David | |
| hispanic_republican@yahoo.com | ||
| City/State/Country | U.S.A. | |
| Race/Ethnicity | Mediterranean | |
| Rate Site (0-5) | 5 | |
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Praise to you for a job well done! It is amazing how many ignorant white supremacists as well as historical revisionists choose to deny reality and force things to fit their own definitions. Just as the revisionists have made "Africa" synonymous with "Negroid," the PCs have made "Asian" synonymous with "Mongoloid." One suggestion I boldly offer is that you go into more detail and perhaps show pictures of Irano-Afghan and Indic Caucasoids such as Indian actress/model Aishwarya Rai (Miss World 1994) and Bipasha Basu. Their clearly Caucasian origins can be seen at
http://www.aishwarya-rai.com/closeups/cash19.jpg http://www.bollywoodheaven.com/picture_gal/actress_gal/Aishwarya_Rai/32.htm http://www.bollywoodheaven.com/picture_gal/actress_gal/Bipasha_Basu/15.shtml Keep up the good work! | |
| DATE | Monday, December 30th 2002 - 09:37:47 AM | |
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